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Is there enough capacity to introduce this as a high freq servive without pulling out of another market?
Wouldn't it be a stupid time to launch LCY-MAN though just as Virgin introduce their high frequency timetable, even if LHR frequncies are reduced.
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Just catching up here:
Great to see the A343 is going to grace MAN once again. Its been long missed since the withdrawal of JM/BW.
JAL I doubt will happen, as there just isnt the market to support MAN-TOK. There is sufficient feed through LHR/FRA/AMS/HEL etc, and if JAL did ever come to MAN, I would think it would be in the form of a Freighter (although in this economic climate it wont be anytime soon)
BA to LCY is great after they have pulled frequencies, but the main purpose of the LON shuttles is to feed, and there isnt really anything to feed at LCY as most LCY routes are also served from MAN, by the same carriers. But, in this climate I suppose we better take any new routes we can, with traffic on the decline this is no time to be fussy in my opinion.
Great to see the A343 is going to grace MAN once again. Its been long missed since the withdrawal of JM/BW.
JAL I doubt will happen, as there just isnt the market to support MAN-TOK. There is sufficient feed through LHR/FRA/AMS/HEL etc, and if JAL did ever come to MAN, I would think it would be in the form of a Freighter (although in this economic climate it wont be anytime soon)
BA to LCY is great after they have pulled frequencies, but the main purpose of the LON shuttles is to feed, and there isnt really anything to feed at LCY as most LCY routes are also served from MAN, by the same carriers. But, in this climate I suppose we better take any new routes we can, with traffic on the decline this is no time to be fussy in my opinion.
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If BACON do start MAN - LCY what are the chances of VLM retaining their current frequencies? Not good I would guess so the airport is once again likely to see no net benefit or net increase in pax as two airlines fight over the same passengers on a route... 
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It's NOT BACON, they flogged that off to flybe. I think they want to free LHR slots for more long haul so the London bound traffic will be encouraged to use LCY instead. I suspect LGW MAY be dropped.
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LCY will probably take some of the business travellers into the city instead of having to go out to LHR or LGW.
Also, people in the City who are BA frequent flyers who need to commute can do so easier. I know they may take the train but I am guessing they will be frequent flyer card holders and so will benefit more from taking the plane than the train.
Anyway, competition is always good for the customer so I won't be complaining and it will be nice to see the BA 146 back at MAN along with the A340!
Or does learjet50 have a problem with that...
Also, people in the City who are BA frequent flyers who need to commute can do so easier. I know they may take the train but I am guessing they will be frequent flyer card holders and so will benefit more from taking the plane than the train.
Anyway, competition is always good for the customer so I won't be complaining and it will be nice to see the BA 146 back at MAN along with the A340!
Or does learjet50 have a problem with that...
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MAN-LCY
Could be a ploy to lure all the business passengers
that once used the MAN-JFK flight onto their A319LR's
Oh hang on a mo it wasnt profitable was it - forget it.........
MM
Could be a ploy to lure all the business passengers
that once used the MAN-JFK flight onto their A319LR's
Oh hang on a mo it wasnt profitable was it - forget it.........
MM
He was being ironic FFS!
Pedant head on.....
The LCY-JFK is an A318.
...and yes, the MAN-LCY would appear to be a feeder for that.
They would have been better off routing the LCY-JFK through MAN instead of Shannon. (Yes I know it's to do with fuel stop and clearing customs etc).
Pedant head on.....
The LCY-JFK is an A318.
...and yes, the MAN-LCY would appear to be a feeder for that.
They would have been better off routing the LCY-JFK through MAN instead of Shannon. (Yes I know it's to do with fuel stop and clearing customs etc).
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Forget feeding LCY-JFK... a MAN-LCY route would resemble be more of a staff bus since it would allow those crew who live near MAN to get to work easily!!! Also with CityFlyer's office being in Didsbury, there will be plenty of staff on such a route - which will just bump up the pax figures further!!!
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...and yes, the MAN-LCY would appear to be a feeder for that.
The LCY-JFK service is targetted at Canary Wharf and the City, not I'm afraid to say, Manchester. I think it's fair to say Manchester and the North West business traveller wasn't uppermost in the minds of people when this idea was mooted.
Very pprune like that a route that isn't even on sale yet is being dismissed as a disaster!! Any increase in service to LCY from BA has in the case of both GLA and EDI meant a reduction in services to both LHR and LGW. This allows LHR slots to be used for more profitable long haul routes and for BA to downsize a lttle more at LGW. There's a long term goal being played out here.
They would have been better off routing the LCY-JFK through MAN instead of Shannon.
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Speaking as regular ANU SLF - I take it that with the total lack of ANU rumours - that the bmi on 24 April will be the last direct flight to ANU outside of LGW with VS showing no interest
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Echo
Any increase in service to LCY from BA has in the case of both GLA and EDI meant a reduction in services to...LHR...
Anyway. Earlier someone mentioned the British Airways JFK flight from MAN, for pure curiosity: was this flight in the full Long Haul config (business, premium and economy) and did they have the full service business with fully flat beds etc? Finally, how many pax all together? It was a 767-300ER, was it not?
Last edited by DAr19; 11th Dec 2008 at 14:00. Reason: adding a question
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No they wouldn't. MAN has holding and slot issues that Shannon doesn't, plus SNN is under the flight path most of the time. It's a no brainer....
However, SNN has something that no UK airport does - the US pre-clearance facility.
From the SNN website -
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (C.B.P.) facilities are available for immigration inspection of passengers travelling to the United States from Shannon Airport. The facility is located in the departures lounge.
Once a passenger has been inspected and admitted to the U.S., it will be necessary for security reasons, for them to remain in the sterile gate lounge area until boarding their aircraft.
Once a passenger has been inspected and admitted to the U.S., it will be necessary for security reasons, for them to remain in the sterile gate lounge area until boarding their aircraft.
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The only reason BACityFlyer would operate MAN-LCY is to compete with VLM since they are now part of CityJet. I think you are all reading a bit too much into any possible link between MAN-LCY and LCY-JFK.
There are a lot of obstacles that need to be overcome before we ever see a BA aircraft operate to JFK from LCY and there are a significant number of BA staff that do not expect to see the route start anyway!
BA have never marketed LCY as a transfer hub (despite it being a good alternative) and I am sure they would rather see you go through LHR even LGW.
If you look at the recent BA CityFlyer expansion and any new routes are either already operated by CityJet or in one case they are indirectly competing with Air France itself.
There are a lot of obstacles that need to be overcome before we ever see a BA aircraft operate to JFK from LCY and there are a significant number of BA staff that do not expect to see the route start anyway!
BA have never marketed LCY as a transfer hub (despite it being a good alternative) and I am sure they would rather see you go through LHR even LGW.
If you look at the recent BA CityFlyer expansion and any new routes are either already operated by CityJet or in one case they are indirectly competing with Air France itself.
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When were you last at Manchester Airport
You say it will be great to see an 340 at Manchester
What about the Air Mauritias/ BWI that use to operate via Manchester
and not to metion to Virgin Aircraft that were based heryou
Does your Mum still give you Dinner Money
Check you facts before you post Cxxp on the Forum
There i ve got it off my chest now
Should nt u be in bed by now it is 2300 LT (11 O Clock at Night to u)
You say it will be great to see an 340 at Manchester
What about the Air Mauritias/ BWI that use to operate via Manchester
and not to metion to Virgin Aircraft that were based heryou
Does your Mum still give you Dinner Money
Check you facts before you post Cxxp on the Forum
There i ve got it off my chest now
Should nt u be in bed by now it is 2300 LT (11 O Clock at Night to u)
(Ooops I'm not in bed yet either!)
Why on Earth would anyone fly from Manchester to London City to fly to Shannon then New York? Are you honestly thinking that this is the intention? To FEED an A318?
Sorry to have ruined your day Skipness.