FlyBe - 6

[Dash-7 lover]

Sounds like someone has more aircraft than they know what to do with. As this is a rumour forum any truth in the plans to abandon the 195's altogether in favour of the 400's as times are hard??

[macuser]

Flybe Jets

The prop Q400 is a remarkable bit of kit for Flybe. However, they still need the E195 jet profile on main routes to promote their image. I dare suggest the initial JE/BE/Flybe success was based around the 146 Jet.

[Skipness One Echo]

they still need the E195 jet profile on main routes to promote their image

....and on routes where it's the better aircraft and is needed more.

[macuser]

E195

Skip 1 E

Have you been on a 195? Longer than an A320, I read. Good experience. Q400 is fine until the last 20 feet vertical !!!

[cheesycol]

Dash7lover:

No truth to that one - as far as I understand a productive winter plan ahead.

[Otto Throttle]

Sounds like someone has more aircraft than they know what to do with. As this is a rumour forum any truth in the plans to abandon the 195's altogether in favour of the 400's as times are hard??

I don't know why you would say that. As things stand, it is planned that BE will have no grounded aircraft over the winter, unlike almost every other major UK airline. That sounds to me like they know exactly what they're doing with their aircraft.

As for the E195 rumour, not a chance. Passenger loads currently demand the use of the 195, and in terms of cost, it has proved to be as popular with the management as the passengers. It's here to stay for the forseeable future.

[FL370 Officeboy]

Dash 7 lover is a renowned BE basher from the one of the other airfields in Devon. He/she is probably just trying to stir it up. Bit childish really.

[Wycombe]

Sounds like someone has more aircraft than they know what to do with. As this is a rumour forum any truth in the plans to abandon the 195's altogether in favour of the 400's as times are hard??

Re. the Greek Q400 thing - sounds more to me like good business, finding a creative (and presumably profitable) use for what would otherwise have been spare aeroplanes and crews during a downturn.

At least on the basis of their PR machine, Flybe seem to be riding out the downturn pretty well, will be interesting to see what they have up their sleeves at LGW, SOU, EXT, BHX, MAN, EDI, INV, JER, CWL and others (LBA, NQY, MSE!) when the upturn starts to properly show itself.

[rouelan]

CDG SOU and CDG EXT

In a (usually) reliable source providing schedules, I noticed that BE were pulling out of these routes next winter. However, flights still open for sale.
Any info ?

[cornishsimon]

At least on the basis of their PR machine, Flybe seem to be riding out the downturn pretty well, will be interesting to see what they have up their sleeves at LGW, SOU, EXT, BHX, MAN, EDI, INV, JER, CWL and others (LBA, NQY, MSE!) when the upturn starts to properly show itself.

As far as NQY goes i wouldnt be surprised to see something happen here. If and when they do something here i would of thought it would be in direct competition with SZ, perhaps re-introduce the GLA, perhaps EDI running with a NQY based aircraft.

Also NQY are desperate to find an airline to operate into Europe, AMS, CDG and some year round German routes

[uncovered]

CDG SOU and EXT

Flybe are not pulling off these routes. EXT goes single daily for winter. SOU is unchanged.

[IOMspotter]

Just heard that IOM is losing a LPL rotation this winter Airlines pulling out of here like rats deserting the sinking ship. Last week Eastern this week VLM . Arran reduced LCY and now BE reducing LPL

[FS01]

IOMspotter where have you been hearing this? The only possible cut to LPL would be the BE603 on off peak days Tues Wed Thurs. The same happened last winter when LPL was between 3 and 4 flights a day. With the DHSS contract however it seems unlikely this would happen. All the booking systems still show 4 a day

[Haven't a clue]

IOMspotter

Arran reduced LCY

I'm aware of the failure to fly the midday rotation on some weekdays during the summer - no problem for me and colleagues as the money went to BE - but are you saying that these reductions continue through the autumn/winter? If so their committment to the route must be in question.

[OltonPete]

BHX

I checked BHX's winter schedule a few weeks ago and then tonight
and there have been considerable upgrades.

There seems to be 3 based 195's scheduled at times, BHD is increased
back to 6 a day Tu-Th.

Frankfurt was downgraded to double daily but is back at three daily
in the week.

The mid afternoon Q400 from EDI is now showing as a 195. The 15.05
departure to EDI which was a Q400 is now a 195.

Paris goes back to four daily Thu & Fr

Other small increases such as additional GLA & ABZ's added on a
Tuesday as well of course of the double daily IOM M-F.

Having said that, as the IOM changes to an away based aircraft
and the first out BHD operates then to MXP as a 195 there are
two less aircraft based compared to last winter but still a very neat
and busy looking schedule considering the West Mids has the highest unemployment level in the UK.

Pete

[Cloud1]

Understand that possibly 2 Embraer 195s may be off to Pantheon / Olympic over the winter.

Any news on the Scatsta contact with the Q400s? I know on the Eastern Airways thread they are adament they retain the contract however I have not found anything to support this. I guess BE do not need this contract now but it would be a nice addition and allow them to free up a number of Q400s....

[Dash-7 lover]

FL370 Officeboy.

Terribly sorry to upset the apples. Your assumptions are partly correct but just passing on stuff I've heard from the flying troops hence this forum. Must be hard now the BA cash has dried up? Still got mine - thanks chaps.


Anyway moving on....

[FL370 Officeboy]

Dash-7 Lover,

I'm not getting involved in a battle of wits with you, as I see you are unarmed.

Basically, your posts are generally wrong as are your general assertions.

Cloud1,

I have heard that the E195 deal isn't going to happen. Olympic are allegedly plomping for Airbus. I would be happy to be corrected but that is my understanding.

Cheers.

[Han 1st Solo]

Flybe definately not got the Scatsta contract, or thats what the email from Ian Baston says which is pinned on the flight crew notice board in the crew room in MAN, says something like they didn't want to change the contractor or words to that effect so to my mind that in itself implies Eastern have retained the contract.

Han.

[OltonPete]

G-JECV

Now in Olympic colours but operated BHX- Stuttgart today per another site

Is this aircraft leaving for good, as wasn't "CV" and "CW" the ones offered
for sale?

Another brand new Q400 was delivered to BHX today (G-PTHB), which was for flybe but now going direct to Olympic (painting first) -

Never a dull day with flybe.

Is CW still going as well and if so when?

Pete