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A numbers of 'connections' options have disappeared from the booking engine today. IOM-SOU via MAN is another.
It would seem that the basic timetable is still being reconfigured so connections not available until the new component flights are in the system.
It would seem that the basic timetable is still being reconfigured so connections not available until the new component flights are in the system.
EMB-170 G-FBJJ registered yesterday
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Any good news or rumours about reducing the number of redundancies?
The head line of 60+ routes not covering their costs led most to think things were really bad. But, 4 of the route cuts announced actually meant only 2 rotations per day being dropped between all 4 (GLA-CDG, CWL-CDG,BHD-CDG,BHX-CDG), also many of the routes were summer only or once per week, so not as bad as expected. 10 year round route were dropped on 4th Dec with 14 summer only ones, then a couple of routes transferred to Loganair. The Newquay routes were saved. Some route frequencies were increased. Inverness only lost the Gatwick flight and Aberdeen seem untouched although Cardiff is almost wiped off the Flybe map.Yes there were 6 Gatwick routes dropped and one Q400 removed from Glasgow, Edinburgh and Southampton. If there are 9 planes being withdrawn wouldn't the pilot redundancies be more like 90?
Will there still be 179 pilots plus 320 other staff laid off or is there some good news?
bb
The head line of 60+ routes not covering their costs led most to think things were really bad. But, 4 of the route cuts announced actually meant only 2 rotations per day being dropped between all 4 (GLA-CDG, CWL-CDG,BHD-CDG,BHX-CDG), also many of the routes were summer only or once per week, so not as bad as expected. 10 year round route were dropped on 4th Dec with 14 summer only ones, then a couple of routes transferred to Loganair. The Newquay routes were saved. Some route frequencies were increased. Inverness only lost the Gatwick flight and Aberdeen seem untouched although Cardiff is almost wiped off the Flybe map.Yes there were 6 Gatwick routes dropped and one Q400 removed from Glasgow, Edinburgh and Southampton. If there are 9 planes being withdrawn wouldn't the pilot redundancies be more like 90?
Will there still be 179 pilots plus 320 other staff laid off or is there some good news?
bb
bb - have a read of the presentation the CEO made in November and some of the comments on this thread at the time. One of the points made clearly was a desire to increase the number of hours each pilot flies per year.
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Understandable and I don't blame you but the answers are in the revised timetable or I should say part of the answers and of course you are spot-on.
I joted some schedules from a June day (which i have mislaid) - I think it was a Monday and it was eye-watering with just five or six operational 195's and two of those are in conjunction with Air France.
BHX-CDG
MAN-CDG
EXT-Spain
SOU-Spain x 2 (or three)
No jets based in EDI, GLA or BHD when I looked. I realise this isn't probably the final timetable but this was only from earlier this week.
175's
3 x BHX
3 x MAN
1 x ABZ (MAN service)
Considering the 10th 175 is about to arrive are we looking at a postion that the 175's are gouing to be parked?
I think I made it about 46 aircraft from 65 (counting FBJJ but not the SN leases). Give or take a few errors and maybe some upgrades to jets on a few routes if the other 175's arrive, there seems little comfort in these figures.
Pete
Understandable and I don't blame you but the answers are in the revised timetable or I should say part of the answers and of course you are spot-on.
I joted some schedules from a June day (which i have mislaid) - I think it was a Monday and it was eye-watering with just five or six operational 195's and two of those are in conjunction with Air France.
BHX-CDG
MAN-CDG
EXT-Spain
SOU-Spain x 2 (or three)
No jets based in EDI, GLA or BHD when I looked. I realise this isn't probably the final timetable but this was only from earlier this week.
175's
3 x BHX
3 x MAN
1 x ABZ (MAN service)
Considering the 10th 175 is about to arrive are we looking at a postion that the 175's are gouing to be parked?
I think I made it about 46 aircraft from 65 (counting FBJJ but not the SN leases). Give or take a few errors and maybe some upgrades to jets on a few routes if the other 175's arrive, there seems little comfort in these figures.
Pete
Flybe website says
so 71 in total
If the cut is 19 planes, will than mean more routes being dropped than currently announced? Will there be cuts at Aberdeen or Inverness? Will Inverness still have a jet on the Manchester?
Surely there must be some news of reduced redundancies due to the extra and saved flights, or resignations to go to other airlines?
bb
We currently operate a fleet of 57 Bombardier Q400 turboprop aircraft and 14 Embraer 195 jets with an average age of under three years, making it one of the youngest and most fuel efficient in the world.
If the cut is 19 planes, will than mean more routes being dropped than currently announced? Will there be cuts at Aberdeen or Inverness? Will Inverness still have a jet on the Manchester?
Surely there must be some news of reduced redundancies due to the extra and saved flights, or resignations to go to other airlines?
bb
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The fleet is actually currently...
45x Q400s
10x E175s (1 further due, G-FBJK)
14x E195s
69x aircraft, +1 by next summer... Although I see there's a few Q400s still in the fleet that are now 10 years old so maybe some of these will naturally be leaving the fleet soon?
2 aircraft will return from Brussels Airlines end of March, so only two will be leased out. So that's 68 aircraft that need to be accounted for... I was under the impression it's the E195s being grounded and not the E175s but I have no evidence for this.
It's still possible 1x E195 will go to Aurigny, since they've yet to announce the source of their future fleet addition.
Either way a large portion of the fleet will be grounded come April...
45x Q400s
10x E175s (1 further due, G-FBJK)
14x E195s
69x aircraft, +1 by next summer... Although I see there's a few Q400s still in the fleet that are now 10 years old so maybe some of these will naturally be leaving the fleet soon?
2 aircraft will return from Brussels Airlines end of March, so only two will be leased out. So that's 68 aircraft that need to be accounted for... I was under the impression it's the E195s being grounded and not the E175s but I have no evidence for this.
It's still possible 1x E195 will go to Aurigny, since they've yet to announce the source of their future fleet addition.
Either way a large portion of the fleet will be grounded come April...
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bb, the Flybe website is a couple of years out of date. Right now we have in Flybe flying the network:
14 x E195
45 x Q400 (4 x BEL)
9 x E175
We've had the latest pilot bid document issued which details the fleet disposition and it's not far away from what oltonpete has stated. Everything is of course subject to change and we've already seen a couple of changes in the last two weeks.
14 x E195
45 x Q400 (4 x BEL)
9 x E175
We've had the latest pilot bid document issued which details the fleet disposition and it's not far away from what oltonpete has stated. Everything is of course subject to change and we've already seen a couple of changes in the last two weeks.
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Flybe Fleet Changes 2014
Here are the Fleet Changes for Flybe for 2014.
Bombardier Dash-8-Q400:
G-JEDP to be WFU 20th January 2014
G-JEDR to be WFU 27th January 2014
G-JEDT to be WFU 5th February 2014
G-JEDU to be WFU 8th March 2014
G-JEDV to be WFU 10th April 2014
Embraer E-175
G-FBJK due Shortly.
Embraer E-195
G-FBEA to be WFU 9th August 2014
G-FBEB to be WFU 30th November 2014
Source: Flybe Fleet List
Bombardier Dash-8-Q400:
G-JEDP to be WFU 20th January 2014
G-JEDR to be WFU 27th January 2014
G-JEDT to be WFU 5th February 2014
G-JEDU to be WFU 8th March 2014
G-JEDV to be WFU 10th April 2014
Embraer E-175
G-FBJK due Shortly.
Embraer E-195
G-FBEA to be WFU 9th August 2014
G-FBEB to be WFU 30th November 2014
Source: Flybe Fleet List
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Was due to fly out of WAT-BHX on Wednesday. Inbound flight diverted to DUB due to weather, all pax bussed 5 hours to BHD to catch the evening flight. Horrendous day, I believe the same happened on the Monday and Friday flight too this week. One poor guy had been diverted to DUB on the way in and out of BHD on the way back!
Why they couldn't send us to DUB to catch the original aircraft back, or even book us with another airline ex-DUB I have no idea.
Why they couldn't send us to DUB to catch the original aircraft back, or even book us with another airline ex-DUB I have no idea.
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I understand why bussing you to DUB to get on the diverted aircraft would be the a better option for you (and the other WAT-BHX pax), however, the diverted aircraft was almost certainly needed back in BHX ASAP to avoid delaying many more pax on the other routes the aircraft was due to fly that day. It's a choice between inconveniencing the passengers on one flight or inconveniencing the passengers on five flights later in the day. From a commercial stand point, I think the right decision was taken.
Also, I think you may find that the WAT-BHX sector is the crew's 4th sector of the day from an early start, so delaying them on the ground at DUB for a few hours to wait for pax to be bussed from WAT may well have caused issues with their duty hours.
These things are rarely as simple or straight forward as they appear.
Also, I think you may find that the WAT-BHX sector is the crew's 4th sector of the day from an early start, so delaying them on the ground at DUB for a few hours to wait for pax to be bussed from WAT may well have caused issues with their duty hours.
These things are rarely as simple or straight forward as they appear.
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Now that Schroders are reducing their stake holding, is this a vote of no confidence in the turnaround plan?
Schroders plc : Schroders cuts stake in FlyBe | 4-Traders
Schroders plc : Schroders cuts stake in FlyBe | 4-Traders
FLYB:London Stock Chart - Flybe Group PLC - Bloomberg
Last date with a significantly higher than normal turnover in shares was early-mid November - presumably around the time when the new strategic plan was announced.
Last date with a significantly higher than normal turnover in shares was early-mid November - presumably around the time when the new strategic plan was announced.
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If Flybe didn’t exist you would have to invent it, says chief executive Saad Hammad
I expect most interested people will have seen this, but if not:
If Flybe didn?t exist you would have to invent it, says chief executive Saad Hammad - Telegraph
If Flybe didn?t exist you would have to invent it, says chief executive Saad Hammad - Telegraph
Move along, nothing to see here...
BBC News - Aircraft landing 'near-miss' over Runcorn Bridge
Sounds like a couple of pilots in full control with perfectly acceptable SA being told off by a nervous system?
Sounds like a couple of pilots in full control with perfectly acceptable SA being told off by a nervous system?
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