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Old 19th Feb 2013, 09:36
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Judging by the Met information ,on the web this morning, so far that decision by BAA was ill founded and not needed as visibility has remained acceptable. Making decisions like this so far ahead based on a weather forecast are likely to bite your bum.
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 13:57
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Teevee bit lost on the point you are making ?

But moving on

With only 4 flights a day cancelling just one flight is a major inconvenience , at least at Manchester if you cancelled 20% or what ever the figure you would still only have to wait a maximum of a couple of hours to next service.

As a fledgling service I just thought LBA deserved a bit more attention !
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 19:38
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Just that at 638 LBA is a 'bit' higher than most other UK airports! So Man might well have been able to get flights out, while the top of the LBA 'hill' would be shrouded in thick fog! I've been in Bramhope (from where you usually get a really good view of the LBA approach) less than 2 miles from LBA in clear weather and not been able to distinguish ANYTHING where the aiport should have been! On the other hand this doesn't seem to have been a factor in this case. Though if real weather wasn't the problem, only predicted weather, it does make you wonder what the 'other'factors were in the planning? Maybe, in the grand scheme of things, those cancellations didn't really matter much? Which would, in turn, make me wonder about (a) the profitability, and (b) the future of the route.

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Old 19th Feb 2013, 19:49
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Flight was cancelled early yesterday evening based on a prediction for Heathrow this morning - nothing to do whatsoever with the height of Leeds Bradford!!
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Old 19th Feb 2013, 23:13
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Rumour has it LBA will have a second long haul service announced soon. The route should start in April 2014.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 07:37
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Jet2 to Sanford you mean?
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 07:45
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You are a tease LBIA!

As this is a rumour network I think you ought to share your rumour with us don't you?
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 08:25
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Yep pwalhx guess you've heard the same? Rumour has it that Jet2 may have picked up 2x Boeing 767-300ER's and are looking to start Orlando Sanford routes from Leeeds, Manchester and East Midlands next summer. Wither its true or not this time is anyone's guess i suppose.

Shaheen Air have been seen around several UK airports now they have those Airbus A330's. I wonder if they might return to Leeds after there last attempt?

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Old 20th Feb 2013, 09:00
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Quote: "SK4
Great reply Frank regarding 'SK4'."

Thank you, canberra97.

Quote: "This really is thread drift and nothing to do with Leeds, however to be correct some parts of Stockport MBC and the Post Coded areas are extremley close to Manchester Airport (Heald Green for example)."

Not really rocket science is it? If refering to "Heald Green", then say "Heald Green", then even people from out of the area would understand. It is a matter of basic geography: use proper place names not silly post code prefixes.

BTW, pwalhx, it isn't thread drift, just an attempt at clarification, as the poster was talking about accessibiity of other airports from an area near Ringway. My question was legitimate.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 13:03
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Teevee

BA canx 30 flights of Tuesday morning's first wave including a MAN NCL ABZ FRA BCN MAD LBA and many many others.

You are talking nonsense trying to link a single canx with the viability of the route itself.

LHR had forecast vis of 50m and the flying programme was pruned accordingly.

End of story.

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Old 20th Feb 2013, 14:45
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Forecast viz at LHR might have turned out wrong but it was very patchy yesterday morning. Not the sort of hill fog/clag that gets LBA but stuff in pockets and moving around.

Lunchtime commuter group bike ride in London yesterday. Several stories of going from clear to thick fog over short distances. Observations from train between MK & London suggested fog pockets were widespread in Thames Valley and surrounding counties.
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 16:24
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LBIA and pwalhx - I see J2 launched the New York Xmas shopping trips this afternoon - does that count as the 2nd long haul destination??
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Old 20th Feb 2013, 18:03
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No they are shopping trips and have been done before, I thought otherwise I had answered that question.
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Old 21st Feb 2013, 09:43
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My impression is that of all weather types fog is the most difficult to forecast accurately. Just going back to the factors between LBA and MAN, suppose you need to go to somewhere like Denver for business where the options are from LBA via Schiphol or Heathrow or from MAN via Newark or Chicago. I think if the trip is Nov to Feb the possible weather at LBA is a factor. The question in your head is--which routeing am I least likely to get stuck somewhere? The reasoning for a trip in May might well be different.
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Old 21st Feb 2013, 10:25
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And you may also consider the possible effects of M62 fog, roadworks, etc.
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Old 21st Feb 2013, 12:50
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British Airways seem to be using the A320's instead of the A319's on the LHR-LBA shuttles. Its it because they are carrying extra pax due to all the problems on trains with and delays continuing on the East Coast Mainline?

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Old 21st Feb 2013, 13:05
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The recent trouble on ECML (de wiring at St Neots) lasted for around 24 hours. I'd doubt either passengers or the airline could have re-mustered themselves in any number over that short period. ECML does have a general reputation for unreliabilty though.

So hopefully the bigger machine is down to a rising load factor as the service gets better established.

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Old 21st Feb 2013, 17:14
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A320s on LHR-LBA

Also hope it's because of rising loads, but could be linked to 3x/day frequencies from the end of next month instead of 4x/day?
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 15:34
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The A320 appears to be a temporary replacement for the usual A319. I flew back to London on BA1345 last Sunday on the A320, the load was better than the three previous times I had used that flight, in that we had a total of 30 passengers, my lowest was 9. I don't think there is any risk of the capacity of the A319 being exceeded for some time yet, even on the busier flights
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Old 22nd Feb 2013, 15:41
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Ba capacity Lba Lhr

Ba Dub Lhr is down to A319 on a regular ASIs and 9 would be a decent head count !!!! Maye some of A320 are being switched to Lba given 30 on a flight , more galley space ?
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