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Old 12th Dec 2009, 16:23
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My guess would be the Ryanair was a Santa flight as it was an hour long?.

Can't help with Lasham flights.

Anything of interest amongst last nights diversions into LBA?
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Old 12th Dec 2009, 16:54
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Lasham is probably a duplicate of the same flight. 757 going to Lasham for servicing
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 21:30
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Snow

I see there has been a couple of diversions from LBA due to the weather,and the cancellation of the departing flights as a result.

The snow hasn't been that bad tonight.How come some aircraft manage to get in and others don't?.Is it like fog,to do with visability?.Just interested to know,if anybody can shed any light on this?.

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Old 21st Dec 2009, 23:32
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Some Ryanair changes coming through:

New 3 x weekly Leeds-Pisa service using Pisa-based aircraft
Faro flights now to be operated by Faro-based aircraft
Evening Dublin now to be operated by Dublin-based aircraft
Sunday Malaga chopped

All of these look to be on sale via the Ryanair website but unless I've missed something, there has been no announcement about Leeds-Pisa. Another Jet2 route, of course.

Thomas Cook has also added a second weekly Antalya flight - there is a new one on Thursdays for most dates through the summer season about to appear on top of the existing Tuesday flight.
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 14:29
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I'm sure Pisa was announced when the base was announced because I remember Jet 2 intially withdrew the Pisa flights they had on sale for Summer 2010 (were to be 5xWeek), before restoring a single Saturday flight later
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 15:57
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Flightrider...

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You're behind the times on Pisa - been on sale for a while. Where are you seeing the Faro flights - still on sale at 0755 on the Ryanair site. Am I missing something??
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 20:21
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Flightrider

And there never was an FR Sunday Malaga. It was 6 days a week Mon-Sat.
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 20:34
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I'd missed the point on Pisa - apologies.

Faro is going onto an evening schedule days 1/3/7 (1950 ex Leeds) and 1655 departure on Fridays using the FAO-based aircraft.

There was a Sunday AGP in the initial Ryanair schedule plan for Leeds - first aircraft was doing DUB/CCF/AGP/DUB and second one MJV/LIG/PMI with the Faro sitting outside the two based aircraft plan, for reasons which have now become apparent.
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 20:41
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Still nothing on the FR website ref Faro. That's a nasty change Flightider if your sources are correct!
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 22:43
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Malaga was definately daily when the flights were announced, which I guess Ryanair have seen was a bit ambitious with Jet2 sending a 757 and a 737 to Malaga most days already.

Moving Faro from a 07.55 departure to 19.50 is not a good move! Anyone who is already booked on the flights will be in for a bit of a shock, especially when you compare the flight times with Jet2's Faro flights. Saying that a lot of Yorkshire folk will fly anytime for a tenner, Ryanair's Alicante flight from Leeds has proved that! Having a deaprture at 07.55 did seem a bit strange for Ryanair, it's a bit of an odd ball as virtually all the other Ryanair deaprtures are around 06.15 ex Leeds. Morning departure still showing on the website.

With these changes to the Ryanair schedule are we seeing more routes? Or maybe just a bit of slack in the schedule as it was quite ambitious having 8 sectors most days in the height of summer to places like ALC, PMI and AGP!

With regard to the additional Thomas Cook Antalya, it's in place of the Arrecife flight, with Thomas Cook taking an allocation on the Jet2 scheduled service. No real gain, but still Thomas Cook will be taking a larger volume of passengers through Leeds Bradford. Time for a second A320 next year!!
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Old 23rd Dec 2009, 17:16
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Tcx A320

There has been talk for a while for two based units to operate the Thomas Cook programme. First of all when Astreaus operated the flights on their behalf and then most certainly over the past two years when using TCX planes. This has some what changed though of late due to taking more seats on board Jet2 ac. However I do believe that it must soon be time for a second based TCX unit.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 20:12
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Snow

It seems the weather is causing a few delays/diversions tonight.

I notice that 2 Jet2 flights went to Doncaster,and one went to Manchester.

Can anybody tell me how it is decided which airport airlines divert to?.I presume they have a designated alternate airport,but if so why did Jet2 go to two different airports tonight?.Just curious.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 20:55
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Have no idea really but suspect in this case it might have been an airport staffing issue. At the time they were due in DSA isn't exactly a hive of activity (only Wizz from Warsaw at 19.00! until much later!) so another couple of 737's plus a 757 might have thrown a bit of a spanner in the works. Plus at the time there was the possibility that DSA might close too. Apparently Wizz was a couple of minutes into an LPL divert when MAN ATC informed him that DSA was cleared for landings ... so he turned around and came back! My heart goes out to the pax on the Ryanair flight diverted from LBA to LPL though. Diverting that far on the other side of the Pennines on a night like this must make getting home a bloody nightmare.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 21:02
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I got in........................ Just

Think I was the last one though.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 21:12
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It appears most of the diverted flights have now got into LBA.The PIA,2 Jet2,and the Ryanair.

Do airlines normally do this where they can,rather than having the hassle of bussing pax to and from wherever?.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 21:26
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All cases would be looked at on an individual basis by the company operations department, but ultimately, the a/c and pax need to get to the same destination, so if it is only a matter of diverting and waiting an hour or so, then they could divert, keep the pax on board and wait for the runway at primary destination to re-open and then re-launch.
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 22:07
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Well done to all concerned tonight the only flight lost was the Jet2 Tenerife, possibly a crewing hours problem. All other diverted flights came back into LBA when the snow clearing was complete.
The staff at LBA deserve a pat on the back keeping the place open with all the snow we've had recently.
I have to say I was surprised the Ryanair came back from Liverpool. I wish they had done that for me when the inbound was diverted rather than leaving me and the family stranded and offering me a flight two days later. Lets hope this is the start of some customer service from them. Well done Ryanair PIA and Jet 2!
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Old 2nd Jan 2010, 23:06
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Lbalad. In answer to your question about diverts, J2 will usually go to DSA if its a fuel & go or MAN if it is a tech snag (as there are engineers available to fix it.) Crew hours will be tighter on a Canaries flight so the sensible plan is to use an engineering base so that an engineer is available to conduct a daily check if a night stop occurs. I believe the opportunity was taken to leave the TFS aircraft at MAN to provide cover for the ETOPS charter going out from MAN tomorrow.
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Unhappy

While the staff do indeed need a hearty pat on the back, once again the management need a good kicking. Our passengers had to deplane on a remote stand onto uncleared snow covered steps and walk - yes, walk over 100yds to the terminal when there was a serviceable airbridge and a serviceable bus available.

Once again, their parochial, insular attitude resulted in 180 unhappy campers.

Thankfully, nobody slipped and got hurt.

Very poor indeed
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Old 3rd Jan 2010, 10:51
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Would be interested to know what time "your" passengers arrived.
There is a balance to be struck - get the runway open and the aircraft can land however taxiways & stands will not yet be fully cleared. This was the course taken last night. Alternatively remain shut for another hour whilst you remove all traces of snow, potentially see further diverts and those that have diverted night stop away with all the associated disruption to passengers that entails. Neither option is ideal - whichever one is followed someone will say your wrong - and safety must be the priority always. As for snow covered steps - that one is down to the handling agents not the airport management.
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