Chaos at Terminal 5
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Mr Walsh
Vanderlande of Holland installed the baggage system .Now i am understood to beleive that the system is only as good as the operater.E.G. Checkin scan bag ( someone looks at x-ray and presses accept/reject) .Surley this is BAA security problem , However i beleive it is the problem of dealing / unloading the amount of bags into the fully containerised baggage hall.
Mr Walsh i loads of experience of this and i bet you aint even been down to the Baggage area.
Suggest you go and look at schipol etc ..
Mr Walsh i loads of experience of this and i bet you aint even been down to the Baggage area.
Suggest you go and look at schipol etc ..
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Originally Posted by rubik101
In light of the news that some Gulf State airlines are to open bases in LHR
In the past, the global hubs for long-haul centred on the East coast of the USA, Europe, LHR, CDG, FRA, Asia and the Pacific rim. With the advent of the super long-range aircraft and the A380, the European hubs will be by-passed. Why stop over in LHR when you can either go direct or fly one-stop via the Gulf of Arabia? LHR will become a destination and not a transit stop, with good reason.
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Judgement Day
So Willy only expects to be judged after a year of operation of T5. Well that's all right then, a fair chance that things could be OK by then with or without his "help"! Not sure the customers/shareholders will be quite so forebearing?
Of course once things are bedded down the next objective of Willy and Deadwood will be to "maintain performance with a smaller head count",showing the door to some of the recent "volonteers "no doubt, rewarding themselves with yet another "performance"bonus?
Still, that's modern "management" for you!! Make a quick buck, with luck move on before the s..t hits the fan but if the worst comes to the worst take a hefty pay out and move on to create havoc elsewhere.
Willy and Deadwood are really men of their time, so "Sub Prime".
Of course once things are bedded down the next objective of Willy and Deadwood will be to "maintain performance with a smaller head count",showing the door to some of the recent "volonteers "no doubt, rewarding themselves with yet another "performance"bonus?
Still, that's modern "management" for you!! Make a quick buck, with luck move on before the s..t hits the fan but if the worst comes to the worst take a hefty pay out and move on to create havoc elsewhere.
Willy and Deadwood are really men of their time, so "Sub Prime".
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So, let's be clear about this. My local hospital opens a new maternity unit and even without the ability to do dummy runs, manages to deliver all the babies, [...]
The difference is that the hospital understands what all the players want, including the mums to be and the dads to be.
The difference is that the hospital understands what all the players want, including the mums to be and the dads to be.
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Damn right you are!
We're sorry
We are extremely sorry for the disruption our customers flying from Terminal 5 have experienced since the building opened on Thursday 27 March.
We accept the level of service we have provided has not been good enough. We are working hard to overcome the initial operational difficulties we have encountered.
We are extremely sorry for the disruption our customers flying from Terminal 5 have experienced since the building opened on Thursday 27 March.
We accept the level of service we have provided has not been good enough. We are working hard to overcome the initial operational difficulties we have encountered.
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Vast majority?
The following taken straight from the pathetic apology site on BA.con
Flight information, Monday 31 March 2008 – Wednesday 2 April 2008
We are operating the vast majority of flights to and from Heathrow Terminal 5 and we continue to work towards increasing the number of services planned to operate in the days ahead.
Tuesday 1 April, 342 out of 392 flights to and from Terminal 5 will operate.
Wednesday 2 April we plan to operate 342 out of 392 flights to and from Terminal 5.
Since when can cancelling 50 of your plan of just short of 400 be the vast majority? To knock out 13% of your plan cannot be stated as being close to operating the vast majority.. You cannot delude the public by going into denial of the truth.
50 flights will mean at least 10,000 passengers who will not be travelling as planned.
Oh that 'we're sorry' over the top of the BA.com picture of T5 is just classic!! Whoever thought that up at BA is going places, what a bunch of plebs.
We're sorry for you too!
Flight information, Monday 31 March 2008 – Wednesday 2 April 2008
We are operating the vast majority of flights to and from Heathrow Terminal 5 and we continue to work towards increasing the number of services planned to operate in the days ahead.
Tuesday 1 April, 342 out of 392 flights to and from Terminal 5 will operate.
Wednesday 2 April we plan to operate 342 out of 392 flights to and from Terminal 5.
Since when can cancelling 50 of your plan of just short of 400 be the vast majority? To knock out 13% of your plan cannot be stated as being close to operating the vast majority.. You cannot delude the public by going into denial of the truth.
50 flights will mean at least 10,000 passengers who will not be travelling as planned.
Oh that 'we're sorry' over the top of the BA.com picture of T5 is just classic!! Whoever thought that up at BA is going places, what a bunch of plebs.
We're sorry for you too!
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As a Brit living in Hong Kong I am ashamed of what I have been seeing in the press, all be it the typical Brit mentality of bashing anything we do, however in this case, they have exposed what a hash was made of the move.
I never recall the move from Kai Tak to Chep Lap Kok being such a bun fight, why can it be done here and not in the UK. I can only guess its down to management or more appropriately mis-management.
Sadly I am not surprised that the "lowest common denominator" style of management so frequently seen in British Business, has produced such a huge mess up, on what should have been a proud moment in British and Global transport history. A golden opportunity to shine lost.
I never recall the move from Kai Tak to Chep Lap Kok being such a bun fight, why can it be done here and not in the UK. I can only guess its down to management or more appropriately mis-management.
Sadly I am not surprised that the "lowest common denominator" style of management so frequently seen in British Business, has produced such a huge mess up, on what should have been a proud moment in British and Global transport history. A golden opportunity to shine lost.
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It'll take you 17 hrs 40 to get from JFK to BOM on Emirates with just two departures per day. To fly that route on BA will take you between 17 hrs and 20hrs depending on which of BA's 7 JFK departures you choose to leave on. That looks pretty competitive to me.
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To spend 3 bln GBP (I think it is?) to build a shelter that load and un load people from some aircraft is in itself quite fascinating.
To fail to include a decent migration plan and implementation within that amount could hardly be attributed to anything else than lack of insight?
To fail to include a decent migration plan and implementation within that amount could hardly be attributed to anything else than lack of insight?
KC,
Yes true but, HKG airport moved 30 miles with all equipment and all flights not just a new terminal.
A better HKG comparison is the opening of T2 there. In SIN the opening of T2 there.
How do they rate.
Yes true but, HKG airport moved 30 miles with all equipment and all flights not just a new terminal.
A better HKG comparison is the opening of T2 there. In SIN the opening of T2 there.
How do they rate.
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Give it a rest.
I'm amazed at the apparent pleasure you are taking from the problems BA are experiencing.
If you really hate BA that much, go and work somewhere else.
Also, I would say 87 per cent is the 'vast majority'. BA cancels more flights on a windy or foggy day at Heathrow.
Give it a rest.
I'm amazed at the apparent pleasure you are taking from the problems BA are experiencing.
If you really hate BA that much, go and work somewhere else.
Also, I would say 87 per cent is the 'vast majority'. BA cancels more flights on a windy or foggy day at Heathrow.
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Handbags are drawn
Get you Mr Thistle, maybe reference your prickly response. Please be a little more specific. Oh, sorry to say i & you will probably both be searching for a job after the dust settles on this one.
No i do not take pleasure, its a sad day for BA and all its employees.
Have checked it out on YAHOO questions, the general body of opinion is that the VAST Majority would be anything approachig the total. The concensus was 98%.
No i do not take pleasure, its a sad day for BA and all its employees.
Have checked it out on YAHOO questions, the general body of opinion is that the VAST Majority would be anything approachig the total. The concensus was 98%.
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Waterwallower alert
Just read all 3 of partickthistlenils posts, all positive for BA and just 3 posts since joining in 1999. Nothing, not even a glimmer of disgust. The heavey smell of a waterwallower exudes from this poster.
Have BA taken out a whole load of IDs on here so they can chat to themselves? It certainly looks like it.
Look instead of hassling me about my postings, which I think are fair critcism, indeed they are very much in line with papers and news broadcasting, and colleagues, why don't you go and start moving some of those 28,000 bags around.
Have BA taken out a whole load of IDs on here so they can chat to themselves? It certainly looks like it.
Look instead of hassling me about my postings, which I think are fair critcism, indeed they are very much in line with papers and news broadcasting, and colleagues, why don't you go and start moving some of those 28,000 bags around.
Breaking News; Emirates to buy Heathrow
Reuters has just broken the news, from a Dubai Government source, that Ferrovial is seriously considering a bid from Emirates for Heathrow, as a stand-alone business.
This has been put together over the last 4 days by the airline's bankers, and is guaranteed by the Dubai Government.
The very well-kept secret is the source of rumours about "Gulf airlines seeking to set up hubs at Heathrow".
Emirates, in effect the Government of Dubai, plans to take over T5 for itself, possibly buying BA at market value to secure its slots and traffic rights.
The multi-billion dollar plan has, according to Reuters who are citing off-the-record interviews with Dubai and British Government sources, as well as the financial industry, an 80% chance of success.
Emirates is reported to have set a deadline to complete negotiations of 3oth June 2008. A senior Emirates executive is quoted as saying privately "there's no reason for delay, and the sooner we get in there to sort it out the quicker and less expensive it will be to do that. We will do a better job than the Irish and Spanish have done, in sha'Allah, but that's not very difficult."
This has been put together over the last 4 days by the airline's bankers, and is guaranteed by the Dubai Government.
The very well-kept secret is the source of rumours about "Gulf airlines seeking to set up hubs at Heathrow".
Emirates, in effect the Government of Dubai, plans to take over T5 for itself, possibly buying BA at market value to secure its slots and traffic rights.
The multi-billion dollar plan has, according to Reuters who are citing off-the-record interviews with Dubai and British Government sources, as well as the financial industry, an 80% chance of success.
Emirates is reported to have set a deadline to complete negotiations of 3oth June 2008. A senior Emirates executive is quoted as saying privately "there's no reason for delay, and the sooner we get in there to sort it out the quicker and less expensive it will be to do that. We will do a better job than the Irish and Spanish have done, in sha'Allah, but that's not very difficult."