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Topslide6, if you have checked previous postings then I think you will see that I've normally been well ahead on matters relating to bmi. Strong hints of MME/LBA being chopped, A330s moving to Heathrow for Cairo and Tel Aviv all appeared here from me before they happened. You might not like what I've got to say, but it is very redolent of this country at large that you try to silence someone just because you don't like their message.
I stick by what I've said and if bmi management won't tell people where they really stand - i.e. whether their employer has a future or not - that's to their detriment and not mine.
I stick by what I've said and if bmi management won't tell people where they really stand - i.e. whether their employer has a future or not - that's to their detriment and not mine.
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To quote NT in his last employee newsletter:
"The after tax loss for the year was £99.7m, which compares with a modest post tax profit of £7m for the prior year."
"Fuel cost us significantly more year on year despite our hedging policy and BAA continued blindly to apply double digit percentage increases at Heathrow aided by poor regulation by the CAA. The fuel increase was mitigated somewhat by surcharges as well as a rise of additional revenue in bmibaby, but still cost us an extra £60m, whilst the Heathrow increases accounted for extra costs in the year of £12m."
"bmi regional achieved once again the accolade of being the most punctual UK airline for the fourth consecutive year, and bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers."
* Fuel increases = £60m
* Heathrow = £12m
* "additional revenue in bmibaby"
* "bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers"
Flightrider - shut the f*ck up!
"The after tax loss for the year was £99.7m, which compares with a modest post tax profit of £7m for the prior year."
"Fuel cost us significantly more year on year despite our hedging policy and BAA continued blindly to apply double digit percentage increases at Heathrow aided by poor regulation by the CAA. The fuel increase was mitigated somewhat by surcharges as well as a rise of additional revenue in bmibaby, but still cost us an extra £60m, whilst the Heathrow increases accounted for extra costs in the year of £12m."
"bmi regional achieved once again the accolade of being the most punctual UK airline for the fourth consecutive year, and bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers."
* Fuel increases = £60m
* Heathrow = £12m
* "additional revenue in bmibaby"
* "bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers"
Flightrider - shut the f*ck up!
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Erm, just to point out that Revenue isn't profit.
I could sell £10 notes for £5 a time - I'm sure my revenue would increase significantly, but I'd still be loosing money.
"bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers"
What would these be - I'm not familiar with WW, but have they implemented new charges - increased booking fees or onboard services e.g. pre-booked car parking or public transport tickets? (out of geniune interest not trying to have a snipe)
I could sell £10 notes for £5 a time - I'm sure my revenue would increase significantly, but I'd still be loosing money.
"bmibaby made great strides in identifying and collecting additional revenue streams from our passengers"
What would these be - I'm not familiar with WW, but have they implemented new charges - increased booking fees or onboard services e.g. pre-booked car parking or public transport tickets? (out of geniune interest not trying to have a snipe)
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my god, did baby find another way to fleece the punters? Yes they found other ways to make money but was it at the detriment to other ancillary revenue streams or the core focus?
So £99.7 million loss and people are being told to f@*ck off because NT says all is good in the hood? BD are turning into BACON, no focus, no profit and a miss matched product and a common fleet with different cabins and the older British Midland Airways staff leaving and the new minimum wage chavs doing the business desk!
BD are the unwanted and unsuccessful love child of a poor relationship and now the sugar daddy, the civilian luftwaffle regret their decision?
So £99.7 million loss and people are being told to f@*ck off because NT says all is good in the hood? BD are turning into BACON, no focus, no profit and a miss matched product and a common fleet with different cabins and the older British Midland Airways staff leaving and the new minimum wage chavs doing the business desk!
BD are the unwanted and unsuccessful love child of a poor relationship and now the sugar daddy, the civilian luftwaffle regret their decision?
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The Lufty deal will have gone through the regulators within 5 weeks and it will be a done deal.
Then the Germans will do what they do best and turn Bmi into a vibrant profitable organisation. Just have to get a few senior management away first.
D and F
Then the Germans will do what they do best and turn Bmi into a vibrant profitable organisation. Just have to get a few senior management away first.
D and F
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bmi Frequencies
I have just learned that Dublin/Heathrow with bmi will be cut from 7 to 6 a day from the summer. And Amsterdam/Heathrow will also be cut.
Does anyone know what is the story with Belfast City/Heathrow, is there anything to suggest frequency will be cut there. I would have thought the Dublin route was performing as well as the Belfast city one yet it is being cut??
EI-BUD
Does anyone know what is the story with Belfast City/Heathrow, is there anything to suggest frequency will be cut there. I would have thought the Dublin route was performing as well as the Belfast city one yet it is being cut??
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Belfast route performs much better than DUB-LHR for bmi. It was in fact one of their most profitable routes although has taken a hit in recent times like most other routes. It will maintain it's frequency but I hear Dublin is so much more competitive and hence less slices of the pie to go around.
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One of BMI majors problem is that they still have to endure operating out of T1 at LHR.
BMI is no longer as punctual as BA and businessmen will continue to move to T5.The airline will continue to suffer until the next new terminal is built.
Could someone enlighten us on how NT can get his £45m PA savings without a major directional change for the airline ?
Speaking to a LHR manager recently, he had no clue as to what was going on (and neither did his Boss !)
BMI is no longer as punctual as BA and businessmen will continue to move to T5.The airline will continue to suffer until the next new terminal is built.
Could someone enlighten us on how NT can get his £45m PA savings without a major directional change for the airline ?
Speaking to a LHR manager recently, he had no clue as to what was going on (and neither did his Boss !)
Its odd really I guess how people have different perceptions of things. As a SLF I have actually utilised BD services more since they have taken a greater hold on operations out of Terminal 1 (especially for London/Scotland sectors.)
I have found T1 less crowded (and I dont think it's just because of the recession) - parking off airport but close to T1 easier, ease of access using connect or express services good, (unlike T5) and the Midland gates quite airy and clean...also their aircraft somewhat nicer than the last BA A319 I was on the other week flying up to EDI which was very shabby inside I must say - (kind of surprised me).
I hope they continue at T1!
Nivsy
I have found T1 less crowded (and I dont think it's just because of the recession) - parking off airport but close to T1 easier, ease of access using connect or express services good, (unlike T5) and the Midland gates quite airy and clean...also their aircraft somewhat nicer than the last BA A319 I was on the other week flying up to EDI which was very shabby inside I must say - (kind of surprised me).
I hope they continue at T1!
Nivsy
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For goodness sake give them a break........
Second SLF here who is also quite happy with BD thanks very much. I moved away from BA to BD 2 years ago and the thought of moving back has never occured to me. T1 is fine, I never wait more than 10 mins in security and the star alliance lounge is also great, connecting to UA & NZ is easy and even transferring to T3 isn't that bad. BD's new lounge opens in a couple of months and this will improve things even more. I fly BD metal from GLA to LHR, MAN, LBA once or twice a week and very rarely suffer any delays. Their staff are generally a credit to them, polite, courteous, non robotic and happy to help. Maybe I'm just incredibly lucky not to have experienced the BD being expressed above, or on the otherhand maybe some of the comments above are not actually by folks who actually travel with them as a paying customer?
Last point:- Referring to Lufthansa as Luftwaffa, its pretty offensive and I'm surprised that the mods allow it to go unchecked.
Last point:- Referring to Lufthansa as Luftwaffa, its pretty offensive and I'm surprised that the mods allow it to go unchecked.
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I find T1 OK, but getting into it is a pain. I am SLF and used bmi regularly from Teesside, then they messed around with the flight times making it inconvenient, now they have closed the route. Also closed Leeds, the next nearest airport. Can't see me using them anymore, LHR is not convenient to get to from the North East, so it's a boost to KLM and Amsterdam and National Express.
Worst thing bmi did was abolish business class, that was the beginning of the end as far as I can see.
Best wishes to all the Teesside crew who were always professional and friendly.
Worst thing bmi did was abolish business class, that was the beginning of the end as far as I can see.
Best wishes to all the Teesside crew who were always professional and friendly.
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LH Italia
G-DBCA & G-DBCC will be the dedicated A/C operating the LH Italia flights. 'CA is off to EMA tmrw for a repaint & will be operating the MXP flights. Looks like 'CC will be operating TXL in bmi colours.
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Oh, so the MXP flights are going to be operated as "LH Italia" in full LH colors then? Thats interesting, I didn't know that was going to be the case.
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I believe that both aircraft (G-DBCA & G-DBCB as of last week) will be remaining in their bmi livery.
CA is going into the hangar for work prior to the LH wet leaase, but not for a repaint.
MXP and TXL start Sunday 29th March, just a week away.
CA is going into the hangar for work prior to the LH wet leaase, but not for a repaint.
MXP and TXL start Sunday 29th March, just a week away.
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The deal hasn't been completed, but two A319s are being 'wet leased' to LH to operate from Heathrow to TXL and MXP from the summer 2009 timetable. The aircraft operating for LH will be in bmi livery and flown by bmi pilots and cc.
TCX69
All three bmi A330s have been to VIE for 'C-6 checks' in the last six weeks.
first G-WWBM, then G-WWBB and finally G-WWBD.
The deal hasn't been completed, but two A319s are being 'wet leased' to LH to operate from Heathrow to TXL and MXP from the summer 2009 timetable. The aircraft operating for LH will be in bmi livery and flown by bmi pilots and cc.
TCX69
All three bmi A330s have been to VIE for 'C-6 checks' in the last six weeks.
first G-WWBM, then G-WWBB and finally G-WWBD.
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LHR-MAN schedules
Evening! Anyone know if the status quo with cancellations on the MAN-LHR shuttles with BD will continue? I'm making the assumption aircraft are being shifted to more profitable charter operations as flights are often cancelled days or weeks in advance - still not terribly useful when I keep getting re-booked onto flights which shorten my weekends!
Will use BA if the situation with BD is set to continue, so any info would be most useful - BD staff either don't know what the issue is or are unwilling to openly divulge.
Will use BA if the situation with BD is set to continue, so any info would be most useful - BD staff either don't know what the issue is or are unwilling to openly divulge.