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Are GSM going to be extending the contract with GMG ? according to jethros fleet listings http://www.jethros.dwsitech.com/flee...yglobespan.htm
the a/c with GMG was to come back in April 08.
the a/c with GMG was to come back in April 08.
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Is the Flyglobespan 757 G-CEJM parked up at GLA now or is it still in SFB ?
Are they trying to replace this a/c or get another 757 as a back-up a/c before they start the services to Toronto YHM for S08 ?
Are they trying to replace this a/c or get another 757 as a back-up a/c before they start the services to Toronto YHM for S08 ?
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Is the Flyglobespan 757 G-CEJM parked up at GLA now or is it still in SFB ?
Is the Flyglobespan 757 G-CEJM parked up at GLA now or is it still in SFB ?
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Theres constant talk on the Jet2 forum that Flyglobespan will soon collapse and will ither be merging or being bought by Jet2 but i think there just hoping so because they want the ETOPS does anybody know if this is rubbish or if it could happen ?
Given Globespan's history with ETOPS, I am not sure if the Jet2 comment is meant to be a wind-up or whether it is serious. Whether the discussions are happening or not, there is an undeniable synergy between the two airlines (and probably with bmibaby as well).
Each of them will, in turn, be squeezed by the "big two" - Ryanair and easyJet - and there is probably some merit in combining the businesses to create a larger LCC with some staying power. Globespan is increasingly being pressured by easyJet in Scotland; Jet2 caught in the crossfire of a battle at Belfast between easyJet and Aer Lingus and cutting back heavily at Manchester in the face of stiff competition. I suppose the key issue is going to be one of whether the respective owners get on well enough to sit around the table for a discussion.
Each of them will, in turn, be squeezed by the "big two" - Ryanair and easyJet - and there is probably some merit in combining the businesses to create a larger LCC with some staying power. Globespan is increasingly being pressured by easyJet in Scotland; Jet2 caught in the crossfire of a battle at Belfast between easyJet and Aer Lingus and cutting back heavily at Manchester in the face of stiff competition. I suppose the key issue is going to be one of whether the respective owners get on well enough to sit around the table for a discussion.
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'The 757 should be back in GLA anytime now and will be used as a backup for the 73s for Feb/March. The S08 SFB is 2 class only and is being sold as our 757 config, with business and premium economy seats.
It seems that no final decisions have been made for S08 yet, but we are told that there are no plans this year to send 737s transatlantic......... But then again!!'
Does that mean the 738 is sched to do GLA-SFB through Feb and Mar then?. And although their 'selling' the 757 will it actually be there?. Friends of mine booked a while back to fly in March and have pretty tight sched's when they arrive. If its the 738 and a non ETOPS route with fuel stop, their Sat flight will be hit hard by delays with flights on the thursday and friday and minimal turn rounds at each end.
We've managed to change but they're stuck.
'The 757 should be back in GLA anytime now and will be used as a backup for the 73s for Feb/March. The S08 SFB is 2 class only and is being sold as our 757 config, with business and premium economy seats.
It seems that no final decisions have been made for S08 yet, but we are told that there are no plans this year to send 737s transatlantic......... But then again!!'
Does that mean the 738 is sched to do GLA-SFB through Feb and Mar then?. And although their 'selling' the 757 will it actually be there?. Friends of mine booked a while back to fly in March and have pretty tight sched's when they arrive. If its the 738 and a non ETOPS route with fuel stop, their Sat flight will be hit hard by delays with flights on the thursday and friday and minimal turn rounds at each end.
We've managed to change but they're stuck.
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That's just great! We're booked on Saturday 1st March GLA - SFB. Thought it wasn't looking good taking 10.5 hours flying time. This is not what I wanted to hear!
I was expecting a fuel stop but without ETOPS, and using a 738? Doom and gloom!
I was expecting a fuel stop but without ETOPS, and using a 738? Doom and gloom!
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sorry to hear than di canio. We're booked on the 24th April. we have a flight time of 10hours 30minutes going out but only 9 hours 10minutes coming back -surely the wind wont make that much of a difference?
will it be the 757 thats doing the route come April instead of the 737 which requires a stop if non etops? so the 10 hours plus flight is including the time taken to go the non ETOPS route but at least there wont be fuel stop?
looking at the flight duration times NEOS starts at the end of may as the flights decrease by 90 minutes.
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will it be the 757 thats doing the route come April instead of the 737 which requires a stop if non etops? so the 10 hours plus flight is including the time taken to go the non ETOPS route but at least there wont be fuel stop?
looking at the flight duration times NEOS starts at the end of may as the flights decrease by 90 minutes.
cheers
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737 will need to stop no matter what route it takes, even SFB to GLA.. It doesnt have the range.
Wind will make that much difference. West-East is always quicker accross the pond.
757 can make it in a single hop SFB-GLA and if the winds/loads are favourable it can make it GLA-SFB. On a non ETOPS route it will need to stop no matter what.
767 can go non ETOPS single hop and has done so for the last few trips.. It takes longer but theres no fuel stop.
Wind will make that much difference. West-East is always quicker accross the pond.
757 can make it in a single hop SFB-GLA and if the winds/loads are favourable it can make it GLA-SFB. On a non ETOPS route it will need to stop no matter what.
767 can go non ETOPS single hop and has done so for the last few trips.. It takes longer but theres no fuel stop.
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we are due on a 757 and have been assured by globespan that there will not be a stop but i guess at a flight time of 10:30 there must be a stop factored in.
Are you saying that a non etops 757 must stop somewhere? I guess GS will not bother with ETOPS if Neos are picking the route up.
I feel a phone call to them coming on!
Cheers for the info.
Are you saying that a non etops 757 must stop somewhere? I guess GS will not bother with ETOPS if Neos are picking the route up.
I feel a phone call to them coming on!
Cheers for the info.
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Going non ETOPS the 757 will need to stop for fuel.
Chances are GSM will get their 757 flying again or find a replacement but its whether they will do it before you go?. NEOS A/C probably wont arrived until May and with their own 767's lease to AI likely to be extended it looks like 73's wherever they can squeeze them in, swapped with a 75 if they get one or can get thier own off the ground.
If luvly Jubbly (or anyone else) can confirm the 73/75 situation it would help.
I hope they dont stick with a 73 and non etops through March. I know a few people who wont arrive on SFB at the scheduled 4:30 on the Saturday. More likely 10-11 pm if they're lucky with the Sunday looking more probable.
Chances are GSM will get their 757 flying again or find a replacement but its whether they will do it before you go?. NEOS A/C probably wont arrived until May and with their own 767's lease to AI likely to be extended it looks like 73's wherever they can squeeze them in, swapped with a 75 if they get one or can get thier own off the ground.
If luvly Jubbly (or anyone else) can confirm the 73/75 situation it would help.
I hope they dont stick with a 73 and non etops through March. I know a few people who wont arrive on SFB at the scheduled 4:30 on the Saturday. More likely 10-11 pm if they're lucky with the Sunday looking more probable.
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Reported in Belgium that one of the 2 Neos 767s will be going to JetAirFly in Brussels from May 10th for the rest of the year, so presumably GSM will only need 1, or will have to look elsewhere for a second.
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just phoned them up and they hope to have the 757 in place by April and if thats the case they will re-apply for ETOPS.
Anyone else think they wont bother to apply and that we'll be lucky if its even the 757?
Anyone else think they wont bother to apply and that we'll be lucky if its even the 757?
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Probably be informed by the captain with his pre-take off brief! 
Well, the 757 is back in GLA but I'm yet to hear when it might be operational.
G-CEOD the 767 from the now defunct SB contract is away for a week on a charter but will be back in GLA on 3rd Feb. This will be used for the SFB, in the meantime. GSM is scheduling SFB with 757 flight times which include a tech stop. After last year's problems, delays and unscheduled stops are something we are trying very hard to avoid!
ps. We are working on getting ETOPS back asap.
Well, the 757 is back in GLA but I'm yet to hear when it might be operational.
G-CEOD the 767 from the now defunct SB contract is away for a week on a charter but will be back in GLA on 3rd Feb. This will be used for the SFB, in the meantime. GSM is scheduling SFB with 757 flight times which include a tech stop. After last year's problems, delays and unscheduled stops are something we are trying very hard to avoid!
ps. We are working on getting ETOPS back asap.
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