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Old 15th Feb 2010, 11:45
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The announcement . . . .

FLYBE OPENS UP GARDEN OF ENGLAND

Leading regional airline announces brand new Manston to Edinburgh route with scheduled daily service from Kent airport

Flybe, today announced another brand new route namely a daily Edinburgh to Manston service that, apart from opening up the Garden of England to the Scottish market also offers regional travellers the only scheduled flight to be currently operated out of Kent International Airport.

The new route, with a flight time of just 80 minutes, will be operated by Flybe’s fuel efficient 78- seat Bombardier Q-400 turboprop aircraft.

DAILY SCHEDULE:
Sundays and Monday – Friday
• Flight departs Edinburgh 1050 arr Manston 1220
• Flight departs Manston 1245 arr Edinburgh 1415
Saturday
• Flight departs Edinburgh 1450 arr Manston 1620
• Flight departs Manston 1645 arr Edinburgh 1815

Edited to prevent gross violations of PPRuNe advertising rules.

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Old 15th Feb 2010, 13:42
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it is fantastic but not for business people ,at these flight times, there's very little chance of making your meetings .weekend breaks super. i just hope they will bring in island ,spain and ,france. good luck manston its what we have been waiting for, for a very long time.
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 16:34
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whats the point starting each reply with the word friend?
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 17:53
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Calm down everyone

Dont get too carried away..................niknak and deedave will surely bring everyone down to earth.
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Old 15th Feb 2010, 18:10
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Don't know why you should think that, any critcism I've made of Manston in the past has been made on purely practical business grounds.
It seems that Infratil are in it for the long term now and this announcement from Flybe is great news for the traveling public (business and tourist).

No doubt a deal has been thrashed out between Matt Clarke and Flybe, but those who aren't familier with Mr Rutter's tactics should be aware that his are very similar to that of Mr O'Leary of another airline - he'll supply the aeroplane and the passengers - you make the money via passenger throughput in the terminal, don't even think about landing fees....
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No good for business

Is it positive that Flybe have at last woken up to MSE - Yes of course it is, but it's taken them 5 years to do so. I suspect it's a little sweetner to Infratil to keep them on the boil for another year or two, something positive for the PR machine (remember when Infratil took over the aiport- "we will be profitable in 3 years" - and that time scale expired before the recession hit!) Niknak is right I doubt if there are any landing fees involved not if Flybe are charging 0 cost plus taxes.

They might get a few pax for weekend breaks (fewer still for mid week breaks) but anyone who thinks this is for the business flyer is in cloud cuckoo. If your happy with a late afternoon / early morning meeting in Edinburgh combined with a leisurely overnight stay sure why not...I don't run my business like that though..certainly not in this market.

Dont get me wrong I would love to see MSE get some sensible domestic and European routes going would save me the trouble of Gatwick, but remember this guys and gals EDI was Eujets most popular route. Double daily at realistic business travel times. It was a low cost model (lower than Flybe) and 75% of the traffic during the week were suits! They still only averaged 55% load.

Mr Flybe put a Q400 on with at least 2 rotations a day based at MSE and you have a winning route...otherwise forget it!
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Old 16th Feb 2010, 09:24
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Sorry, tongue in cheek comment.

I agree a double daily would be preferable but it is a start.
Also there probably wont be any landing fees, but lets see how it goes.

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to start with, landing fees are not top of the list, operating costs remain the same if flybe land or dont. its getting the first paying pax flight back, and although the times are not great, its a start. edi was always a good route with eujet so was manchester, glasgow, amsterdam and dublin. but they tried to run before they could walk, lets take it slowly this time. (but not too slow). I'm still tying to get my job back..........
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Old 1st Mar 2010, 20:26
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Infratil's January report:

January freight volume at KIA was 2,637 tonnes, 16% up on January 2009. For the ten months of the financial year to date cargo traffic is 70% ahead of the comparative period in 2008/9.

In February Flybe, Europe's largest and most successful regional airline announced that it would commence daily services between Kent Airport and Edinburgh on the 27th of May 2010. The service will operate using 78 seat Bombardier Q400 aircraft and marks the return of daily scheduled passenger traffic to KIA.
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Does anyone know how the expansion plans for Lydd airport will affect Manston's development and the implications involved?

Your thoughts...
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I think the two airports should aim to complement each other's plans. Southampton and Bournemouth serve different market sectors, whereas Newcastle and Durham/Tees Valley compete. If Lydd and Manston are to both succeed, there will need to be some strategic give-and-take.
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If Lydd and Manston are to both succeed, there will need to be some strategic give-and-take
Can't see either management thinking that's a good idea. But Lydd's future is bleak even with an extended runway. No airline's going to commit to regular services to an airport where you can only land in one direction most of the time. They had planning permission for a runway extension before and didn't use it. It'll be interesting to see if the Saudi backers are still prepared to pour their cash into this black hole.
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whats the latest with the hangar, has the md80 turned up yet?

ps good report on lydd, thanks






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Old 5th Mar 2010, 18:21
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Md80 due next week according to another Manston movements forum. Meridian Airways DC8 in the hangar for ten days from monday and we have a casualty in the hangar today. Ministry of Ag. and Fish Cessna had a major bird strike and is hangared for inspection
IL-96 operators were impressed with the hospitality at KIA, An-124 in sunday

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Old 13th Mar 2010, 10:40
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I have just booked flights for a short break in Edinburgh. However I will take the precaution of booking a hotel that allows cancellation without penalty on the day of arrival.
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And just why will you do that then!? Or are you just another poster that seems to have issues with the carrier operating the new route?
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It may not be my nearest airport but Manston is probably the easiest to get to from my home and I would like to see it succeed.

I am just not 100% confident that the plane will turn up.
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Old 13th Mar 2010, 20:08
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well maybe you should be a bit more positive and have a bit more confidence in, what is now Europe's largest regional airline. Manston is lucky to have secured this so I am sure they will do all possible with Flybe to ensure the route is a success.
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Old 19th Mar 2010, 19:29
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Flybe, the UK’s Number One domestic airline, reports that its newly announced daily Edinburgh to Manston service has attracted strong interest in record time with many flights already more than 50% full.

Early bookings have been blossoming since going on sale last month, resulting in load factors that are comfortably ahead of Flybe’s initial forecasts and customers continue to snap up tickets, ensuring they receive the very best value for money fares offered on this key route.

The flights offer regional travellers the only scheduled flight to be currently scheduled out of Manston, Kent’s International Airport, and whilst a large percentage of passengers are travelling to Scotland, increasing numbers are now booking to pay summer visits to the Garden of England when flights begin on May 27th.


Flybe’s reputation for providing quality, affordable and reliable travel has been confirmed many times and most recently it has been proud to have attracted global recognition by being the only UK carrier to feature in the prestigious Forbes 2009 Top 10 on time arrival list of Global Major Carriers.

Mike Rutter, Flybe’s Chief Commercial Officer, says: “We’re really pleased with the level of online bookings and strong passenger interest shown in the route in such a short time. Our customers are obviously appreciating that, in the current economic climate, Flybe is committed to providing the most convenient, affordable, quality regional travel options with real value added benefits.”

Adds Matt Clarke, Chief Executive of Manston, Kent’s International Airport: “The opportunity to fly to Edinburgh, an exciting and historic European capital, without the hassle of enduring the M25 and with the added benefit of low cost, convenient parking is obviously proving very attractive.

“Early inbound sales from Scottish-based travellers indicate that Kent is also set for a welcome boost, as visitors deliver increased spending in local shops, restaurants and attractions, whether they are here as tourists or enjoying time with friends and family.”
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Old 19th Mar 2010, 20:16
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What are the chances of Flybe flying to Manston from other airports?
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