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The visits are tied around something to do with BA, whether its engine maintenance from Rolls Royce or to test as a diversion point, as it is a central airport to the Country.
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@ SpitfireAlex
What are you on about the terminal? The terminal has nothing to do with it. Not having stands directly connected to the terminal or airbridges is not a bar to operating.
The airport wouldnt be able to get it on the central apron but there is abolutely nothing stopping it going on the East apron where there are stands it would easially fit on and its not that far from the terminal (unlike DHL West Apron)
Though I hear there are plans afoot for multi-million pound redevelopments for the terminal anyway.
What are you on about the terminal? The terminal has nothing to do with it. Not having stands directly connected to the terminal or airbridges is not a bar to operating.
The airport wouldnt be able to get it on the central apron but there is abolutely nothing stopping it going on the East apron where there are stands it would easially fit on and its not that far from the terminal (unlike DHL West Apron)
Though I hear there are plans afoot for multi-million pound redevelopments for the terminal anyway.
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I visited the aeropark yesterday mainly to look around the museum but to also look across at the airport, the airport looked very quiet and looked very weird without bmi baby aircraft there ! It could do with some airlines replacing the routes that haven't already been replaced ! P.s the aeropark is a great place to visit a nice variety of aircraft and also featured some new items they'd gained from bmi baby !
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Monarch havent moved all of their planned aircraft in yet. They're still using wet lease at the moment from Air Italy and another foreign airline (i'm not sure who the 'red nose' is leased from). A third aircraft should be coming in to operate winter schedule and then more again for summer '13. They havent yet set up the base yet but are beginning to operate some of the routes to start the revenue rolling in.
Flybe havent moved in yet with their two Dash 8s that will be based (in addition to the 2 that have started operating GLA-EMA-GLA and EDI-EMA-EDI sectors and the pre-existing BHD-EMA-BHD) in order to operate EMA-CDG-EMA and EMA-AMS-EMA.
Flybe havent moved in yet with their two Dash 8s that will be based (in addition to the 2 that have started operating GLA-EMA-GLA and EDI-EMA-EDI sectors and the pre-existing BHD-EMA-BHD) in order to operate EMA-CDG-EMA and EMA-AMS-EMA.
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Monarch/flybe
Burnie5204
Has something changed?
The Monarch base this winter is one Monarch branded aircraft with the two leased going back and flybe is just one Q400. Is it just the way you have posted as it could read the Monarch base will be three this winter with the Monarch branded aircraft arriving?
The Monarch base is two for summer 2013 and flybe hopefully will go to two with Amsterdam double daily.
VC10man
Jersey is a Q400 operated by from MAN/SOU aircraft through JER.
Pete
Has something changed?
The Monarch base this winter is one Monarch branded aircraft with the two leased going back and flybe is just one Q400. Is it just the way you have posted as it could read the Monarch base will be three this winter with the Monarch branded aircraft arriving?
The Monarch base is two for summer 2013 and flybe hopefully will go to two with Amsterdam double daily.
VC10man
Jersey is a Q400 operated by from MAN/SOU aircraft through JER.
Pete
Grand Plans?
What sort of grand plans are you thinking about? Perhaps turning the shed at the end of the building that passes for a check-in hall into a B&Q?
When an airport has for it's customer base a string of carriers who pay next to nothing to use it (Ryanair etc) it's difficult to see where the money would come from, or even the incentive to improve the facilities.
I think that MAG probably has better things to do with their money in the current difficult economic circumstances.
When an airport has for it's customer base a string of carriers who pay next to nothing to use it (Ryanair etc) it's difficult to see where the money would come from, or even the incentive to improve the facilities.
I think that MAG probably has better things to do with their money in the current difficult economic circumstances.
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Hardly grand plans, but I have heard of a plan to create some extra space in the departure lounge by relocating some of the shops and restaurants upstairs, in an extension to the first floor. Although the word is that management were informed by the structural engineers that the existing ground floor would need to be strengthened first. There have been a number of surveyors on the roof of the departure lounge in recent weeks taking measurements, so perhaps the project will go ahead, like everything else I'll believe it when I see it.
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@OltonPete
The winter schedule is 4 routes, the current 2 aircraft are running 4 routes and are only on ground for overnight stops and turnarounds. Flicking through their bookings website it shows that they will run ALC on Tues+Sat, PMI will stop, FAO will run Thur+Sun, AGP on Mon+Fri+Sun and ACE on Mon+Thurs. Alternatively you could lay it out as:
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP
So they would need minimum of 2 airframes as the ACE is c.4 1/2 hours each way. You wouldn't be able to fit that AND an AGP/FAO into the mix on 1 day for 1 airframe and we are expecting them to replace the wet leases shortly with the first full based airframe arriving prior to the others leaving as the ACE kicks off a few days before the other 4 routes cease their current daily operations.
This then picks up to 7 routes from S13 including TFS and IBZ as well as the 4 winter routes + PMI again with an increase in flight intensity for the routes (they aren't running daily PMI, ALC, AGP & FAO for fun...) , almost certainly going to be a minimum 3 airframe operation.
Flybe wise they announced 2 Dash 8s based from October, I've not seen or heard any change to that.
@Sunday8pm
Nothing in depth, just that MAG were going to be pumping a load of money into the terminal
The winter schedule is 4 routes, the current 2 aircraft are running 4 routes and are only on ground for overnight stops and turnarounds. Flicking through their bookings website it shows that they will run ALC on Tues+Sat, PMI will stop, FAO will run Thur+Sun, AGP on Mon+Fri+Sun and ACE on Mon+Thurs. Alternatively you could lay it out as:
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP
So they would need minimum of 2 airframes as the ACE is c.4 1/2 hours each way. You wouldn't be able to fit that AND an AGP/FAO into the mix on 1 day for 1 airframe and we are expecting them to replace the wet leases shortly with the first full based airframe arriving prior to the others leaving as the ACE kicks off a few days before the other 4 routes cease their current daily operations.
This then picks up to 7 routes from S13 including TFS and IBZ as well as the 4 winter routes + PMI again with an increase in flight intensity for the routes (they aren't running daily PMI, ALC, AGP & FAO for fun...) , almost certainly going to be a minimum 3 airframe operation.
Flybe wise they announced 2 Dash 8s based from October, I've not seen or heard any change to that.
@Sunday8pm
Nothing in depth, just that MAG were going to be pumping a load of money into the terminal
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Burnie5204
OltonPete is the expert on this, but I cannot see that the winter schedule, which appears to be 13 departures per week is ever going to keep two aircraft busy - though I grant you that things might be a tad tight on Monday and Thursday.
I haven't looked at the timings but, if on the aforementioned days the AGP and FAO depart EMA at ca. 07:00, they'll be back in around 15:00, in time to take out ACE at ca. 16:00, which would be back in the middle of the following morning. Not great for the PAX, but it would negate the requirement for an additional airframe on any day of the week.
OltonPete is the expert on this, but I cannot see that the winter schedule, which appears to be 13 departures per week is ever going to keep two aircraft busy - though I grant you that things might be a tad tight on Monday and Thursday.
I haven't looked at the timings but, if on the aforementioned days the AGP and FAO depart EMA at ca. 07:00, they'll be back in around 15:00, in time to take out ACE at ca. 16:00, which would be back in the middle of the following morning. Not great for the PAX, but it would negate the requirement for an additional airframe on any day of the week.
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Burnie5204,
Winter will see just the one based aircraft as OltonPete has said. Lanzarote can be operated after Faro and it is indeed not uncommon to see this sort of schedule . Tenerife will not operate in the summer and 2 aircraft can easily operate the schedule - with one even been on the ground from around 9pm until the next days flights!
Winter will see just the one based aircraft as OltonPete has said. Lanzarote can be operated after Faro and it is indeed not uncommon to see this sort of schedule . Tenerife will not operate in the summer and 2 aircraft can easily operate the schedule - with one even been on the ground from around 9pm until the next days flights!
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You're right the TFS isn't S13 but W12 start on Tuesdays and Fridays meaning the weekly schedule for W12 is:
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC, TFS
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP, TFS
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP
And somewhere in the comms chain something has broken down because the ramp crews I've been speaking to are expecting more than 1 airframe over winter...
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC, TFS
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP, TFS
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP
And somewhere in the comms chain something has broken down because the ramp crews I've been speaking to are expecting more than 1 airframe over winter...
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