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Old 18th Aug 2012, 10:01
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The gaps have been filled by Flybe (AMS, CDG, GLA, EDI, JER) and Jet2 with extra capacity.

I guess that some of the less obvious routes will have to wait until the economy improves - and that could be a few years away!

Forget EZY, it won't happen, how ever much you want it to.
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Old 18th Aug 2012, 12:02
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The capacity doesn't cover what baby had, jet2, monarch, and Flybe have done well in short notice to take over the lost capacity on many routes, but there's still room for expansion from other airlines, doubt easy jet but who knows.
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 09:35
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Correct, the capacity may not have been replaced, but perhaps overcapacity resulted in depressed yields, which lead to the losses that Baby incurred, which resulted in their being disposed of by LH and closed down by BA?

Capacity reduction may result in higher yields, and help retain the routes that have been taken up by BE, LS and ZB.
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 10:10
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What was the outcome of the TOM senior management visit to EMA ?
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Old 19th Aug 2012, 15:01
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Im not saying monarch Flybe and jet2 should take on bmibabys failed routes, but there's room for other airlines to create some new routes from east mids now bmibaby are leaving

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Old 19th Aug 2012, 23:09
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BMI's maintenance and engineering facility closes at the end of the year with everybody except a few who have applied for jobs with BA at LHR being made redundant. BA/IAG are not putting any work into the hangar and it will be vacated by bmi and handed back to the airport. No signs of anybody taking on the hangar lease and saving some jobs.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 08:32
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It seems odd to me that Jet2 and other airlines send their planes all over Europe for maintenance when EMA has a good facility.
It would be good for someone to take the people on and service the planes at EMA. They must be good at their job because Baby's old planes seemed to have good reliability.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 09:06
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It seems odd to me that Jet2 and other airlines send their planes all over Europe for maintenance when EMA has a good facility.
Yes I agree, but in the end it all comes down to cost.
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Old 20th Aug 2012, 10:42
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Yes TSR2 I understand that, but it makes you wonder when airlines send their planes to places like Malta, Budapest, China and other cheapo places and then seem to have maintenance problems. If I owned an old 737-300 I would use EMA and have it done properly and well.

Perhaps that is why I don't run an airline!
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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 02:33
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Monarch takes off as the new East Midlands airline | This is Nottingham

Says here 2 A321's based at east midlands Quoting " the plan is the network will grow"
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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 03:05
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What a missed opportunity for some publicity. I thought the photo was about some old geezers selling antiques for a new BBC show.

VC10man - Even Virgin Atlantic send some of their fleet to Manila for maintenance. Thats not exactly a reassuring thought but they do seem to keep it well hidden. Virgin have a perfectly good facility at Heathrow too but it may not always be available and the cost of labour at LHR v MNL is hugely different.

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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 10:17
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A321's from Summer 2013, 1 A321 for W12/13, Leased A/C for the remainder of this Summer.
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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 13:55
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Heard a roumor that a A380 & 787 will be visiting ema sometime soon to test the facility's in the event of a divert? Can anyone confirm?
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A380 Divert airports in the UK other than those already served are BHX, STN & LGW. Not sure why a B787 would need a "test" divert. If you look on the NATS website, there are published A380 Taxi routes for BHX & STN.
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Old 22nd Aug 2012, 19:56
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Supposedly coming in within the next two months, don't know how true that is, time will tell.
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 01:09
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I did'nt think east midlands could even take an a380, hence when it first entered service it only did a flypast ?
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It may seem ironic, that even with the excellent bmi facility at EMA, bmibaby 737s were sent to Sofia to have major servicing done by Lufthansa Technic.

EMA was only used for day to day line sevicing.

As TSR2 says, it's all down to cost.

You are right though, the 737s are a credit to EMA, with the two (G-OBMP and G-ODSK) which have been with British Midland from new being the best two in the fleet.
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Old 23rd Aug 2012, 15:26
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East Midlands can easily handle the A380,it handles the AN 225 the biggest Aircraft in the world so the A380 is no problem.
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If the 787 and A380 do land will they park in the cargo ramp area ? Also are they both likely to be manufacturer demonstrators ?
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EMA A380

Not aware the A380 has CAA approval to land at EMA. NATS show approved CAA A380 taxiing charts for LHR,LGW,MAN and recently added BHX.Can't find one for EMA.

BHX has also JUST taken delivery of its first tug capable of pushing a 380. The EK one that visited had to use a tug borrowed from LHR.

EK will therefore use BHX,MAN LGW as English diversion fields.

I however see no reason why EMA with its longish runway can't get approval quickly for the type too ?

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