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Old 6th Sep 2012, 14:35
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Where did you find information on a terminal redevelopment?
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Old 6th Sep 2012, 16:35
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Ground movement charts for the A380 are on the UK AIP entries for LHR, BHX and MAN.
Found them! Thanks again.

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Old 6th Sep 2012, 16:47
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This thread is beginning to drift, i'll eat my hat if a A380 lands at EMA. LHR diversion due snow yeah maybe but to be honest who cares
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Old 15th Sep 2012, 20:42
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Flybe to operate weekly Chambery flight Dec-Mar on a Q400
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Old 16th Sep 2012, 07:18
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I visited the aeropark yesterday mainly to look around the museum but to also look across at the airport, the airport looked very quiet and looked very weird without bmi baby aircraft there ! It could do with some airlines replacing the routes that haven't already been replaced ! P.s the aeropark is a great place to visit a nice variety of aircraft and also featured some new items they'd gained from bmi baby !
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Old 17th Sep 2012, 23:00
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Monarch havent moved all of their planned aircraft in yet. They're still using wet lease at the moment from Air Italy and another foreign airline (i'm not sure who the 'red nose' is leased from). A third aircraft should be coming in to operate winter schedule and then more again for summer '13. They havent yet set up the base yet but are beginning to operate some of the routes to start the revenue rolling in.

Flybe havent moved in yet with their two Dash 8s that will be based (in addition to the 2 that have started operating GLA-EMA-GLA and EDI-EMA-EDI sectors and the pre-existing BHD-EMA-BHD) in order to operate EMA-CDG-EMA and EMA-AMS-EMA.

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Old 18th Sep 2012, 18:43
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Which aircraft are Flybe using on the Jersey route?
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Old 18th Sep 2012, 19:17
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Has something changed?

The Monarch base this winter is one Monarch branded aircraft with the two leased going back and flybe is just one Q400. Is it just the way you have posted as it could read the Monarch base will be three this winter with the Monarch branded aircraft arriving?

The Monarch base is two for summer 2013 and flybe hopefully will go to two with Amsterdam double daily.


Jersey is a Q400 operated by from MAN/SOU aircraft through JER.

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 11:00
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Would be very interesting to discover more of any grand plans for the terminal at EMA. Please enlighten..
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 11:42
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Grand Plans?

What sort of grand plans are you thinking about? Perhaps turning the shed at the end of the building that passes for a check-in hall into a B&Q?

When an airport has for it's customer base a string of carriers who pay next to nothing to use it (Ryanair etc) it's difficult to see where the money would come from, or even the incentive to improve the facilities.

I think that MAG probably has better things to do with their money in the current difficult economic circumstances.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 12:08
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Quite, but I'd be interested to hear of what Burnie knows!
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 12:49
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Any sign of anyone taking on EMA-NQY ?

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 14:50
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Hardly grand plans, but I have heard of a plan to create some extra space in the departure lounge by relocating some of the shops and restaurants upstairs, in an extension to the first floor. Although the word is that management were informed by the structural engineers that the existing ground floor would need to be strengthened first. There have been a number of surveyors on the roof of the departure lounge in recent weeks taking measurements, so perhaps the project will go ahead, like everything else I'll believe it when I see it.

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 17:24
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The winter schedule is 4 routes, the current 2 aircraft are running 4 routes and are only on ground for overnight stops and turnarounds. Flicking through their bookings website it shows that they will run ALC on Tues+Sat, PMI will stop, FAO will run Thur+Sun, AGP on Mon+Fri+Sun and ACE on Mon+Thurs. Alternatively you could lay it out as:
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP

So they would need minimum of 2 airframes as the ACE is c.4 1/2 hours each way. You wouldn't be able to fit that AND an AGP/FAO into the mix on 1 day for 1 airframe and we are expecting them to replace the wet leases shortly with the first full based airframe arriving prior to the others leaving as the ACE kicks off a few days before the other 4 routes cease their current daily operations.

This then picks up to 7 routes from S13 including TFS and IBZ as well as the 4 winter routes + PMI again with an increase in flight intensity for the routes (they aren't running daily PMI, ALC, AGP & FAO for fun...) , almost certainly going to be a minimum 3 airframe operation.

Flybe wise they announced 2 Dash 8s based from October, I've not seen or heard any change to that.


Nothing in depth, just that MAG were going to be pumping a load of money into the terminal

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 18:12
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OltonPete is the expert on this, but I cannot see that the winter schedule, which appears to be 13 departures per week is ever going to keep two aircraft busy - though I grant you that things might be a tad tight on Monday and Thursday.

I haven't looked at the timings but, if on the aforementioned days the AGP and FAO depart EMA at ca. 07:00, they'll be back in around 15:00, in time to take out ACE at ca. 16:00, which would be back in the middle of the following morning. Not great for the PAX, but it would negate the requirement for an additional airframe on any day of the week.
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 18:34
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Winter will see just the one based aircraft as OltonPete has said. Lanzarote can be operated after Faro and it is indeed not uncommon to see this sort of schedule . Tenerife will not operate in the summer and 2 aircraft can easily operate the schedule - with one even been on the ground from around 9pm until the next days flights!

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 18:47
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You're right the TFS isn't S13 but W12 start on Tuesdays and Fridays meaning the weekly schedule for W12 is:
Mon - AGP, ACE
Tues - ALC, TFS
Weds - Nil
Thurs - FAO, ACE
Fri - AGP, TFS
Sat - ALC
Sun - FAO, AGP

And somewhere in the comms chain something has broken down because the ramp crews I've been speaking to are expecting more than 1 airframe over winter...

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Old 19th Sep 2012, 20:28
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Burnie, the ramp crews will be disappointed then cos it's one airframe for Winter
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Old 19th Sep 2012, 20:34
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Spitfirealex, what bmibaby items have gone to the Aeropark? Hopefully the Despatch minibus!
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Old 20th Sep 2012, 09:15
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Terminal Development

It seems that there are plans in hand to significantly develop the terminal.

A recently submitted planning application for the re-structuring of the short stay car park and associated roads, includes a plan which shows the outline of a substantial extension to the terminal, with the notation "Terminal Security Area Development". This indicates a large extension across the whole land-side frontage of the existing terminal towards the short-stay car park.
Above the outline of the present terminal on the plan there is also the notation "Proposed Terminal", which may indicate the re-development of the upper floor level previously alluded to; the overall project title given is "Terminal Masterplan".
When funds may be released by MAG for such a project is debatable, but at least it must be under serious consideration.
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