EAST MIDLANDS - 6

[Cazza_fly]

I will try and find out if I can regarding the JER delay however the GLA is not the one scheduled to usually operate the service once it returns. All other flights seem to be running on-time or early.

will thy be better when the ex thomson aircraft arrives end of june.

The ex-TOM A/C is actually due to replace an existing aircraft in the fleet at the end of it's lease (it was expected to be another 735), so the fleet number will still remain the same.

[stuart-travel]

bmibaby ema

Thanks for your help with delay flights to jersey.

baby 2012 summer sat with the ema-szg qouted by inghams at a 07.00am dep and on this sun checking the sch it will make 9 dep on a sat early a/m is their to be some changes or a extra aircraft.

regards
Stuart

[FR-]

RIX W11

Looks like an extra RIX has been added for the winter, Tue, Thur, Sat & Sun, with the Sunday flight being on lates. Better times for pax who want a long weekend away. Shame about the loss of TLL, flights were busy and sales were good.

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[jpthomas72]

Thanks for the FR update.
EMA-TLL was probably FR's most predictable route failure to date, looked like a 'filler-route' they tried. Despite popular opinion, we have very few Estonians in the UK, as they aren't that many anyway (1 million in the whole country), they are richer and if they immigrated went to Scandinavia (it's 'Finland-South'). Completely different from LT and LV. TLL-LTN works, but not from the UK regions.

[wired2fly]

I wonder if that 747 inbound to EMA from the north at roughly 5pm was carrying Lewis Hamilton's Go-Kart he managed to smash up in Canada at the weekend

[OltonPete]

May pax

Source: CAA

May 2011 411521 +9.2% and rolling year 4148997 -2.7% ATM's 5164 +13.7%

No doubt Jet2 and no ash cloud closures making a difference.

flybe BHD 4583 pax average 37 pax if all flights operated

Pete

[airhumberside]

Probably a non-starter as some of the cleared times are nowhere near the desired times, but bmi applied for slots at FRA for an EMA service with ERJ-145's for Winter 2011/12

0820 Mon-Thu slot cleared for 2100
0820 Fri slot not cleared
0900 weekday slot cleared for 0510
0950 Sat slot cleared for 0945
1030 Sat slot cleared for 1115

Couldn't see any other slot applications for other times of day, but I may just have missed them

Info from german slot co-ordinator website https://sws.fhkd.org/

[FR-]

Anyone know when the all the winter flights will be loaded for Ryanair? And what routes and how many times a week, and if its EMA based crew. I noticed BGY is BGY based crews.

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[OliWW]

There are a few flights loaded at the moment...

DUB - 13x weekly (3 flights on DUB based a/c)

WRO - 4x weekly
RIX - 4x weekly

AGP - 3x weekly
ALC - 3x weekly
TFS - 3x weekly
KRK - 3x weekly
LCJ - 3x weekly
TSF - 3x weekly
NOC - 3x weekly
LIG - 3x weekly
DNR - 3x weekly

FUE - 2x weekly
LPA - 2x weekly
ACE - 2x weekly
RZE - 2x weekly
FAO - 2x weekly (1 flight on EMA based a/c)
BGY - 2x weekly (BGY based a/c)

From what I've seen, I believe 4 a/c are needed... but for quite a lot of the time only 3 are going to be used... its pretty poor!

[FR-]

Thanks Oli, just about the same as last year then, 3 and a bit. Could really do with jamie29k coming up with some new routes, BCN

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[Stewart28]

Has anyone heard if LDY will be coming back this winter.

[FR-]

Makes you wonder, we lost LDY to BHX. Back in the day of derry/berlin

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[OliWW]

I only know of 1 route FR are considering for the future and thats Madrid... but, they have been there, and done it... so I doubt it once again!

[INKJET]

Another Loco set to Wizz into EMA I hear!n

[j636]

They have 3 routes to Poland to start with and they may start VNO also.

FR try not to operate the same routes from BHX and EMA to eastren europe.

[Cazza_fly]

Another Loco set to Wizz into EMA I hear!n

Hasn't this rumour been doing the rounds for months now? If they were to come to EMA what routes could we see? There's not many other routes I can think of other than those already served to Poland and Eastern Europe from DSA and those already served at EMA by Ryanair that they could operate. If it were to happen though, id expect their operation over at DSA to be wound up, even though when I was last informed and saw the pax figures they were doing well in that area, perhaps they see a better potential in EMA despite the competition...

[ATNotts]

EMA needs another LoCo like it needs a hole in the head!

What EMA needs is a full service airline offering the business community in the region, that is supposed to be helping us export our way out of recession get into the export markets and sell!

That requires daily services to hubs such as AMS, FRA, MUC to make seamless connections - not cheap and cheerful, less than daily, point to point operations to obscure destinations to satisfy a bucket-and-spade and VFR market that is probably overserved already.

It's a shame that BMI, being part of Lufthansa haven't been permitted (perhaps don't want) to offer 2 x daily business services to FRA / MUC. If not them, then surely KLM could make a go of a feeder to AMS, as they have done at LPL.

[Facelookbovvered]

AT Notts

I thought baby did AMS twice a day? also I'm sure i read somewhere they were going year round to CGN and 4 days a week to MUC again year round?

As for Wizz if they were up against FR on Poland routes who would the (Polish community) travel with FR or Wizz, i know next to nothing about Wizz

[Cazza_fly]

I thought baby did AMS twice a day? also I'm sure i read somewhere they were going year round to CGN and 4 days a week to MUC again year round?

They do along with CDG and yes CGN will be going year round at upto 4x weekly. I believe ATNotts was probably meaning an airline that offers direct onward connections from these airports, although we have bmi regional to BRU for that 3x daily.

As for Wizz if they were up against FR on Poland routes who would the (Polish community) travel with FR or Wizz, i know next to nothing about Wizz

Both airlines are well known in Poland/Eastern Europe. In my opinion Ryanair offers better departure/arrival times to and from the UK compared to the majority of Wizz flights although the prices can be relatively similar between the two. If however you choose to check-in a bag (and polish ex-pats and visitors like to travel with LOTS of luggage) Wizzairs standard weight allowance is a whopping 32kg per bag compared to FRs standard 15kg. So if prices were similar most people would probably sway for the Wizz.

[airhumberside]

It's a shame that BMI, being part of Lufthansa haven't been permitted (perhaps don't want) to offer 2 x daily business services to FRA / MUC

See my post 2207, bmi regional have tried to get some FRA slots, but have been awarded some useless times, nothing like what they requested