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Blue Islands to Guernsey
Does anyone know anything about the new Blue Islands service down to Guernsey. It's supposed to start on June 1st but doesn't even appear to be bookable on their web site!
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Blue Islands to Guernsey
# 567 of 5 May in the Blue Islands thread suggests this has been shelved.
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Their website does appear to have been down for several days. Don't know the reason. If I find out I will PM you.
# 567 of 5 May in the Blue Islands thread suggests this has been shelved.
Biagrouponline
Their website does appear to have been down for several days. Don't know the reason. If I find out I will PM you.
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Hi everybody.
The website has been down for a few days as we have had some problems with the hosting company.
Hopefully the website will be back up this evening or tomorrow evening.
Thanks
BISON
The website has been down for a few days as we have had some problems with the hosting company.
Hopefully the website will be back up this evening or tomorrow evening.
Thanks
BISON
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Bristol Airport celebrates four years of US flights
20.05.09
Bristol Airport is celebrating the fourth anniversary of its connection to New York operated by Continental Airlines. The airport will mark the anniversary today by offering outbound passengers on the flights a variety of refreshments at the Seafood Bar, including Manhattan cocktails.
Continental's flights from Bristol to New York operate on a daily basis and have carried over 320,000 passengers since they were launched on May 20, 2005. The service is the only direct link to the US from south-west England and Wales, and as well as providing a connection to New York, it offer travellers the ability to catch onward flights across North America via Continental's hub at Newark Liberty Airport.
"Fingers crossed for many more years"
20.05.09
Bristol Airport is celebrating the fourth anniversary of its connection to New York operated by Continental Airlines. The airport will mark the anniversary today by offering outbound passengers on the flights a variety of refreshments at the Seafood Bar, including Manhattan cocktails.
Continental's flights from Bristol to New York operate on a daily basis and have carried over 320,000 passengers since they were launched on May 20, 2005. The service is the only direct link to the US from south-west England and Wales, and as well as providing a connection to New York, it offer travellers the ability to catch onward flights across North America via Continental's hub at Newark Liberty Airport.
"Fingers crossed for many more years"
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Just wandering if anyone has any news on how the airports "project middle east" or what ever it was called is going?
Obviously the pax numbers have declined this year but there are positives that would help the airport in securing a service, obviously 4 years successful service with CO daily EWR service, and now TOM operating SFB direct on 767, and higher pax throughput that NCL who have daily DXB, so if an airline had the right equipment we know the runway can provide for an 8.5-9 hour direct flight which would more than cover DXB. I'm guessing that EK with a B787 or A350 is looking more likely in a few years?
I dont believe EK have any B757s, was there a loco being set up in DXB I read about somewhere? flydubai.com or something??
Obviously the pax numbers have declined this year but there are positives that would help the airport in securing a service, obviously 4 years successful service with CO daily EWR service, and now TOM operating SFB direct on 767, and higher pax throughput that NCL who have daily DXB, so if an airline had the right equipment we know the runway can provide for an 8.5-9 hour direct flight which would more than cover DXB. I'm guessing that EK with a B787 or A350 is looking more likely in a few years?
I dont believe EK have any B757s, was there a loco being set up in DXB I read about somewhere? flydubai.com or something??
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The 787 would be the only a/c in the EK future fleet that would be able to fly the route due to the length of the runway.
I am even thinking a 757 may be pushed in the summer months from DXB as the heat would use a lot of fuel! Please correct me if I am wrong.
I doubt EK will be around any time soon. If the SFB flights are on a 767 I cannot see why an A330 wouldn't be able to make the trip but I am not very technologically informed about a/c performance and you may have just seen!
Would think it would work from BRS though!
I am even thinking a 757 may be pushed in the summer months from DXB as the heat would use a lot of fuel! Please correct me if I am wrong.
I doubt EK will be around any time soon. If the SFB flights are on a 767 I cannot see why an A330 wouldn't be able to make the trip but I am not very technologically informed about a/c performance and you may have just seen!
Would think it would work from BRS though!
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Last A330 in BRS was Aer Lingus about 2006 for a rugby charter, had to back track a tad after landing due to taxiway obstacles if i remember correctly, obviously had no performance issues as it only came and went DUB with no luggage. I would think any small obsatcles could be dealt with and moved for wing tip clearence purposes, not sure how it would deal with a full pax load fuel and bags and BRS short runway, i'm sure one of the regular BRS techies might shed some light, do EK have any 767's? If TOM can manage SFB then DXB would be fine on 767 I'd guess?
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EK don't have any 767s. The "smallest" aircraft they operate is the 330. Also, I understand that hold cargo is a big earner for them and given the runway limitations at BRS, this would probably make it non-starter with their current equipment.
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I am surprised about the EK 330, I thought Bristol's runway would be fine for a flight to Dubai? The 330 has excellent performance, can someone clear up whether or not it would be feasible for an EK 330 service at Bristol. I would expect Edinburgh and Stansted to be higher on EK's list of UK priorities, but you never know.
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I think Stansted would be nearer the bottom of their list. Currently I think an unofficial list of top 3 would be LTN, EDI and DUB with the latter being the more likely.
I like how EK nearly always seem to start a route with the A330, dependant on the range etc. and then build it up. MAN started with 3x weekly A310 and now has twice daily 77Ws.
I'm not trying to rub it in to BRS users but I am just saying that EK seem to know what they are doing and it is a shame that unless the runway is extended and EK make a large expansion in the UK, it will probably never grace the slippery runway down in the South West...
I like how EK nearly always seem to start a route with the A330, dependant on the range etc. and then build it up. MAN started with 3x weekly A310 and now has twice daily 77Ws.
I'm not trying to rub it in to BRS users
but I am just saying that EK seem to know what they are doing and it is a shame that unless the runway is extended and EK make a large expansion in the UK, it will probably never grace the slippery runway down in the South West...
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I think the BRS management team is one of the most able from a commercial standpoint with realistic expectations and in their master plan (detailed until 2015 and in outline until 2030) they say that there are about four long haul scheduled routes they consider viable from Bristol - New York (already flown), Washington, another US destination which they think would probably be Atlanta and Dubai.
The master plan makes great play about the B 787 being capable of flying these routes without load penalty, but that presumes an airline will fly to Dubai with a 787 sometime in the future and that it will also choose to fly from Bristol. BRS management says a runway extension is not necessary because it is believed the cost and environmental disruption would far outweigh any operational benefit given the type of aircraft likely to come into service over the next decade.
The master plan forecasts 120,000 passengers per annum to Dubai at 2015 growing to 140,000 at 2030.
Clearly Emirates would be near the top of their list because of its interlining capability but as Dubai's hedonistic attractions multiply who is to say it will not eventually become a destination with direct links from around the UK and elsewhere?
BTW, is the runway still slippery then? I thought that had mainly to do with the time it was being resurfaced.
The master plan makes great play about the B 787 being capable of flying these routes without load penalty, but that presumes an airline will fly to Dubai with a 787 sometime in the future and that it will also choose to fly from Bristol. BRS management says a runway extension is not necessary because it is believed the cost and environmental disruption would far outweigh any operational benefit given the type of aircraft likely to come into service over the next decade.
The master plan forecasts 120,000 passengers per annum to Dubai at 2015 growing to 140,000 at 2030.
Clearly Emirates would be near the top of their list because of its interlining capability but as Dubai's hedonistic attractions multiply who is to say it will not eventually become a destination with direct links from around the UK and elsewhere?
BTW, is the runway still slippery then? I thought that had mainly to do with the time it was being resurfaced.
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I hear stories of a new ASW ex BRS. Any info out there
it really wouldnt surprise me to be honest, i know for a fact from press articles from the time of the NQY/PLH-LCY launch that they are looking to expand so new routes for PLH, NQY and BRS i would guess would be coming sooner rather than later.
i cant however suggest if any new BRS routes would be a direct BRS - xxx route or another of the current routes ie NQY-BRS-MAN etc etc ?
however BRS no longer has a based dh8-300 as these are now PLH x3 and NQY x2
more rumours on this and other sites of fleet expansion, they are currently using a s2000 to cover for mx on the dash and again the rumours are doing the rounds of an easten s2000 joining the fleet but who knows till it happens!
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Emirates have been badly hit by the downturn and have a rather large fleet of A380s to fill somehow. Not sure if fragmenting the UK market by serving STN and BRS as well is in tune with the current issues.
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I agree that BRS has a good commercial plannng team, although I dont think Washington would work as it doesnt even work from Manchester and is only served from London. Maybe one of the Middle Eastern carriers could try BRS via XXX to either AUH / DOH or DXB in the next few years
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The airport has finally submitted the full planning application to BANES Council. The airport now aims to finish the work by 2019, as that is now the year they predict 10 million pax per annum. Glad to see things are moving forward!
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Bristolflyer, I believe the airport as far as i know is under North Somerset council, Banes is next door(Bath, Radstock, Keynsham areas).
Air France have recently upgraded aircraft size to AT72 from ATR42, route must be doing nicely for them, good to see.
Air France have recently upgraded aircraft size to AT72 from ATR42, route must be doing nicely for them, good to see.
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BRS major expansion plans
It is North Somerset Council, although you'd be pushed to tell the difference as neither they nor B&NES are particularly supportive of the airport.
As bristolflyer points out, the planning applications have finally been submitted - over three years later than the timetable in the original master plan that was published in early 2006.
The computer generated graphics video of the proposals show a superb facility that I believe is estimated at around £150 million to build.
Press reports say the plans are designed to enable the airport to handle 10mppa by 2016, although a local tv report I saw suggested that the airport now believes that 2019 is more likely which confirms bristolflyer's post. The aim is to build in stages as passenger numbers increase.
It seems certain that North Somerset will not have the final say. If the planning applications are not called in for a public enquiry there will undoubtedly be appeals against the council's decision, whether by the airport or the objectors, depending which way the council comes down. There could also be applications for a judicial review on any decision the secretary of state might make after a public enquiry.
A planning expert on the local telly news this evening reckons the planning process might drag out for up to four years.
At least the current drop in passenger numbers will give a bit more breathing space and the western walkway should be completed by next March (general permitted development) which will also help the passenger experience a bit. I note some of the stands on the western apron have been re-positioned to face north, presumably to fit in with the walkway. I read a report that the walkway is to cost over £7 million.
So the whistle has been blown and the game finally started...........................
As bristolflyer points out, the planning applications have finally been submitted - over three years later than the timetable in the original master plan that was published in early 2006.
The computer generated graphics video of the proposals show a superb facility that I believe is estimated at around £150 million to build.
Press reports say the plans are designed to enable the airport to handle 10mppa by 2016, although a local tv report I saw suggested that the airport now believes that 2019 is more likely which confirms bristolflyer's post. The aim is to build in stages as passenger numbers increase.
It seems certain that North Somerset will not have the final say. If the planning applications are not called in for a public enquiry there will undoubtedly be appeals against the council's decision, whether by the airport or the objectors, depending which way the council comes down. There could also be applications for a judicial review on any decision the secretary of state might make after a public enquiry.
A planning expert on the local telly news this evening reckons the planning process might drag out for up to four years.
At least the current drop in passenger numbers will give a bit more breathing space and the western walkway should be completed by next March (general permitted development) which will also help the passenger experience a bit. I note some of the stands on the western apron have been re-positioned to face north, presumably to fit in with the walkway. I read a report that the walkway is to cost over £7 million.
So the whistle has been blown and the game finally started...........................
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All the Western Apron stands will be facing north before long although from what I believe, they are temporary markings and when the walkway is finished, they will be re-marked.
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Air France have recently upgraded aircraft size to AT72 from ATR42, route must be doing nicely for them, good to see.
Tonight F 100, F-GNLG, is slumbering quietly on stand 12, having operated the last inbound GDG of the day, enjoying a good night's rest in the mountain air in preparation for taking the first outbound in the morning, according to the BRS apron website.
Route can't be doing that well, can it?
