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Loads are variable with FR at the moment. Have been as few as 20 on LDY but they are tending to be between the 60-90 mark on the daily flights (LDY and BGY) and 100-120 on the less frequent flights. DUB and SNN are still way ahead in consistant full loads than the others but there are 186 on tomorrows BUD (picking up the weekend break and stag party trafic).
EZY MXP is also frequently experiencing lower than usual loads (around 60-80 on some flights) but that will probably pick up when ski season starts
EZY MXP is also frequently experiencing lower than usual loads (around 60-80 on some flights) but that will probably pick up when ski season starts
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It looks like the new pax walkway project is about to start, the surveying is done, rumour has it that the ASU building will have to go to make way for it, ASU to be relocated to the Fire Section again, thanks for all the hard work chaps!
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BRS is still open!
Aircraft not skidding off the runway in this wet and windy weather!
The (Terminal 2) circus tent makes me laugh every time I walk past it. I see it is held down well with covered concrete blocks.
I do feel sorry for the architect that designed the terminal as it is really turning into a cattle shed. I have not seen the plans for the new apron walkway, but it sounds like it will be a monstrosity.
Ah well that’s progress down ‘ere at Lulsgate Bottom International
...Any Indian flights in the pipeline? Must be a market ? Remember the old PAT Goa flights via a sandpit
Aircraft not skidding off the runway in this wet and windy weather!
The (Terminal 2) circus tent makes me laugh every time I walk past it. I see it is held down well with covered concrete blocks.
I do feel sorry for the architect that designed the terminal as it is really turning into a cattle shed. I have not seen the plans for the new apron walkway, but it sounds like it will be a monstrosity.
Ah well that’s progress down ‘ere at Lulsgate Bottom International
...Any Indian flights in the pipeline? Must be a market ? Remember the old PAT Goa flights via a sandpit
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New Routes
easyJet booking engine now showing Olbia (Tues, Thurs and Sat), Split (Wed and Sat) and Biarritz (Mon, Wed, Fri and Sun) for the main summer 2008 season.
A brief look at the rest of the timetable shows it broadly the same as summer 2007, as far as I can see, except Rijeka seems to have been chopped.
A brief look at the rest of the timetable shows it broadly the same as summer 2007, as far as I can see, except Rijeka seems to have been chopped.
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Does anyone know whether the SPU route on EZY is replacing the Reijka flight?
Used it a few times visiting family in Istria and although Pula would be ideal at least it is/was better than nothing!
Would have through Pula might have been mentioned seen as though Thomson have cancelled the Tues charter...and SPU is covered with the Holiday Options charter. Do with think the fact that EXT has a Dubrovnik flight with BE, is one of the reasons Easy went to Split instead???
Nice to see Croatia back on the map!
Used it a few times visiting family in Istria and although Pula would be ideal at least it is/was better than nothing!
Would have through Pula might have been mentioned seen as though Thomson have cancelled the Tues charter...and SPU is covered with the Holiday Options charter. Do with think the fact that EXT has a Dubrovnik flight with BE, is one of the reasons Easy went to Split instead???
Nice to see Croatia back on the map!
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anyone got any info on knock loads!
Anyone working at BRS feeling a bit perplexed by Managair 3. I have just spent all day feeling a bit lost and even the simplest jobs are now a bit of an effort
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Does anyone know whether the SPU route on EZY is replacing the Reijka flight?
The full summer charter programme is not shown on the BRS website yet so I don’t know whether anyone else will take on the Pula route next summer. If
RJK is really gone there certainly seems a gap in that part of the peninsula.
Olbia is a welcome addition because the weekly summer charter flight to Sardinia did not operate in summer 07.
It seems that France might join Poland to become something of a battleground between easyJet and Ryanair with the former announcing Biarritz soon after FR announced 3 new French routes of its own for next summer.
Next summer I make it easyJet will be serving Paris CDG (12 x weekly), Biarritz (4 weekly), Bordeaux (7 weekly), La Rochelle (3 weekly), Nice (10 weekly), Marseille (3 weekly) and Toulouse (7 weekly), and FR will fly to Bergerac, Beziers, Pau and Dinard (all 3 x weekly).
If AF continues its 18 x weekly to CDG, plus the possible return of Aer Arann to Nantes (2 x weekly in summer 07), there will be a veritable procession of aircraft plying to and from Gallic airports.
The current near direct head-to-head (Milan) might seem a surprise choice.
When easyJet replaced BACon on the MXP in April this year, the route did not immediately catch on in terms of loads in the way many of that airline’s new routes from BRS have done in the past.
The best month so far has been August (7,200 pax ) with a 75% load factor on the 156-seat A319. Most months have been in the range 6,000-6,500 so it will be intriguing to see how FR’s BGY route affects this.
At present both airlines’ summer 08 timetables indicate the maintenance of a daily schedule on the two routes. This is a lot of seats to fill (a total of 690 daily) when one considers that BACon carried only around 23,000 pax on its 100 daily MXP seats in its last full calendar year on the route (2006).
anyone got any info on knock loads!
When FR started its daily BRS-SNN at the end of October 2005 average monthly loads for the winter months that followed were about 100-110, but 95,000 pax were carried in the whole of 2006 and 2007 is already 5-6% ahead of this figure so around 100,000 ought to be the final annual total.
If Knock is starting slowly, as BRS_flyer seems to be indicating, well it is November and it can be seen that SNN was not brilliant at first at the same time of the year.
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Connecting into Bristol (long haul)
Just been attempting to book DXB/BRS/DXB via FRA in May to give it a try.
LH website comes back with about £3675 what ever day in May, I chose! Over 3 times AF/KLM over CDG/AMS which in turn is about 1.5 times more expensive as EK or BA to LHR.
Using Opodo the pricing a bit more sensible, but in every case flying to BRS (near to my home in Cidershire) is at least 1.5 times more expensive than a direct to horrible Heathrow. Its materially cheaper to get my local taxi to / from LHR than use BRS.
I'd love to use BRS for a miriad of reasons, why is it so expensive to change at AMS/CDG/FRA? Its not as if I'm travelling tomorrow.
In the Middle East its usually cheaper to travel via an intermediate point, not it seems in Europe (well at least where BRS is concerned).
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LH website comes back with about £3675 what ever day in May, I chose! Over 3 times AF/KLM over CDG/AMS which in turn is about 1.5 times more expensive as EK or BA to LHR.
Using Opodo the pricing a bit more sensible, but in every case flying to BRS (near to my home in Cidershire) is at least 1.5 times more expensive than a direct to horrible Heathrow. Its materially cheaper to get my local taxi to / from LHR than use BRS.
I'd love to use BRS for a miriad of reasons, why is it so expensive to change at AMS/CDG/FRA? Its not as if I'm travelling tomorrow.
In the Middle East its usually cheaper to travel via an intermediate point, not it seems in Europe (well at least where BRS is concerned).
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Pandy,
There seems to be a bug in the LH pricing engine. I was looking at BRS-FRA-SIN (and return), and it kept returning D/C class fares of about £3,500 - £4,000 and highlighting those in yellow as the cheapest available fare.
However, a quick dip into expertflyer revealed availability in Z class (which is LH's discount biz class bucket), which the website wasn't showing. (Indeed, none of them seemed to be showing).
I rang LH, specified the itinerary segment by segment, and asked them to specifically price it against a Z class fare - and it came back at just about £2,000 (inc all taxes).
Part of me thinks it's a shame it isn't working right, because LH are capable of quite good biz class fares. The other half me of wonders if I should keep quiet to preserve availability.
(NB - IIRC Z class fares can't be combined with C and D class fares, so if any one segment doesn't have Z avails, the whole itinerary must be priced at C/D. BRS-FRA has masses of Z avails, so check the FRA-DXB-FRA segments).
There seems to be a bug in the LH pricing engine. I was looking at BRS-FRA-SIN (and return), and it kept returning D/C class fares of about £3,500 - £4,000 and highlighting those in yellow as the cheapest available fare.
However, a quick dip into expertflyer revealed availability in Z class (which is LH's discount biz class bucket), which the website wasn't showing. (Indeed, none of them seemed to be showing).
I rang LH, specified the itinerary segment by segment, and asked them to specifically price it against a Z class fare - and it came back at just about £2,000 (inc all taxes).
Part of me thinks it's a shame it isn't working right, because LH are capable of quite good biz class fares. The other half me of wonders if I should keep quiet to preserve availability.
(NB - IIRC Z class fares can't be combined with C and D class fares, so if any one segment doesn't have Z avails, the whole itinerary must be priced at C/D. BRS-FRA has masses of Z avails, so check the FRA-DXB-FRA segments).
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Thanks for this BT.
Must be something seriously wrong with LH 's system as I'm paying for this trip personally, so its Economy all the way, £3675!!
Or EK to LHR £360, ten times less!! KL & AF to BRS are about 1.5 to 2 times more than EK to LHR............grrrr
Must be something seriously wrong with LH 's system as I'm paying for this trip personally, so its Economy all the way, £3675!!
Or EK to LHR £360, ten times less!! KL & AF to BRS are about 1.5 to 2 times more than EK to LHR............grrrr
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Fare Pricing Bugs ex BRS
Pandy, sweet home ncl
I've just picked some random dates in May on expertflyer to look at ex-BRS fares. (All trips 7 days, including SA night away).
BRS-FRA-DXB-FRA-BRS - from £186 + TAXes.
Outbound: LH4965 / LH630
Inbound: LH631 / LH4960
Fare basis: WLNNGB
NCL-DUS-FRA-YYZ-DUS-NCL - from £372 + TAXes
Outbound: LH4951 / LH811 / LH9626 (op by AC)
This is a bit of a fuss - the connection between at DUS is not met (connection time is 25 minutes, MCT is 35 minutes).
The preferred routing is via DUS-FRA-YYZ
Inbound: LH471 / LH4950
Fare basis: VKXNCGBW
I would suggest calling LH on the phone (0870 837 7737) and tell them to look for the appropriate class availability on those flights, and price it against those fare basis.
I'l drop an e-mail to LH CS and let them know that their website is conspiring against them...
I've just picked some random dates in May on expertflyer to look at ex-BRS fares. (All trips 7 days, including SA night away).
BRS-FRA-DXB-FRA-BRS - from £186 + TAXes.
Outbound: LH4965 / LH630
Inbound: LH631 / LH4960
Fare basis: WLNNGB
NCL-DUS-FRA-YYZ-DUS-NCL - from £372 + TAXes
Outbound: LH4951 / LH811 / LH9626 (op by AC)
This is a bit of a fuss - the connection between at DUS is not met (connection time is 25 minutes, MCT is 35 minutes).
The preferred routing is via DUS-FRA-YYZ
Inbound: LH471 / LH4950
Fare basis: VKXNCGBW
I would suggest calling LH on the phone (0870 837 7737) and tell them to look for the appropriate class availability on those flights, and price it against those fare basis.
I'l drop an e-mail to LH CS and let them know that their website is conspiring against them...
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Why not try:
BRS-MAN Air Southwest
MAN-DXB Emirates?
BRS-MAN Air Southwest
MAN-DXB Emirates?
(Looking at the current ASW schedule, you'd have a 6 hour layover on the way out, and 3.5 hours on the way back).
There is a decent LH fare now showing on the website (£422.30 including taxes).
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It would be worth it though for the EK experience. With the 773ER it really does make flying a treat.
Unfortuntely, most MAN flights to the East (EY,QR,SQ and EK) all ways seem to be full due to connections etc. Thats why I believe that CX at MAN would be better than Oasis due to the available connections. Anyway, thats for another thread!
Unfortuntely, most MAN flights to the East (EY,QR,SQ and EK) all ways seem to be full due to connections etc. Thats why I believe that CX at MAN would be better than Oasis due to the available connections. Anyway, thats for another thread!