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MV - Continental has announced LHR services from 2008 http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...15112007-1.htm
Won't this mean creaming off passengers from LGW, rather than BRS, even though CO will serve EWR and IAH from both London airports?
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Won't this mean creaming off passengers from LGW, rather than BRS, even though CO will serve EWR and IAH from both London airports?
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Interesting information but I assume that in the short-term there
is nothing to worry about especially if the figures start to hit the
9000 mark consistently and sufficient full fare business pax are
using the service. I assume for commercial reasons that kind
of information is not known? Although on another forum I did see
the BHX service losses posted when it was briefly double daily a
few years ago.
On an unrelated matter, with EK's success in the UK how does Bristol's
runway fit in with say a 332 or even a 350 service in the future?
I trust that there would be payload restrictions such as cargo?
I know this has been discussed to death before but is there any
recent talk of EK from the South West or Wales?
Having used EK from BHX I would not say they are
"the be all and end all" of an airlines but certainly one that
Bristol & Cardiff would want to woo at some point?
Pete
Interesting information but I assume that in the short-term there
is nothing to worry about especially if the figures start to hit the
9000 mark consistently and sufficient full fare business pax are
using the service. I assume for commercial reasons that kind
of information is not known? Although on another forum I did see
the BHX service losses posted when it was briefly double daily a
few years ago.
On an unrelated matter, with EK's success in the UK how does Bristol's
runway fit in with say a 332 or even a 350 service in the future?
I trust that there would be payload restrictions such as cargo?
I know this has been discussed to death before but is there any
recent talk of EK from the South West or Wales?
Having used EK from BHX I would not say they are
"the be all and end all" of an airlines but certainly one that
Bristol & Cardiff would want to woo at some point?
Pete
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Hello Pete,
You're right about commercial confidentiality and of course this is entirely understandable and right. There were rumours in the early days of the route that the business/first held up well when economy was sometimes disappointing.
I occasionally look at the seat selector, not a definitive tool I know, and the business/first seats invariably seem well filled. My son has used the route several times in the front cabin and says it is usually well patronised, but whether by full-fare pax is not known of course.
As for A330s etc at BRS, there are other posters on here whose work would make them far more competent to answer this than me.
I am aware that the parallel taxiway cannot take anything as wide as a 330 because of wing overhang across the fence of the adjoining public road and they have to backtrack the main runway. The last 330 I can remember was an Aer Lingus in 2006 with a rugby charter.
The BRS master plan says long haul scheduled routes would have limited demand from the airport (because of the proximity of LHR) and cites only four destinations it thinks would be viable, one being Dubai. It forecasts that it will carry 120,000 pax per annum on this route by 2015.
It has to find a carrier first though and the master plan also says that the only aircraft that could operate long haul off the present runway are Boeing 757-200, 767-300, 737-700ER, and 787, and Airbus 319, 330-200 and 350.
It adds the rider that some of these aircraft and/or routes would be payload restricted.
BRS is pinning its current hopes on the B 787 which could operate all of the airport's identified l/h scheduled routes without load penalty according to information Boeing have given the airport.
There are rumours from time to time about EK at CWL and BRS and one would assume CWL would be more likely because it can accommodate a 330 more easilyand I guess fly to Dubai with a full payload.
My daughter is currently flying to Melbourne from Manchester with Emirates. They had a two-hour delay at MAN (she said it would be a 777) last night but were looked after very well with a meal voucher, even for so short a delay.
However, I notice her onward aircraft from DXB (a 340, I think) is currently showing a 12-hour delay which is a bit of a pain. I shall be very interested to learn how Emirates handled that.
You're right about commercial confidentiality and of course this is entirely understandable and right. There were rumours in the early days of the route that the business/first held up well when economy was sometimes disappointing.
I occasionally look at the seat selector, not a definitive tool I know, and the business/first seats invariably seem well filled. My son has used the route several times in the front cabin and says it is usually well patronised, but whether by full-fare pax is not known of course.
As for A330s etc at BRS, there are other posters on here whose work would make them far more competent to answer this than me.
I am aware that the parallel taxiway cannot take anything as wide as a 330 because of wing overhang across the fence of the adjoining public road and they have to backtrack the main runway. The last 330 I can remember was an Aer Lingus in 2006 with a rugby charter.
The BRS master plan says long haul scheduled routes would have limited demand from the airport (because of the proximity of LHR) and cites only four destinations it thinks would be viable, one being Dubai. It forecasts that it will carry 120,000 pax per annum on this route by 2015.
It has to find a carrier first though and the master plan also says that the only aircraft that could operate long haul off the present runway are Boeing 757-200, 767-300, 737-700ER, and 787, and Airbus 319, 330-200 and 350.
It adds the rider that some of these aircraft and/or routes would be payload restricted.
BRS is pinning its current hopes on the B 787 which could operate all of the airport's identified l/h scheduled routes without load penalty according to information Boeing have given the airport.
There are rumours from time to time about EK at CWL and BRS and one would assume CWL would be more likely because it can accommodate a 330 more easilyand I guess fly to Dubai with a full payload.
My daughter is currently flying to Melbourne from Manchester with Emirates. They had a two-hour delay at MAN (she said it would be a 777) last night but were looked after very well with a meal voucher, even for so short a delay.
However, I notice her onward aircraft from DXB (a 340, I think) is currently showing a 12-hour delay which is a bit of a pain. I shall be very interested to learn how Emirates handled that.
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The last time the A330 came to Brs, it landed on R/W 27 and taxied off at the end and followed the taxiway back to the eastern apron and did not have to backtrack on 27
The last time the A330 came to Brs, it landed on R/W 27 and taxied off at the end and followed the taxiway back to the eastern apron and did not have to backtrack on 27
Manufacturers brochure performance is nearly always optimistic. I'd be suprised if 787 operations INTO and out of BRS ever prove commercially viable.
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I am interested as to why you make that assumption? If the B767 and COB757 can operate, I dont see why the B787 couldn't? BRS would need a few alterations to accomodate but these would be minimal. The demand will certainly be there!
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In regards to the Emirates posts.
I recently met a member of senior staff at the airport regarding a project i am working on, and i asked him about the possibility of Emirates at Bristol, and i was told that it was pretty much off of the table. And wont be looked at for some time yet.
Quite interesting as i thought it could be a good route, even if flown once a week.
I recently met a member of senior staff at the airport regarding a project i am working on, and i asked him about the possibility of Emirates at Bristol, and i was told that it was pretty much off of the table. And wont be looked at for some time yet.
Quite interesting as i thought it could be a good route, even if flown once a week.
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Cannot see EK only wanting to do a once weekly service, it would need to be at least 4 times weekly as most passengers are connecting and once a weekly wouldn't really increase revenue like other routes would.
With only a 6,598ft runway, can the airport support a fully laden A330 with cargo etc for the 7h 30m flight?
Would CWF be better for the airline?
Can see the region getting a route soon to the region and EK seems most likely. These airports are designed perfectly for the 787 (but don't tell EK that - GO A350!
) HEY! What about if GLO has a runway extension...what?! It works for M2!
With only a 6,598ft runway, can the airport support a fully laden A330 with cargo etc for the 7h 30m flight?
Would CWF be better for the airline?
Can see the region getting a route soon to the region and EK seems most likely. These airports are designed perfectly for the 787 (but don't tell EK that - GO A350!
) HEY! What about if GLO has a runway extension...what?! It works for M2!
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Great radio coverage of Bristol International on 'five live' this morning, promoting the scheduled services of Continental, Air France, KLM, Lufthansa and SAS. Interviewer stated that its pleasing to see a regional airport punching above its weight and the airport's development director highlighted the reducing need to fly from Heathrow for business traffic as a result of the dramatic growth in scheduled services from Bristol over the last few years.
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hi guys, im travelling to swindon for a job interview soon, and want to fly into bristol. can anyone advise me of how/how easy it is to get from bristol international to swindon by public transport?
thanks
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Easy.
2 options using Flyer ( Airport operated ) coach service to Bristol Temple Meads then First Great Western train direct to Swindon.
1) Buy tickets on line at thetrainline.com booking through trip from airport to
Swindon. Tickets will need to be sent to your home address . The tickets can then be presented to the coach driver and at the train station. Peak frequency is every 15 minutes from outside arrivals - journey time min 20 - max 30 unless there is a crash on the road etc. Train is every 30 mins to Swindon from BTM and takes approx 40-50 minutes.
2) Just turn up at airport and buy ticket for the coach journey and then another ticket from the train station. Then same as above .
If you are very lucky you could do it an hour !
Best of luck with the job.
Easy.
2 options using Flyer ( Airport operated ) coach service to Bristol Temple Meads then First Great Western train direct to Swindon.
1) Buy tickets on line at thetrainline.com booking through trip from airport to
Swindon. Tickets will need to be sent to your home address . The tickets can then be presented to the coach driver and at the train station. Peak frequency is every 15 minutes from outside arrivals - journey time min 20 - max 30 unless there is a crash on the road etc. Train is every 30 mins to Swindon from BTM and takes approx 40-50 minutes.
2) Just turn up at airport and buy ticket for the coach journey and then another ticket from the train station. Then same as above .
If you are very lucky you could do it an hour !
Best of luck with the job.
Flown the Bristol to Derry twice and it was full the first trip and about 2/3-3/4 full the second. Also, tried booking Bristol to Derry on 27th Dec and it's sold out. No idea about Knock.
That's hardly unusual for the first few months of a new route. When RYR started out of EMA and LIV to LDY loads were pretty dire at first, but they have all picked up to over 100 on average now. Bristol will probably be the same.