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I've heard the same, from numerous numerous sources, and I left the company a year ago!!
Could they move some Airbus down from LHR to LGW to help the transition? Or would BA skippers fly GB planes if there is a shortfall of skippers?
Interesting times ahead for ya's,..........
Still cant book a Gib-Madrid flight yet. I hear nightstops starting in May, with a base opening in Sept. FlyGib will only exist on paper by the year end,.... they can get an AOC but no aircraft!!
Could they move some Airbus down from LHR to LGW to help the transition? Or would BA skippers fly GB planes if there is a shortfall of skippers?
Interesting times ahead for ya's,..........
Still cant book a Gib-Madrid flight yet. I hear nightstops starting in May, with a base opening in Sept. FlyGib will only exist on paper by the year end,.... they can get an AOC but no aircraft!!
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I'm talking about the amount of 737's actually BASED there! Comes from BA engineers themselves. There would be nowhere to park these antiquated aircraft at LGW. Sorry guys, face up to reality...... BA shorthaul at LGW is history.
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Given strong views expressed (and negative ones at that ) abt BA SHL @ LGW ,I have to say I am really surprised @ apparent lack of knowledge ,Memphisbelle appears to have of BA's Operation @ LGW !
BA do have 33 737s dedicated and based @ LGW...10 x 735s,5 X 733s and 19 734s. They don-t op anywhere else other than to/from LGW.
IF you get hold of a BA Timetable ( hard these days ) or look at the T/table on BA.com you can work this out yrself.
11 a/c nightstop away fm base every night @ ABZ,EDI,GLA,MAN,JER,NCL AMS, BLQ ,GVA,MRS,and TLS.These operate the 1st flight of the day fm
these cities to LGW. It takes a further 16 or 17 a/c to op the 1st wavw of
departurers fm LGW between 0625 and 0800 in the morning.
Add in a/c on maintainence and standbys and you-ve got yr 33 a/c.
Given that the operation is nearly three times as big as you seemed to think , I think this undermines yr authority to express some of the views you do . Seems like based on emotion rather than facts.
I don-t know who the BA engineers are who told you there are only 12 a/c based @ LGW- they are either giving you duff gen or they can-t count !
BA do have 33 737s dedicated and based @ LGW...10 x 735s,5 X 733s and 19 734s. They don-t op anywhere else other than to/from LGW.
IF you get hold of a BA Timetable ( hard these days ) or look at the T/table on BA.com you can work this out yrself.
11 a/c nightstop away fm base every night @ ABZ,EDI,GLA,MAN,JER,NCL AMS, BLQ ,GVA,MRS,and TLS.These operate the 1st flight of the day fm
these cities to LGW. It takes a further 16 or 17 a/c to op the 1st wavw of
departurers fm LGW between 0625 and 0800 in the morning.
Add in a/c on maintainence and standbys and you-ve got yr 33 a/c.
Given that the operation is nearly three times as big as you seemed to think , I think this undermines yr authority to express some of the views you do . Seems like based on emotion rather than facts.
I don-t know who the BA engineers are who told you there are only 12 a/c based @ LGW- they are either giving you duff gen or they can-t count !
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Nine additional aircraft, at say a modest five crews per aircraft, would mean an additonal forty five crews or ninety pilots!
If it is to be announced on 1st March then when will this massive (recruitment) expansion begin? Or has a deal been struck that will allow BA (airbus) crews to be temporarily seconded to GB.
Probably.
If it is to be announced on 1st March then when will this massive (recruitment) expansion begin? Or has a deal been struck that will allow BA (airbus) crews to be temporarily seconded to GB.
Probably.
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Thats interesting as havent heard that from engineers but have heard GB want to do their own thing. Regarding SH @lgw GB cannot operate on a Mainline route their is a clause between the pilots for BA (balpa) and BA . The other thing is ba wouldnt give up all those slots at LGW if they did easyjet would go head to head with lhr on routes !
Interesting though that GB handling contract with BA (new contract) only 14months until April 2008
Interesting though that GB handling contract with BA (new contract) only 14months until April 2008
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Errr... let's go a couple of years back.
How do you think Easy got so big, so quickly at LGW??
Nothing to do with BA chucking in a load of slots back into the pot when most of the longhaul disappeared?? Not passing them to GB for example to help protect LHR and LGW from Easy.
From what I am hearing... longhaul and domestic LGW will remain. Both crewed from elsewhere. Alot of the remaining routes will be completely dumped, and a select few will be taken over by GB. Probably why they have just recruited 40+ new F/O's.
Don't be nieve and think just because you are 'mainline' (after all the years of LHR completely disowning you) that you will have any protection. That would be incredibly short sighted. Things are changing - even at mainline!
How do you think Easy got so big, so quickly at LGW??
Nothing to do with BA chucking in a load of slots back into the pot when most of the longhaul disappeared?? Not passing them to GB for example to help protect LHR and LGW from Easy.
From what I am hearing... longhaul and domestic LGW will remain. Both crewed from elsewhere. Alot of the remaining routes will be completely dumped, and a select few will be taken over by GB. Probably why they have just recruited 40+ new F/O's.
Don't be nieve and think just because you are 'mainline' (after all the years of LHR completely disowning you) that you will have any protection. That would be incredibly short sighted. Things are changing - even at mainline!
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Lets not forget that a lot of the 737's are due to be returned to the leasing co's next year...around the time of T5. Some of them will be 20 years old!! (i.e 737-300 G-LGTI) to name but one... and there are NOT a lot of spare new(er) aircraft around.... even to replace the A320-100's that B.A mainline are removing from service at LHR.....so it is no wonder that we are making educated guesses about the shape of LGW next year.
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Brace, Brace, Brace...
A330 for LGW Longhaul and A319 for LGW short-haul incl domestic... Maybe giving the whole LGW operation to GB, maybe not...
(Makes a bit of sence since T5 LHR is going to be 'containerised for all luggage' - A319s are not containerised)
Cabin crew already 'Mid-fleet' at LGW and the flightdeck would be next, flying both types - not entirely impossible
GB Airways will 'inherit' A319s from 'up the road' LHR, and BA Mainline will take GBs A320s and position them at LHR
I have heard this line of thought from various people, from LHR and LGW both ground and aircrew alike...
Lets see what 01MAR GB announcement brings
A330 for LGW Longhaul and A319 for LGW short-haul incl domestic... Maybe giving the whole LGW operation to GB, maybe not...
(Makes a bit of sence since T5 LHR is going to be 'containerised for all luggage' - A319s are not containerised)
Cabin crew already 'Mid-fleet' at LGW and the flightdeck would be next, flying both types - not entirely impossible
GB Airways will 'inherit' A319s from 'up the road' LHR, and BA Mainline will take GBs A320s and position them at LHR
I have heard this line of thought from various people, from LHR and LGW both ground and aircrew alike...
Lets see what 01MAR GB announcement brings
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A bit like GB airways extended the lease on G-TTOA???!!! I don't think so.... BA doesn't generally keep a/c past 20 years, the interiors of the 737's are scruffy and are having only minimal work.... lets remember, it's the leasing company that owns the aircraft. NOT BA.!!! any lease extension would need agreement from BOTH sides (see G -TTOA as above, SIX YEARS or NOWT!!) Nice thought about the A319 fleet, but have a look at the MTOW / RANGE, how does that fit for SSH, Canaries?? Interesting that BA have placed an order for 4 more A320's... but are retiring 5 (G-Bus*) A320-100's and the remaining Caledonian batch that are A320-200's are also approaching twenty years old... So if we do our sums, that's 10 A320's; 33 737's and probably 12 767's all for the scrap yard in the next few years... Thats a LOT of Metal to replace.