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ive heard that bfs is the favourite for the ei management.
can anyone tell me anything regarding the construction work at bfs? What's all happening? Are they rebuilding the viewing gallery our building a new lounge?
I don't think Ryanair will get into belfast at all, if they came into bhd I don't know how they'd cope in terms of space. If it somehow does go ahead then surely flybe will get the boot up the a*s they deserve.
If they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake
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That would leave Ryanair and easyjet sluggin' it out on the lpl and brs flights. Don't ask me who'd win that I don't know!
can anyone tell me anything regarding the construction work at bfs? What's all happening? Are they rebuilding the viewing gallery our building a new lounge?
I don't think Ryanair will get into belfast at all, if they came into bhd I don't know how they'd cope in terms of space. If it somehow does go ahead then surely flybe will get the boot up the a*s they deserve.
If they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake
.That would leave Ryanair and easyjet sluggin' it out on the lpl and brs flights. Don't ask me who'd win that I don't know!
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BHDFLYER,
Re:"they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake."
I dont think bmi think they made a mistake, the plans short term are to finish the 10 year deal made with BHD.
But that being said it doesn't stop them operating out of both!
After all they will need feeds for the Long haul out of LHR from March08!
rgds
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Re:"they came into bfs, baby would maybe pull ema or leave belfast altogether. In terms of space I can't see baby at bhd either, and then maybe the bmi group would realise why moving to bhd was a big mistake."
I dont think bmi think they made a mistake, the plans short term are to finish the 10 year deal made with BHD.
But that being said it doesn't stop them operating out of both!
After all they will need feeds for the Long haul out of LHR from March08!
rgds
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EI NEW BASE
but at the moment it seems bhx is their front runner
Everything I have read seems to suggest Belfast, is there a lot of talk in Birmingham media circles about EI setting up there. Even on the BHX thread there isn't alot said about it. What are all the pointers to BHX being the front runner.
but at the moment it seems bhx is their front runner
Everything I have read seems to suggest Belfast, is there a lot of talk in Birmingham media circles about EI setting up there. Even on the BHX thread there isn't alot said about it. What are all the pointers to BHX being the front runner.
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EI - Birmingham Media Talk
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As a BHX local, virtually nothing in the local media at all.
Local rumours depend on who you believe, from "it is in the bag" to "maybe".
The major rumour locally is that 10-12 daily slots were filed for winter
2007/8 and the BHX-CORK from November on Tuesdays, Thursdays
and Saturdays was changed from a Cork based aircraft to a BHX
based aircraft. Mo,Wed, Fri & Sun is still a Cork based aircraft.
It was first thought it was going to be a Dublin based craft routing
through but the Dublin times remain the same all straight turnarounds.
As Tu, Th & Sat is new for Cork it is thought that if the base goes
ahead it will remain but if it does not it will be cancelled or revert to a Cork based aircraft (if possible).
It sounds as if EI have covered all bases with BHX.
My personal opinion is that BHX was a nailed on cert a couple of months
ago but not so sure now and unlike others I think today's Easyjet announcement will give EI something to think about.
EI might not worry about WW or BE but if Easy are testing the water
for an eventual base then it changes things completely.
Pete
As a BHX local, virtually nothing in the local media at all.
Local rumours depend on who you believe, from "it is in the bag" to "maybe".
The major rumour locally is that 10-12 daily slots were filed for winter
2007/8 and the BHX-CORK from November on Tuesdays, Thursdays
and Saturdays was changed from a Cork based aircraft to a BHX
based aircraft. Mo,Wed, Fri & Sun is still a Cork based aircraft.
It was first thought it was going to be a Dublin based craft routing
through but the Dublin times remain the same all straight turnarounds.
As Tu, Th & Sat is new for Cork it is thought that if the base goes
ahead it will remain but if it does not it will be cancelled or revert to a Cork based aircraft (if possible).
It sounds as if EI have covered all bases with BHX.
My personal opinion is that BHX was a nailed on cert a couple of months
ago but not so sure now and unlike others I think today's Easyjet announcement will give EI something to think about.
EI might not worry about WW or BE but if Easy are testing the water
for an eventual base then it changes things completely.
Pete
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Aer Lingus starts LGW-DUB
Aer Lingus has announced a new 4 x daily LGW-DUB service. Rumours on other forums suggest because of these new flights they could stop a couple of LHR-DUB flights and use the slots for a BFS-LHR service. It could happen, but any thoughts?
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I'd agree with Pete that locally to BHX there hasn't been much said at all, but then there rarely is with BHX!
It seems to me that Aer Lingus have done their sums and are confident of making a Belfast or Birmingham base work, as such I guess it's now down to the respective airports to come up with the best package to entice them in.
It seems to me that Aer Lingus have done their sums and are confident of making a Belfast or Birmingham base work, as such I guess it's now down to the respective airports to come up with the best package to entice them in.
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The introduction of Ibiza is great news for the sun-seekers of Northern Ireland and is the second new route from Belfast in the last three months, which represents the potential for further development from the region
Above is a statement from Paul Cable at EZY recently, does anyone know what he means by 'further development from the region'. I suppose with talk of BE starting Brussels, Paris etc EZY need to get their house in order or the competition will snap up any potential in the near future. EZY seem very quiet at Belfast of late does this statement mean an announcement soon.
Above is a statement from Paul Cable at EZY recently, does anyone know what he means by 'further development from the region'. I suppose with talk of BE starting Brussels, Paris etc EZY need to get their house in order or the competition will snap up any potential in the near future. EZY seem very quiet at Belfast of late does this statement mean an announcement soon.
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I see Flybe are back to their usual self:
Departures:
Rennes BE1853 13:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 18:45
Glasgow BE129 17:50 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:45
Manchester BE7025 18:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:00
Arrivals:
Newquay BE1762 17:15 Estimating 18:00
Rennes BE1854 17:35 DELAYED
London Gatwick BE970 17:50 Estimating 18:30
Also, not sure if anyone has seen the Saab 2000 sitting on the old Apron Yesterday and Today. Its for a charter to Ostend with Eastern Airways.
Departures:
Rennes BE1853 13:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 18:45
Glasgow BE129 17:50 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:45
Manchester BE7025 18:30 Please wait in lounge\Estimating 19:00
Arrivals:
Newquay BE1762 17:15 Estimating 18:00
Rennes BE1854 17:35 DELAYED
London Gatwick BE970 17:50 Estimating 18:30
Also, not sure if anyone has seen the Saab 2000 sitting on the old Apron Yesterday and Today. Its for a charter to Ostend with Eastern Airways.
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BE1854 from Rennes now diverting to BFS. We still have a Dash8 sitting on Delta Apron from their last diverted flight from BHD. BFS must be having aleast 1 Flybe every night now.
Must be costing them loads:
Coach Transfers for PAX
Taxi Transfers for Crew
Landing fees
Out of Hours ground handling
Brgds
Must be costing them loads:
Coach Transfers for PAX
Taxi Transfers for Crew
Landing fees
Out of Hours ground handling
Brgds
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'MAN flight also being diverted to BFS tonight'
Indeed it was. Mrs. Frequent Flyer and I were on board. The sequence of events was really unbelievable.
When we passed through security and entered the departure lounge at Terminal Three everything seemed A1 OK.
The monitors said the flight was departing at the scheduled time of 19.55 and this message continued until gate 50 was given as the departure gate around 19.30.
We moved the few yards to gate 50 where the monitor said BE7028 BELFAST CITY and waited......and waited.......and waited.
Around 19.50 we were told there would be a delay because the inbound crew were late but we should take off around 20.20.
We waited......and waited......and waited.
Some time later we were told boarding would commence 'as soon as possible' because there was now a catering problem of some kind.
We finally got on to the 146-300 just after 21.00.
We were sitting in row one and a cabin crew member said something to another which elicted the response: "Oh you're joking" or words to that effect.
The pilot, Captain Mitchell, then came on the intercom, welcomed us on board our flight to "eh...Belfast City", gave us the usual pleasantries, apologised for the delay and then said unfortunately there would be another short delay as Belfast City was refusing to accept us and would be landing at Aldergrove instead before being bussed down to BHD.
He also explained this was the first flight to be made by this particular 146-300 yesterday so he and the rest of the crew had been starting from scratch when they got on board which added to the delay.
This was not particularly well received by the passengers and one cabin crew member explained to my wife and me she was actually based in Inverness.
Yesterday morning she was called into work and operated a flight from Inverness to BHD.
She then went Belfast City to London Gatwick, Gatwick to Belfast City and Belfast City to Manchester.
Our flight was the return leg of this but for some inexplicable reason the flight crew had been required to leave the 146-300 they had operated from BHD and join the one we were now sitting on which was making its first flight of the day.
We took off just before 21.30 and made excellent time, landing at Aldergrove just after 22.00.
If we had been going to City as scheduled the arrival time would probably have been a couple of minutes earlier.
The frustrating this is a quick look at the flightstats website showed a bmi flight from Verona was allowed to land at BHD at 21.42pm last night.
According to this website the flight we were on BE7028 was allowed to land at BHD at 21.46 on July 13.
We didn't wait for the courtesy coach but took a taxi straight home from Aldergrove to our house in Ballyhackamore, five minutes from BHD.
Indeed it was. Mrs. Frequent Flyer and I were on board. The sequence of events was really unbelievable.
When we passed through security and entered the departure lounge at Terminal Three everything seemed A1 OK.
The monitors said the flight was departing at the scheduled time of 19.55 and this message continued until gate 50 was given as the departure gate around 19.30.
We moved the few yards to gate 50 where the monitor said BE7028 BELFAST CITY and waited......and waited.......and waited.
Around 19.50 we were told there would be a delay because the inbound crew were late but we should take off around 20.20.
We waited......and waited......and waited.
Some time later we were told boarding would commence 'as soon as possible' because there was now a catering problem of some kind.
We finally got on to the 146-300 just after 21.00.
We were sitting in row one and a cabin crew member said something to another which elicted the response: "Oh you're joking" or words to that effect.
The pilot, Captain Mitchell, then came on the intercom, welcomed us on board our flight to "eh...Belfast City", gave us the usual pleasantries, apologised for the delay and then said unfortunately there would be another short delay as Belfast City was refusing to accept us and would be landing at Aldergrove instead before being bussed down to BHD.
He also explained this was the first flight to be made by this particular 146-300 yesterday so he and the rest of the crew had been starting from scratch when they got on board which added to the delay.
This was not particularly well received by the passengers and one cabin crew member explained to my wife and me she was actually based in Inverness.
Yesterday morning she was called into work and operated a flight from Inverness to BHD.
She then went Belfast City to London Gatwick, Gatwick to Belfast City and Belfast City to Manchester.
Our flight was the return leg of this but for some inexplicable reason the flight crew had been required to leave the 146-300 they had operated from BHD and join the one we were now sitting on which was making its first flight of the day.
We took off just before 21.30 and made excellent time, landing at Aldergrove just after 22.00.
If we had been going to City as scheduled the arrival time would probably have been a couple of minutes earlier.
The frustrating this is a quick look at the flightstats website showed a bmi flight from Verona was allowed to land at BHD at 21.42pm last night.
According to this website the flight we were on BE7028 was allowed to land at BHD at 21.46 on July 13.
We didn't wait for the courtesy coach but took a taxi straight home from Aldergrove to our house in Ballyhackamore, five minutes from BHD.
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Just, very reluctantly, booked FlyBe for connections to LGW for our trip to Orlando in October. Much have preferred to have gone with Easy, but sadly the times were just too tight...they really do need to up their game, and quickly.
On another topic, I'm wondering are EI going to do both BFS and BHX? Birmingham seems the more sensible new 'hub' for EI, with a much bigger catchment area (although more competition)...maybe they will come to BFS in a limited capacity, starting with LHR only?
On another topic, I'm wondering are EI going to do both BFS and BHX? Birmingham seems the more sensible new 'hub' for EI, with a much bigger catchment area (although more competition)...maybe they will come to BFS in a limited capacity, starting with LHR only?
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Flybe disaster
I think flybe are trying to take on too much, especially since buying BA Connect. This is the busiest period of the year for all airlines, and flybe just don't seem to know how to get it right. Firstly, the shortage of crew was the result of former BA Connect crew leaving because quite frankly they'd had enough, and secondly the management's heads are so full of sh*t about "environmentally friendly aircraft", that they throw away lets be honest perfectly flyable, decent former BA Connect aircraft, only to find that the ones they ordered are delayed. And, despite them being delayed, they continue to ditch the former BA Connect aircraft, regret that, so they scrounge aircraft from other airlines like VLM.One other thing I have to add is a mate of mine travelled GLA-BHD recently on flybe, flight delayed by hours, not even an announcement of the delay made, never mind it not being shown on the screen. Of course, an easyjet flight to BFS around the same time was delayed, the difference being there was an announcement made to the passengers, a reason for the delay (technical fault), updated screen, and an apology from the easyjet staff member to all the passengers.
Definition of all that can be described in 2 words - A MESS!
One other thing I have to add is a mate of mine travelled GLA-BHD recently on flybe, flight delayed by hours, not even an announcement of the delay made, never mind it not being shown on the screen. Of course, an easyjet flight to BFS around the same time was delayed, the difference being there was an announcement made to the passengers, a reason for the delay (technical fault), updated screen, and an apology from the easyjet staff member to all the passengers.Definition of all that can be described in 2 words - A MESS!
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Lack of planes?
I was under the impression that the problem was lack of crew as opposed to aircraft. Indeed further Q400's have been delivered recently and the 4th E195 is now in the fleet.
The subbed in planes are down to crew shortages as opposed to machine shortages.
The varying BAcon fleet was blamed for them being unprofitable which is why Flybe are eager to get rid.
The subbed in planes are down to crew shortages as opposed to machine shortages.
The varying BAcon fleet was blamed for them being unprofitable which is why Flybe are eager to get rid.
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On the topic of flybe and the environment. The E145 is more friendly than the E195. Even they show this by their eco-labels. (Eco-labels, wonder how many aircraft were out of service per day to get that painted on 
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http://www.flybe.com/pdf/eco_labels_make_own.pdf
)http://www.flybe.com/pdf/eco_labels_make_own.pdf
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I flew Manchester to Belfast 9.50am flight last Sunday (8th July), after flying in from Orlando at 7am.
Check in was painless - told there were no delays and boarding would begin 9.20.
Waited in lounge - 9.20 came but still no gate # on screen and no announcements made.
10.05 - announced that there was an aircraft change - 1/2 hr delay expected.
10.35 - told to go to gate 153(I think) - taken by bus to remote stand, were a VLM aircraft awaited.
10.45 - boarded plane - stewardess told us captain wanted all passengers to move to back of plane???? don't know why this was.
11.00 - Captain announced that delay was due to bags & fuel etc. being loaded onto BAE146 at original gate - before to his surprise flybe decided to change aircraft - none of groundstaff seemed to know.
11.15 - still waiting for truck and bar to push back plane.
11.20 - Doors finally close and left engine starts, but right engine not moving. 5 mins later captain comes out of cockpit and tells us he cant start right engine! He looks quite embarrassed and says it's probably something simple.
We now wait for flybe engineer.
11.40 - Engineer arrives - lots of phone calls made - cant fix the problem so they announce Flybe has decided to cancel the flight.
12.00 - Taken back to terminal, and thankfully everyones (about 20 passengers) booked on 13.00 flight.
The 13.00 flight departed on time on another VLM aircraft.
This was the second time I've flown to Orlando either via Gatwick or Manchester with Flybe and Virgin and both times have have problems. Last December the flight BHD - LGW was delayed 2 hrs and we missed onward flight to MCO.
I'd prefer to fly easyjet but the earliest flight to LGW doesn't leave enough connected time whenever you have to collect and recheckin baggage.
We're going to Orlando again in November and will probably again have to use flybe. Just hope it's 3rd time lucky.
Check in was painless - told there were no delays and boarding would begin 9.20.
Waited in lounge - 9.20 came but still no gate # on screen and no announcements made.
10.05 - announced that there was an aircraft change - 1/2 hr delay expected.
10.35 - told to go to gate 153(I think) - taken by bus to remote stand, were a VLM aircraft awaited.
10.45 - boarded plane - stewardess told us captain wanted all passengers to move to back of plane???? don't know why this was.
11.00 - Captain announced that delay was due to bags & fuel etc. being loaded onto BAE146 at original gate - before to his surprise flybe decided to change aircraft - none of groundstaff seemed to know.
11.15 - still waiting for truck and bar to push back plane.
11.20 - Doors finally close and left engine starts, but right engine not moving. 5 mins later captain comes out of cockpit and tells us he cant start right engine! He looks quite embarrassed and says it's probably something simple.
We now wait for flybe engineer.
11.40 - Engineer arrives - lots of phone calls made - cant fix the problem so they announce Flybe has decided to cancel the flight.
12.00 - Taken back to terminal, and thankfully everyones (about 20 passengers) booked on 13.00 flight.
The 13.00 flight departed on time on another VLM aircraft.
This was the second time I've flown to Orlando either via Gatwick or Manchester with Flybe and Virgin and both times have have problems. Last December the flight BHD - LGW was delayed 2 hrs and we missed onward flight to MCO.
I'd prefer to fly easyjet but the earliest flight to LGW doesn't leave enough connected time whenever you have to collect and recheckin baggage.
We're going to Orlando again in November and will probably again have to use flybe. Just hope it's 3rd time lucky.
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The subbed in planes are down to crew shortages as opposed to machine shortages.
There has been massive change for all at Flybe including major changes to ground handling etc. It is all taking some time to get fully on it's feet but it is getting better if more slowly than desired. Flybe would like it to work like a well oiled machine and are trying to put systems in place to improve things as soon as the need arises. There is no doubt it is having a detrimental effect on our passengers at the moment but we can only continue to appologise and carry on trying to fix it. The employees at Flybe know who pay their wages and we strive to give you what you expect. We know when it is not happening and you are right to complain.
You flying with easyJet does not pay my mortage and I know that only to well !