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Old 4th Jul 2007, 11:38
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You would get a better response from your post if it were in Rumour's & News.


I was chatting to one of the affected cabin crews recently and she was in a bad way. This problem has been going on for far Toooo Long.

It has also become apparent that the crews are now "encouraged" to only contact the Fleet Technical officer instead of filing an ASR/MOR.
For the record, ALL Contaminated Air events are considered an MOR same applies if you use Oxygen for any reason.

There has been a significant increase in Fume Events both on the BAe146 at Flybe and Boeing 757 at DHL over the last couple of years. If it is not addressed correctly and with a matter of urgency, then it is only a matter of time before the Luck runs out.

Helios anyone? I believe that BALPA had discovered that the 737 had a history of recent contaminated air events, including the flights immediately prior to the crash.
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Old 4th Jul 2007, 12:03
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As far as I know the problems were with brake cooling after landing at higher weights, and not having sufficient time to cool during the quick turnaround before taking off again at a high weight, hence the restriction of 120 or 150 or other pax. Not sure if it still is in place. I also believe the fleet is a mix of 24k and 26k engines, power isn't really a problem.
Maybe someone with more knowledge about FR could tell us.



All Ryanair B738's are 26k rated, then have fixed de-rates to 24K and 22K with the further option of reducing using the assumed temperature technique. As mentioned power is not a problem for Derry and indeed weights are restricted with a max of 141 pax inbound which still applies.

I for one would welcome FR at BHD as I could get home easier from EMA!!
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Old 4th Jul 2007, 13:36
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Are BE losing the plot at BHD the 0705, 1250, 1435 departures to BHX are scheduled for 1500, this is a key business route heads should roll as this has been going on for months, (is that 3 aircraft at 15.00 or one as folk are catching the Ferry to Liverpool as it will get them there quicker) also 11.10 GLA delayed to 16.50, I think the southampton and Leeds/Bradford were also cancelled, delays at BHD-LGW also. Of course maybe there is bad weather at BHX or something I am not aware of.
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The Birmingham 401 was delayed. 146 broke down. G-JECF had the passengers on board by 1100 or so and taxied out. Came back onto stand 5 mins later due to technical fault. Thats all I know on that.

Leeds 729 was cancelled as they were down an aircraft (which was in BFS due to late arrival last night).

At the moment, there are 3 aircraft nackered at BHD. G-JECM (Old Apron) G-JEBD (Stand 2) and G-JECF (Stand 9). Turning into a scrap yard, and yet Flybe are saying that they are improving
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Mind you the Cancun MYT flight at BFS has been 'indefinitely delayed', also I noticed a flight by Austrian Air to Vienna this afternoon is this a one off.
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Old 4th Jul 2007, 21:33
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Devil EGAC Ramper

It is very good that you know that abt FR 738 a/c. But can you explain why planes cant be turned round in time at EGAC??????
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Does anyone know why Emirates schedule, has BHD in it?

Could it be a sign of a new route (This is how NCL was first realesed, prior, to the official announcments) However, the route obviously couldnt do it direct, so where could the stop be? The actual schedules havent been put in yet though.

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wouldn't fancy landing a 777 into BHD! Most probally code share via lhr.
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Old 5th Jul 2007, 06:32
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Does anyone know why Emirates schedule, has BHD in it?

EDI,MME,LBA,DUB are also shown likewise in the schedule, and I think BD operate to all these airports, mind you I thought Aberdeen would have been there as well
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No I cannot as I haven't worked there since February 2005!!

I have since moved onwards and upwards.....
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Old 6th Jul 2007, 13:46
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Was speaking to BIAL staff the other day, who said that the airport management is drawing up plans to extend the check-in hall/baggage bag/apron area.

Apprantly Aer Lingus management stated that if they were to come to BFS they would expect the terminal to be extended in particular the check-in hall. I believe the airport have approached the car hire companies who have offices beside the check-in hall to move so the hall can be extended.
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Old 6th Jul 2007, 13:49
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Its just a tie up with flights onwards from LHR, but they arnt star alliance

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Old 9th Jul 2007, 12:55
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Just as a matter of interest does any one know the normal routing of zoom flights BFS/Vancouver. Reason being I was picking up yesterday and at 1400 zoom 767 took right turn off 25 climbing at fast rate then right again, so she was now heading north east which I thought was unusual, basically she would have been following the routing to GLA. I thought the routing would have been NW over or near the N.P.

Also what are Farrans constructing at the East end of Terminal.
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 15:38
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Sorry for asking this question but here it goes: how many cabin crew are there on the bhd-lcy route and who are crew?. Whats the service like i am considering travelling with them but is the extra cost worth it?
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 15:47
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Crew on the Do328 is one cabin crew, which is the norm for Scot Airways on their other scheduled services.

Catering is Air France standard, namely free bar, hot beverages, and some minor nibbles. The whole lot looks French-sourced. I am afraid though that the Scot Airways traditions like the shortbread and the tablet are locked away while the aircraft is operating the codeshare flights.

The cabin crew, in typical Scot fashion, will keep going for much of the flight in a very professional manner and be up and down several times with the cart, second round of the coffee, etc. Is this the only free in-flight catering between Belfast and London nowadays ?
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Old 9th Jul 2007, 18:13
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Anyone heard about the rumours that BHD-STN by Air Berlin might face the chop because of the increased BAA charges at STN ? Apparently all domestic services by Air Berlin from STN under review.
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Old 10th Jul 2007, 12:28
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I hope this does not happen. I was hoping that air berlin were going to introduce direct german flights from bhd like they do in manchester due to thier being a shortage of german routes from NI (except ezy to berlin). As most people do not like the time it takes to changing flights.
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Old 11th Jul 2007, 09:57
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Read a rumour that BFS are still in talks with Ryanair. I think this would be the best option, by far, for Ryanair as they could actually set up a base and with their future long haul aspirations - perfect. How would this affect EI, LHR route would be okay, could a deal be struck between EI/BFS/FR on routes as NI is a small market. If say FR were to set up at BFS and say EI set up LHR service, the only risk would be Bmi baby going down the road, but then again MAN/BHX would then be snapped up by EI/LS. I think if FR/EI both came to BFS and routes didn't overlap to much the problem would be space. However work could start immediately on improvements to infrastructure (is that why Farrans are there)
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The Ryans aren't starting at BFS any more than they are starting operations from the City. If baby were to move in response to the Aer Lingus decision to operate from BFS, what would flybe do, aren't they doing MAN, BHX and CWL in competition. If they were to move then Aer Lingus would have a field day and jump straight into the warm beds. In addition to the inevitable competition on the LHR, bmi, baby and mainline would have alot to think about. baby should stay put and at least it's only the LHR route that wiil suffer, but that is their own fault for overcharging and underserving, no late flight.
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Old 11th Jul 2007, 13:24
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I hope ei do come to bfs but at the moment it seems bhx is their front runner, but belfast is still in the race, lets hope bfs wins!
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