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Old 8th Jan 2010, 21:35
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Cloud1 you would definately be in the minority with passengers who would rather be bused to a hotel for the night than reach their destination.

Maybe you enjoy the whole cancelled flight experience and £5.00 meal voucher thing.

What problems at BHD? The amount of passengers in the terminal had more to do with Flybe who just seemed to cancel all flights. Ryanair at least will do its best not to cancel any flights. Yes you may face a big delay but at least you'll get home, which for me is better than a night wasted in a hotel room.

The weather cleared up last night and had Flybe still been around they might have been able to make use of it!
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CO 126 Newark New York 09:40 09:57DIVERTED FROM

Where has this been diverted from? 2 Continentals in BFS this morning if it manages to land - I think it is making a couple of attempts - fog maybe. Looks like a 757
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LiverpoolFR142409:05Diverted to Belfast AldergroveLondon StanstedFR612309:30Diverted to City of DerryBlackpool/ Isle of ManNM50009:40Diverted to Belfast Aldergove


Just as a matter of interest what is the deciding factor as to diverting to LDY of BFS. BE seem to use LDY, is it not cheaper and handier busing from BFS to Belfast.
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Where has this been diverted from? 2 Continentals in BFS this morning if it manages to land - I think it is making a couple of attempts - fog maybe. Looks like a 757

looks like divert from dublin- snow problems again
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Gate 22, from about 1600 onwards yesterday BFS was covering in freezing fog( -5*C to -9*C), visability must have been down to about 100m at times.. probably hasnt lifted yet so maybe the BE planes cant land in it or if they can, its up to the pilots

they towed the FR 737 from stand 27 to stand 11 last night... seems wierd how its stayed on the ground for so long yet the other 3 FR planes departed that night
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Looks like we also had an Aer Lingus in from DUB as well, EI 108 FROM NEW YORK JFK as an A330
yup, A330 parked on stand 25A, PAX offloaded and bussed to DUB, positioned to DUB after 1630 tonight.. slight possibility of the same happening in a couple of hours.. as a TOM has been diverted from DUB to BFS

does anyone know why the FR aircraft hasnt moved yet? must be costing a fortune for it to sit there.. it cant be for de-icing reasons as today at BFS only 1 flight as de-iced in the afternoon so was plenty of opportunities to get it away
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Quote from NI Travel news:
GETTING a new transatlantic operator to Canada is the number one priority of Belfast International Airport.
"It is absolutely critical to get a new service to Toronto in particular," said Uel Hoey, the Airport's Business Development Director.
"We are working closely with DETI in an attempt to fill the gap left by the Globespan failure.
"We also need more support from the Northern Ireland Tourist Board given that two operators to Canada, Globespan and Zoom have left the market in little more than a year.
"We need a direct service into Belfast. A Canadian visitor who flies into Dublin might come to Northern Ireland for two or three nights - but one who uses a direct service into Belfast would on average spend 11 to 12 nights here, so the benefit to the tourism industry is obvious."
Belfast International will be trying to persuade another operator, such as Air Transat, back on to the Belfast route. Other possibilities could include Air Canada or Aer Lingus.
"We will be doing anything we can - there is now a definite gap in the market," he added. "Just a few years ago the Canadian market was in the region of 40,000 seats so there is a definite demand to be catered for. Toronto was always a very strong destination from Belfast, but also onwards to places like Vancouver."
The Belfast International executive also identified Orlando as another destination under-served because of the Globespan collapse.
"There are no muddy waters here… Northern Ireland needs an operator offering more capacity to both Toronto and Orlando as soon as possible."
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easyJet launches operations from Belfast City Airport

Thursday 07 Jan 2010

easyJet today started operations from George Best Belfast City Airport with a twice daily service to London Luton.



Luton flights have previously been from Belfast International, but easyJet is now assessing if passengers would prefer an airport closer to Belfast when flying on shorter routes.

Trevor Spinks, the airline’s commercial manager for Northern Ireland, said: “People have made us Northern Ireland’s favourite airline, but we are always looking for ways to improve our service.

We are testing the water on the Luton route. With fares from only £21.99 including taxes, bookings so far have been excellent and, if the trend continues, we may provide more flights.

We would also consider introducing additional routes from Belfast City over time.”

Overall, easyJet will remain the leader in offering an unbeatable package for London travellers, with flights to Gatwick and Stansted continuing to operate from Belfast International.

Spinks added: “easyJet is No 1 in the region but we remain very committed, not complacent.

“We will take our time in assessing the feedback from Luton passengers and then decide how best to configure our operations between the two Belfast airports in the longer term.

“In the meantime, I know that people will appreciate the convenience of our Luton service.

“Luton is less than an hour from the centre of London. Business people can quickly get down to work in the City – and leisure travellers can enjoy the great shops and shows.”
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Canada

Never mind just Belfast, I think at its peak in summer 08 approx 14 flights a week to and from Canada with all the operators, Zoom, GSM, AC etc etc, BFS and DUB bothe need all year round Canada flights. In fact i read that AC is operating A319's from Halifax to LHR next summer so surely AC could find something to operate into Belfast, even if it was a via somewhere operation
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Well at least they seem to be talking to Air Canada, which would be great if they pulled it off. Do you not think that EI could be persuaded to base a large aircraft for the summer? they could use it for a couple of rotations to Toronto/Orlando and maybe a crack at Boston.
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EI

At this stage i reckon EI would try any route with anything to make a quick euro, but the problem with EI and longhaul is the crewing not the aircraft from what i can read of the situation.

Mind you AC ex dub went from daily a couple years ago to I think only 4 or 5 a week last year with 767's that the crew reckoned were on there last legs, were talking pull down projectors and screens here!!!!
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Package Holiday Sales up 10 per cent for summer 2010

Package holiday sales up 10 per cent for summer 2010 - Northern Ireland Travel

Frank Pullman, Managing Director at Thomas Cook Airlines, confirmed the increased interest in Turkey. He said: "We're very pleased to be introducing flights to Izmir for summer 2010 from Belfast Airport.

"This means that we'll be operating flights to four Turkish resorts and in total we'll fly 18 routes over the summer season, with traditional favourites like the Canary Islands, Balearic Islands and mainland Spain flights as well as to Sharm el Sheikh in Egypt."
The new Izmir flights appear to be bookable from 5 June 2010, right through until 23 October. The times replacing the Rhodes flight from Belfast.

Saturday BFS 22.20 - 04.45 ADB 05.45 - 08.10 BFS

This now pushing the Sunday morning Reus flight to a 09.45 departure and subsequently the Antalya Sunday evening flight to a 18.35 departure.
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 17:55
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Canada / Orlando

What about VS?

Orlando already served from LGW / MAN / GLA, and Branson has been talking about entering the Toronto market...and they have airframes to spare at the moment.

2 x MCO / 2 x YYZ per week? With a 343 / 346 / 747 choice to play with...
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 18:14
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Question

Noticed this evening's RE from ORK - BHD is diverting to BFS. Anyone know why as weather conditions at BHD are OK at the moment?
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 18:26
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Would be excellent to see Virgin Atlantic at Belfast.

Apparently the amount of bookings Thomson / American Holidays take to Orlando from Belfast, via Gatwick with Virgin Holidays is phenomenal. Speaking to a friend in the travel industry, stated that's why TCX was pulling their season long Sanford flight replacing it with only 3 dates peak June / July. Lack of demand for the direct charter, with many choosing instead to route VS via LGW, or CO via EWR.

Think outside the peak June / July period, Virgin Holidays basically include the FlyBE Belfast flight at no addition charge, based on Gatwick departure price.
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Noticed this evening's RE from ORK - BHD is diverting to BFS. Anyone know why as weather conditions at BHD are OK at the moment?




Better service from nicer people???
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Smile

Maybe EZY moved their LTN to BHD for the same reason. Maybe BMI moved their LHR to BHD for the same reason all those years ago!
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Would be excellent to see Virgin Atlantic at Belfast.
I can remember in 1994/95 at the start of the peace process Richard Branson stating that if there was peace he would possibly operate scheduled flights out of Belfast. I think around the time he used Belfast airport for training.
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Noticed this evening's RE from ORK - BHD is diverting to BFS. Anyone know why as weather conditions at BHD are OK at the moment?
It's not due in until 2225, so most like due to the city airport being officially closed from 2130. Aer Arann obviously breaking the rules!

However, in the last few weeks the level of late arrivals and departures at BHD has been as big as I have ever seen before. Ryanair's and Flybe's coming in and after 2300. The whole rules book seems to be out the window at the city airport from aircraft movement limits, to passenger number limits to the 2130 curfew!!

Does anyone know when the official word on the runway is due?

EI-BUD
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Old 12th Jan 2010, 22:39
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EI -BUD 'The whole rules book seems to be out the window at the city airport from aircraft movement limits, to passenger number limits to the 2130 curfew!!'

Is that the same rule book that caps ATM's at 48,000. 2009 was (I believe about) 39,000.

Or the rule book that says that seats for sale should be less than 2M from the airport. Total pax in 2009 approx 2.5M therefore 1.25M from the airport - av load factor about 62%. Hmmm

Or is the rule book that says that late ATM's are allowed in exceptional circumstances - if the weather during the last 3 weeks hasnt been exception then why has every airport in GB (including BFS) been in such dire straits.

Have you ever even read the rule book? Come on - at least try to be objective
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