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I would expect an expanded schedule from easyjet too in response..or as Harry Hill would say -''Fight!!''
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Maybe somthing out of BHD...That would be a high profile route
Lots of free advetising in the news etc......
Lots of free advetising in the news etc......
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Tigger you can run A319s from BHD to Spain without any payload problems. It's only supertractors that have issues with runway length. Even the baby tractor should be able to cope. If BMI or Flybe had the inclination they could've been doing this years ago. Yet another good reason why the runway doesn't need extended..but that's another story.
I wouldn't hold my breath on any further services ex BHD in the short term and in any case that won't affect EI. It's about time Easyjet started responding to EI's movements at BFS properly. If they had reacted substantially in the first place instead of sticking their heads in the sand, EI would know better by now.
I wouldn't hold my breath on any further services ex BHD in the short term and in any case that won't affect EI. It's about time Easyjet started responding to EI's movements at BFS properly. If they had reacted substantially in the first place instead of sticking their heads in the sand, EI would know better by now.
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Tigger you can run A319s from BHD to Spain without any payload problems.
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Some comments from the new head of EI on the airports situation here.
BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | NI 'only needs one major airport'
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BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | NI 'only needs one major airport'
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Maybe EI's comments were in response to this
Northern Ireland News - Airport's Extra Passenger Bid Slammed
Northern Ireland News - Airport's Extra Passenger Bid Slammed
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Mr Mueller may come to regret his comments about only 1 airport being needed for Northern Ireland but if he's against expansion at City then he clearly is a visionary leader in aviation and will do a brilliant job at EI 
He's certainly added to the debate and there would appear to be growing political appetite to examine City's expansion plans which now include scrapping existing passenger limits in addition to expanding the runway to enable a dramatic increase in pollution for local residents.
I'm vehemently against expansion at Belfast City because it is plainly not required and I defy any person to build a case for it (with the exception of the owners and MOL)
However it provides or should say, has provided an excellent communication link for Belfast. That it's current owners are required to squeeze the lemon dry is down to their investment decision. The residents should not be asked to swallow the bitter pill of dramatically increased pollution at a time when most civilised societies are curbing the impact of airport pollution, particuarly where alternatives are available.
Wake up folks.
He's certainly added to the debate and there would appear to be growing political appetite to examine City's expansion plans which now include scrapping existing passenger limits in addition to expanding the runway to enable a dramatic increase in pollution for local residents.
I'm vehemently against expansion at Belfast City because it is plainly not required and I defy any person to build a case for it (with the exception of the owners and MOL)
However it provides or should say, has provided an excellent communication link for Belfast. That it's current owners are required to squeeze the lemon dry is down to their investment decision. The residents should not be asked to swallow the bitter pill of dramatically increased pollution at a time when most civilised societies are curbing the impact of airport pollution, particuarly where alternatives are available.
Wake up folks.
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...and a response to Mr Mueller from BHD
Belfast City Airport - AIRPORT CHIEF LABELS AER LINGUS REMARKS ARROGANT AND ILL-INFORMED
Belfast City Airport - AIRPORT CHIEF LABELS AER LINGUS REMARKS ARROGANT AND ILL-INFORMED
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“These airlines don't view our operating hours as a disadvantage. People don't wish to fly late at night as Aer Lingus own timetable suggests" a quote from the above article. So why was there pressure at one time to extend the hours? If I remember right, was there not at one time a call to allow BD to operate a later flight from LHR?
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The views from EI sound a bit like " Failing airline makes last chance statement about failing airport"
Dont get me wrong its business and people will fly from the airport nearest to where they want to be
BHD is close to the city. And now that EZY ( nearly!) FR BD (for now) And BE all operate business routes from the city then they will do well
The runway issue is a big one and to Quote Mr A from 3 years ago is a bit strange for the someone in the airline business, Like in Stingray "Anything can happen in the next half hour!!"
People who want to get stuck behind a tractor will still use BFS
The 10 year wait for a new road to BFS will help the city , But why build a road with public money to get to a share holders owned airport? They would not do it for Tescos!!
And how many late flights are there from BHD?? NONE!!
Dont get me wrong its business and people will fly from the airport nearest to where they want to be
BHD is close to the city. And now that EZY ( nearly!) FR BD (for now) And BE all operate business routes from the city then they will do well
The runway issue is a big one and to Quote Mr A from 3 years ago is a bit strange for the someone in the airline business, Like in Stingray "Anything can happen in the next half hour!!"
People who want to get stuck behind a tractor will still use BFS
The 10 year wait for a new road to BFS will help the city , But why build a road with public money to get to a share holders owned airport? They would not do it for Tescos!!
And how many late flights are there from BHD?? NONE!!
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Of all the fights he needs to concentrate on, he chooses the red herring of 'how many airports are needed in the province'. Wierd.
Surely not an O'Leary-esque exercise in shifting attention from the real issues?! I would concentrate on making sure Aer Lingus is still in operation this time next year if I were you, Mr. M.
If I were looking for a cheap gag, I'd say "Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Mueller....." but I'm not, so I won't.
Surely not an O'Leary-esque exercise in shifting attention from the real issues?! I would concentrate on making sure Aer Lingus is still in operation this time next year if I were you, Mr. M.
If I were looking for a cheap gag, I'd say "Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Mueller....." but I'm not, so I won't.
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There is no doubt that City is in a great location however I do not believe the recent growth in passenger numbers is caused by its location. Rather a new type of operator has been allowed to start flights despite it being completely unsuitable for the airport.
Airports became fashionable business opportunities recently despite the fact they are monopolistic by nature and should attract more commercial regulation. When was the last time a new airport opened near you?
In my case it was 1983 and it was generally welcomed by the local residents.
When it comes to the 'business' case about airports we clearly need more government leadership.
Airports provide incredible socio economic benefits through improved communication links, jobs, business opportunities etc
Therefore the infrastructure around airports is very important and the road to BFS is a very different proposition compared to access to a supermarket.
Both airports should benefit from greatly improved transport links paid for by both the airport owners and local government and certainly any expansion plans by either airport should be dependent upon these transport improvements.
I wonder if City has any transport impact plan for the future with its longer runway and increaed traffic it covets. I think they are too busy projecting the increase in value of their asset and what % they can wangle for themselves.
There is no appearance of a coordinated transport approach at present nor in the past.
Speaking of which I feel it is rational to expect the owner of a monopolistic company that regularly pollutes neighbouring residents to keep their word with regards to the future levels of that pollution.
Yes the world turns and airport ownership/management has changed throughout the world dramatically as infrastructure assets and in particular airports became sought after by various funds and asset management operations.
In the UK the current perceived wisdom is that 5 million passengers for an airport is the holy grail. Something magical happens at this figure and car parking revenue, restaurant bills, shopping receipts and the such produce greatly enhanced profits.
BFS is at the magic threshold, City is not and cannot make this number unless Mr A turns up the pollution tap to a very high level and in doing starts taking pollution from BFS to add to his current noxious mix.
Let the battle continue.
Airports became fashionable business opportunities recently despite the fact they are monopolistic by nature and should attract more commercial regulation. When was the last time a new airport opened near you?
In my case it was 1983 and it was generally welcomed by the local residents.
When it comes to the 'business' case about airports we clearly need more government leadership.
Airports provide incredible socio economic benefits through improved communication links, jobs, business opportunities etc
Therefore the infrastructure around airports is very important and the road to BFS is a very different proposition compared to access to a supermarket.
Both airports should benefit from greatly improved transport links paid for by both the airport owners and local government and certainly any expansion plans by either airport should be dependent upon these transport improvements.
I wonder if City has any transport impact plan for the future with its longer runway and increaed traffic it covets. I think they are too busy projecting the increase in value of their asset and what % they can wangle for themselves.
There is no appearance of a coordinated transport approach at present nor in the past.
Speaking of which I feel it is rational to expect the owner of a monopolistic company that regularly pollutes neighbouring residents to keep their word with regards to the future levels of that pollution.
Yes the world turns and airport ownership/management has changed throughout the world dramatically as infrastructure assets and in particular airports became sought after by various funds and asset management operations.
In the UK the current perceived wisdom is that 5 million passengers for an airport is the holy grail. Something magical happens at this figure and car parking revenue, restaurant bills, shopping receipts and the such produce greatly enhanced profits.
BFS is at the magic threshold, City is not and cannot make this number unless Mr A turns up the pollution tap to a very high level and in doing starts taking pollution from BFS to add to his current noxious mix.
Let the battle continue.
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another different arrival...
JU 2124--- Belgrade ---12:35
apparently the MON flight today took out a film crew (dont know about cast)
does any1 know if the shopping complex at BFS will be landside or airside? as theres a big staircase + escalators which start at the side closest to the drop off area.. see pictures below
http://www.belfastairport.com/en/con...es-photos.html
just seems wierd having a large staircase in that location as there could easily be an entrance put in
JU 2124--- Belgrade ---12:35
apparently the MON flight today took out a film crew (dont know about cast)
does any1 know if the shopping complex at BFS will be landside or airside? as theres a big staircase + escalators which start at the side closest to the drop off area.. see pictures below
http://www.belfastairport.com/en/con...es-photos.html
just seems wierd having a large staircase in that location as there could easily be an entrance put in
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