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A318 Delivery G-EUNA
The first BA A318 is en route XFW-LGW per another site and
confirmed on acarsd at 18.09
I did not realise it was due yet.
Tried to pick it up on the Heathrow Radar website as Gatwick arrivals
do appear but nothing shown as yet.
Pete
confirmed on acarsd at 18.09
I did not realise it was due yet.
Tried to pick it up on the Heathrow Radar website as Gatwick arrivals
do appear but nothing shown as yet.
Pete
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hello "rival" airline staff employee here
wondering how one goes about staff travel on BA
any info would be marvellous! also if there a way to check passenger loads on flights?
many thanks in advance MS
wondering how one goes about staff travel on BA
any info would be marvellous! also if there a way to check passenger loads on flights?
many thanks in advance MS
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BA - Gatwick to Catania
I have read media reports that BA is going to withdraw its flights from London Gatwick to Catania, Sicily from October. Is this true? Thanks.
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Speedbird 2 on an A318 !!!!!
This will always be Speedbird 1 & 2 (in my mind anyway !!)
YouTube - Concorde's Final Departure from JFK
or
Speedbird1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This will always be Speedbird 1 & 2 (in my mind anyway !!)
YouTube - Concorde's Final Departure from JFK
or
Speedbird1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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London City vs Heathrow: the race to New York - Telegraph
Is this normal?!
The 747-400 is, however, almost completely full – 14 first-class seats all taken, 70 of 72 business-class taken, 30 World Traveller Plus seats all taken and 158 of the 170 World Traveller (economy) seats taken. Everyone takes this as a sign that the recession is behind us and there is a general mood of joie de vivre as we head for New York.
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No - World Traveller is normally full.
No - World Traveller is normally full too! ??
" I ponder whether BA will succeed where other business-only services have failed. Admittedly Eos, Maxjet and Silverjet flew from Stansted or Luton, but BA’s fares starting at £2,000 return from London City are nearly two times higher than theirs,"?
BA’s CEO, Willie Walsh, has said that it will take a year for the new service to make a profit and in the meantime there will be discounts and deals to entice passengers out to City Airport. It’s these deals Telegraph Travel readers may want to keep an eye out for.
AND full aircraft both ways!
(Ignoring the fact, these pax may, in any case, have travelled with BA out of LHR!)
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You are incorrect in your prediction. It will require round about 15 pax per flight to be in profit. This also does not take into account any follow on business we may get from Americans using this service for the first time and opting to use BA in the future.
The exercise is very different from EOS etc, it has the backing of BA and an investment that will permit periodic losses. Futhermore at JFK / LCY BA are already established therefore there have not been any significant start up costs in ground handling / though there is a direct engineering cost at LCY. This may well change if the management of the A318's and BACX are combined into one operation from the passenger group / engineering prospective, which can only be a matter of time.
The exercise is very different from EOS etc, it has the backing of BA and an investment that will permit periodic losses. Futhermore at JFK / LCY BA are already established therefore there have not been any significant start up costs in ground handling / though there is a direct engineering cost at LCY. This may well change if the management of the A318's and BACX are combined into one operation from the passenger group / engineering prospective, which can only be a matter of time.
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The BA loads mentioned in the article are very encouraging. In the recent months, the front has only been that full on other flights due to overselling of the Y cabin, which I don't think was the case on the journalist's flight as there were still free seats in that cabin.
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Don't forget that a proportion of those in First and Club World, and perhaps a significant one, will be Executive Club members who took the opportunity of last year's "50% off" sale to use Miles for redemption flights.
These passengers generate very little revenue for the airline. For example, I paid slightly under £400 for each return booking from the UK to North America in Club. (Plus 50,000 Miles, of course.)
So, without knowing about the yield, load factors tell us little.
These passengers generate very little revenue for the airline. For example, I paid slightly under £400 for each return booking from the UK to North America in Club. (Plus 50,000 Miles, of course.)
So, without knowing about the yield, load factors tell us little.
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Seat62K,
I understand that a number of passengers are on miles but remember:
I understand that a number of passengers are on miles but remember:
- Six months ago, there were more near empty flights, still including a high level of miles flyers
- The people using the miles have to EARN the miles as well which is much more money than a return flight
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BA / Iberia merger may force Vueling bid : Heathrow Airport News Stories
So as LH go to take over middle Europe, BA seem to be taking western Europe!
TAP anyone?
So as LH go to take over middle Europe, BA seem to be taking western Europe!
TAP anyone?
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As mere SLF, I've recently travelled to Shanghai on business and checked out BA economy plus for the trip from Heathrow, at £2500 return compared to £1500 business class with KLM via AMS.
I realise that the communist 60 year celebrations were only 4 days from commencing when i travelled that maybe a premium was going to be paid but £1000, my point to this is how AF/KLM can charge £1000 less and offer business class.
On another note, the 747combi KLM flight was fantastic, great crew my only question was who was the man travelling with his wife who kept entering the flight deck for periods of 2-3 hours and was even on the flightdeck for trake off and landing
I realise that the communist 60 year celebrations were only 4 days from commencing when i travelled that maybe a premium was going to be paid but £1000, my point to this is how AF/KLM can charge £1000 less and offer business class.
On another note, the 747combi KLM flight was fantastic, great crew my only question was who was the man travelling with his wife who kept entering the flight deck for periods of 2-3 hours and was even on the flightdeck for trake off and landing
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Erosion of the product
I see they're also going to charge for pre-booked seats. Well done Big Airways - you'll still have a nice big cost base, but will have manged to further erode your product down towards the Squeasy, Ryanair end of the market thereby making people wonder why they don't just book with those carriers. Not sure why BA has to torment itself with these identity crises every few years. Why not better the product to a level where they can truly say they are one of the best, instead of following this downward trend ?