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Old 30th Sep 2009, 16:07
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The first airport in Central-Eastern Europe rumoured to become Ryanair's base was just "taken over" by Wizz (Wroclaw has been announced as their fifth base in Poland). While Wizzair already established its bases in some of the most important places in the region, FR is just waiting (they say negotiating) with no results. A non-aggression pact or a severe oversight there?

Interesting to see who will "take" Bratislava.
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Wroclaw and Wizz

The first airport in Central-Eastern Europe rumoured to become Ryanair's base
There are rumours about an impending Ryanair base at a half dozen Central and Eastern European airports, not just Wroclaw. Wizz Air's advancement into Wroclaw now is natural, logical and not unexpected. They have still very carefully selected routes that will not compete with Ryanair's existing Wroclaw routes.
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Old 30th Sep 2009, 16:59
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A non-aggression pact or a severe oversight there?
Wizzairs leading shareholder is Indigo Partners LLC, Indigo had a 24% holding in Tiger Airways along with Irelandia which was the late Tony Ryans Investment vehicle which had a 16% holding.

Indigo run by Bill Franke former boss of America West.
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There are rumours about an impending Ryanair base at a half dozen Central and Eastern European airports, not just Wroclaw.
Right. However, Wroclaw and Riga were "historically" the first potential ones, a few years ago I mean. Since then WizzAir has made some significant steps ahead (naturally, logically and not unexpectedly), while FR base status to the East from Bremen-Milan line is still precisely NULL. Hence my "non-aggression pact" thoughts (also Wizz having not a single base West of Prague, to be accurate).
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Old 30th Sep 2009, 17:55
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To add to the conspiration theory Skavsta (NYO) - Wroclaw is closed by Ryanair in the end of October...
The first airport in Central-Eastern Europe rumoured to become Ryanair's base was just "taken over" by Wizz (Wroclaw has been announced as their fifth base in Poland). While Wizzair already established its bases in some of the most important places in the region, FR is just waiting (they say negotiating) with no results. A non-aggression pact or a severe oversight there?
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Old 5th Oct 2009, 15:49
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Sept Passenger numbers

Sep 09 - 6.12M
Sep 08 - 5.23M

Increase 18%

Load Fact 85% +1 % v Sept 08

Quarterly figures

2009 - 19.73M
2008 - 16.67M

Increase 18%

Load factor 88% (no change)

They had a decent quarter in terms of Passenger numbers.
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Renegotiation with Boeing

Ryanair wants to renegotiate aircraft orders : Stansted Airport News Stories

It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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BBC - Panorama

As a matter of interest I see that Panorama [BBC1 news show] is showing a programme about Ryanair on Oct 12th at 20:30. Not sure that they will say much new - MOL will have the final word, stating that if PAX do not like the way he does business, they can eff-off to another carrier [I know that is what I have done]
Going slightly off-thread, the BBC will probably wheel out the infuriating travel journalist Simon Calder [are there no other travel journalists out there?] who will sit firmly on the fence and say absolutely nothing that might upset anyone in the travel business.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 15:31
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Ryanair Return

Ryanair are set to return to fuerteventura according to reports coming out of fue a three year deal is to be done next week lets hope so
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Ryanair wants to renegotiate aircraft orders : Stansted Airport News Stories : Stansted Airport News Stories
Ryanair has had a great deal on the 737s on the basis that MOL took so many at a time when Boeing needed a deal. It was getting them so cheap that he could sell them on after a few years around the price he paid. They will not let him off lightly. MOL cannot keep blackmailing suppiers and then expecting big discounts for his trade. Airports and suppiers should start a MOL markup system that matches how he markes ticket prices work.

I think boeing could invent a few taxes and charges to add to the FR bill.

BBC Panorama has already been attacked on the FR website so it is likely to be a good watch.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 15:45
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Perhaps Boeing should sell him some B737's MOL style, just the hull at a cheap rate then ask him if he wants wings, engines and wheels which are extra's and charge him **** loads!
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 18:15
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Or...... Boeing could hold him to the original deal - the airline folds -
Everyone looses their jobs - and MOL crawls back under the
stone he crept out from under - AND the minority of Ryanair bashers
could celebrate from now till kingdom come.

Sorted !!

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Old 10th Oct 2009, 03:46
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I am not wishing to see Ryanair go out of business, BUT, you can only be the bully for so long before the the bully gets a slap and is hurt badly. Everybody from A-Z that has dealt with FR has been squeezed, pushed, pulled and bullied by MOL. Its only a matter of time before he gets a major slap from someone. I cant see Boeing bowing to his insane demands.
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 10:49
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As long as Airbus doesn't offer them a cheap deal which doesn't look likely given the comments that they have made and what happened when the original 738 order were placed there is no need for Boeing to renegotiate anything unless Embraer build a bigger plane which would be years off.
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 11:29
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Flying Ryanair is a bit like shopping at Lidl.

Its cheap, but you you wouldn't tell your friends you use them.

does MOL remind anyone of Gerald Ratner ?
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 12:25
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Lidl is good value for money, so is Ryanair and you tell others.
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 14:23
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ASFKAP

Could you enlighten us as to your bad experiences whilst
flying with Ryanair please......Cheers.

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Well Mickyman, I'll tell you mine. Ryanair brought forward the time of my flight home to Spain by two hours without informing me, thus causing me to miss the flight. I had to buy two new tickets for the flight the next day[one for me and one for Mrs Wowzz] plus hire a car for a day in order to stay with relatives over night.
Ryanair desk at STN stated that I had been informed by e-mail of the change in flight time. Two years later I am still waiting for the e-mail to arrive.
As much as anything it was the sheer attitude of the staff that made me angry - it was all my fault and if the e-mail didn't reach me, well that was my problem, not theirs.
Never again!
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 16:54
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wowzz

If that is your experience then fair enough - take your business elsewhere - in your position I would probably be just as agrieved.

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Old 10th Oct 2009, 19:12
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Blar Blar Blar, heard it all before .
If you want Lidl try Delta/Northwest B757 MSP-LAS, has to be the oldest A/C I have ever been on, shabby warn fabric seats, all the white overhead bins and window shutters have turned as yellow as Ryanairs bins and where the TV's were there is now white/yellow plastic screwed over where they have been removed, you also have to buy food, the crew were stuck up and the flight went tech for 2.5 hrs.

Give me nice new Ryanair A/C and Ryanair CC with a good ontime record anyday. I love ryanair and what they offer, before you say you get what you pay for your wrong ! I have just payed £20 rtn all in for flights next spring when i looked the week before for the same flight other Airlines wanted £160 rtn to £240 rtn.

So just give it a rest, Im sick to the back teath of all you stuck up I'll never fly Ryanair jokers, please do us all a faver and dont fly Ryanair, I would hate to be sat next to any of you because I know the kind of people you all are, you spend every weekend writing complaint letters to
people that you think are under you ...
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