Ryanair - 6

[kingdee]

The problem is that

people have one track minds .
E.G ENGLAND = LONDON
FRANCE = PARIS
And yes IRELAND = DUBLIN .

[airhumberside]

Are HHN-SXF and BVA-MRS double daily or not?

[boyzinblue]

Hahn-Berlin is double daily.

Rostock-Stockholm for the summer has also been announced. From June-August on Tuesdays and Saturdays. If the route is successful then they may consider extention/new routes.

[EU-FOD]

FR in France and Germany

Hello! First time to post on PRPrune, so here goes:

FR BVA to MRS is definitely 4 / week. The HHN / Berlin service looks like a double daily based on estimated pax numbers for the coming year, of some
240k.

[iwhak]

The reason Cityjet are marketing so much is that the incentives offered by the combined SNN lobby were to say the least massive, and as they took the risk fair play to them. However, since Ryanair announced the Shannon base routes have not been dedided solely on commercial merit but more on the basis of who we damage most, particularly Galway and to an extent Cork and also anybody else operating from Shannon. Looking at the SNN business case without FR they have lost nearly every other european operator, the EI deal on transatlantic has been watered substantially and when the troops dry up who knows what's for SNN, there is no plan, because there can't be Ryanair run the show. How many routes out of the West of Ireland have been started by FR only to be dropped, when it suited them or when the competition had been quashed by preadtory pricing. These routes will never be operated again by Ryanair or indeed any other carrier. When these routes are dropped are the punitive measures in the new route contract being properly applied by Shannon, indeed new routes that come about by creating capacity through closing another should not receive any discounts. Regrettably for SNN and the West of Ireland the tourist economy will be dictated by MOL in a few years and that base will be a fraction of its current size. It was a bad day for the West of Ireland when SNN agreed that deal, hopefully someone from the EU will start looking at this very very closely! Ryanair and MOL have been great for this country and balancing air travel, however in the case of Shannon they are in my view a disaster.

[Gar]

I flew (as a passenger!) Bournemouth to Prestwick on Tuesday and my flight was delayed for 3 and a half hours due to "operational reasons", and the aircraft that eventually took us home seemed to be of Italian origin. Does anyone have access to information as to what the "operational reasons" were? There was an AN-22 at Prestwick when I landed and I thought I saw an engine being loaded on to it. Likely to be linked?

[Knife-Edge]

Flew back from Dublin to Bournemouth today - about an hour late and also appeared to be an Italian crew. Do the Italian based a/c fly W-patterns to from UK/Ireland?

[EGAC_Ramper]

English crews are based in mainland Europe and Italians/French/Germans etc can be based in UK/Ireland. They are all spread about the bases with contract pilots also being on non fixed based contracts.

[Voldermort]

Gar
The PIK - BOH route is operated by a PIK based a/c however I do remember noticing on Tue that around 10 in the morning they already had a delay on the departure to BOH from 1400ish to around 1730 which seemed a bit odd. The flight was operated by a non based a/c which operates the FR415 from STN and instead of going back to STN at around 1730 as the FR422 it operated the BOH rotation and then (I think) operated the delayed 422 also some 3.5 hours late.
Pretty sure the a/c was EI-CSZ the one with the "Arrivederci Alitalia" titles.
Not sure of the "operational reason" but it was something they new about well in advance and put a plan of sorts into action rather than cancel the flight.
The An22 took some "stuff" out to Gostomel/Kiev in the Ukraine the following day so it was nothing to do with Ryanair.

[Gar]

Thanks a lot for that information - you are correct about the "Arrivederci Alitalia" titles. You are also correct in saying that it was good they put a plan of action in place instead of cancelling the flight as a stay in BOH longer than my already-extended stay would have been a form of torture. There is literally nothing to do!

Where do you get your PIK information? I was looking around for PIK-or -GLA-based forums last night but could not find one

[Skipness One Echo]

www.acarsd.org/acars_search.html is very hekpful for this kind of question

[jack_essex]

Ryanair aircraft skids of runway in LIG - emergency evacuation,all 175 pax +crew safe

Ryanair confirmed this afternoon (21st March 2008) that its flight FR1216 from Brussels Charleroi to Limoges in Western France, which landed on schedule at 16.00 (local), skidded after landing and the aircraft came to a stop approx. 10 metres off the end of the runway in a grass run-off area.
At the time of landing, it was raining, the runway was wet and subject to gusting winds, although the prevailing conditions were within safely limits.

None of the 175 passengers, or the 6 crew suffered injuries as a result of this skid. The Captain initiated an emergency exit and passengers were evacuated using the aircraft slides and were transferred by bus to the terminal building. Their bags were subsequently removed to allow them continue onwards to their destination. All passengers have been offered any assistance necessary in order to complete their journey. One pregnant passenger has been taken to hospital as a precautionary measure.

Further details available on Ryanair website

[MUFC_fan]

Not very often an airline will give that much information for an aircraft incident of their own!

Well done FR crew - they must be trained properly whatever people say!

One of the older birds by look of the picture!

[take-off]

At least they weren't late!!!!

Not the first thing you think about , the punctuality of your flight as its skidding off the runway....

But good job all were sfe and not hurt, end of day thats all the matters

[adam12345]

Future Plans

Anybody know if Ryanair are looking to open any new bases soon and if there are any new routes on the horizon..thanks

[OliWW]

Ive heard a rumor that Ryanair are proposing to start

East Mids - Preswick
East Mids - Porto
East Mids - Dusseldorf
East Mids - Malta

and Also

Bremen - Belfast City

[Visual Calls]

Well done FR crew - they must be trained properly whatever people say!

Hmmm, they landed on a wet runway at the exact time the METAR was giving an on-limits steady tailwind, with out of limit tailwind gusts. I'd hold the praise for the moment and just be glad that the expected smoking hole was once more narrowly avoided.
Of more concern would be the corporate culture that pushed 2 pilots into landing in the conditions they did, where the prudent course would appear to have been to hold off or divert. Ultimately safety starts at the top and in an organisation where the top has no interest in safety (it costs money), therein lies a problem.

[MUFC_fan]

Could we see any major LCC launch a base in the Canary Islands?

If so I would guess it would be FR from TFS.

Opening destinations from TFS to Europe would make a killing on inflight products and pretty much every airport they serve would be able to suit atleast 3x weekly flights. Take LPL fo example - TFS and FUE must be two of the highest load factors of any route on the FR network.

Will it happen in the near future?

[daz211]

I cant understand why Ryanair have not started flights to TFS from STN ,the route would make a killing, even on a twice daily

LPA would be nice .

[MUFC_fan]

daz211

Agree with you on both comment there.

Would have thought TFS would be a LTN destination which seems to get the longer flights (Marrakesh and Malta etc.) but STN would definately be able to take atleast 10x weekly. But isn't STN in MOL's bad books at the mo?

I think LPA is definately a future destination but is it not alot more expensive to serve? LPA seems to be more upmarket and the airport is known for it's high charges.

Would ACE not be first?

Just imagine - TFS-LPA domestic!