The reason Cityjet are marketing so much is that the incentives offered by the combined SNN lobby were to say the least massive, and as they took the risk fair play to them. However, since Ryanair announced the Shannon base routes have not been dedided solely on commercial merit but more on the basis of who we damage most, particularly Galway and to an extent Cork and also anybody else operating from Shannon. Looking at the SNN business case without FR they have lost nearly every other european operator, the EI deal on transatlantic has been watered substantially and when the troops dry up who knows what's for SNN, there is no plan, because there can't be Ryanair run the show. How many routes out of the West of Ireland have been started by FR only to be dropped, when it suited them or when the competition had been quashed by preadtory pricing. These routes will never be operated again by Ryanair or indeed any other carrier. When these routes are dropped are the punitive measures in the new route contract being properly applied by Shannon, indeed new routes that come about by creating capacity through closing another should not receive any discounts. Regrettably for SNN and the West of Ireland the tourist economy will be dictated by MOL in a few years and that base will be a fraction of its current size. It was a bad day for the West of Ireland when SNN agreed that deal, hopefully someone from the EU will start looking at this very very closely! Ryanair and MOL have been great for this country and balancing air travel, however in the case of Shannon they are in my view a disaster.