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With FR entering the LBA marketplace in a larger capacity, will LS refocus its operations on one of their other larger stations, such as NCL or MAN? Are there any under served routes left for them at MAN, or is there scope for expansion? Does NCL hold any major expansion possibilities for LS?
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Apprently Transwede, an off the cuff remark was made by PM that plans would go ahead for expansion at NCL.
Latest rumor is now 2 75's for S10 with 5 new routes...................
Latest rumor is now 2 75's for S10 with 5 new routes...................
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With FR entering the LBA marketplace in a larger capacity, will LS refocus its operations on one of their other larger stations, such as NCL or MAN? Are there any under served routes left for them at MAN, or is there scope for expansion? Does NCL hold any major expansion possibilities for LS?
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Personally I don't think FR will have a major impact on LS at LBA, at least I hope not.
FR will attract the short break passenger type who can take advantage of their low fares by travelling with hand baggage only.
LS on the other hand should retain the majority of existing customers and indeed attract new custom with the introduction of new routes, specifically those who must take hold baggage which I would imagine is the vast majority of holiday passengers.
LS are spot on with their current advertising campaign regarding cost of hold baggage.
FR will attract the short break passenger type who can take advantage of their low fares by travelling with hand baggage only.
LS on the other hand should retain the majority of existing customers and indeed attract new custom with the introduction of new routes, specifically those who must take hold baggage which I would imagine is the vast majority of holiday passengers.
LS are spot on with their current advertising campaign regarding cost of hold baggage.
Jet2 vs Ryanair
Can I just say, that despite my previous posts regarding seat allocation on Jet2 , I would NEVER let any of my relatives fly Ryanair [yes I've
said it] regardless of cost, compared to Jet2 - or indeed any other carrier.
{and before any Ryanair lackey comes on to take issue with my comments, the last time I flew Ryanair, they brought forward the time of my flight with no notice, causing me and Mrs Wowzz to miss our flight, and at check-in the Ryanair clerk, when she could be bothered to speak, swore blind that they had e-mailed me to let me know of the change in departure time - some 18 months later I am still waiting for the e-mail to arrive!}
Jet2 may not be that cheap, but at least they do provide a full and professional service, as evidenced by their response on this forum. I, for one, hope that Ryanair fail dismally in their attempt to develop LBA - but in my heart of hearts believe that this is unlikely.
said it] regardless of cost, compared to Jet2 - or indeed any other carrier.
{and before any Ryanair lackey comes on to take issue with my comments, the last time I flew Ryanair, they brought forward the time of my flight with no notice, causing me and Mrs Wowzz to miss our flight, and at check-in the Ryanair clerk, when she could be bothered to speak, swore blind that they had e-mailed me to let me know of the change in departure time - some 18 months later I am still waiting for the e-mail to arrive!}
Jet2 may not be that cheap, but at least they do provide a full and professional service, as evidenced by their response on this forum. I, for one, hope that Ryanair fail dismally in their attempt to develop LBA - but in my heart of hearts believe that this is unlikely.
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WOWZZ
I have no connection with Jet2 whatsoever, in fact although I have used them from Manchester on several occasions, they are not my airline of choice.
I do however acknowledge the benefits that Jet2 have brought for millions of passengers by providing good affordable air services from their local airport.
I have no connection with Jet2 whatsoever, in fact although I have used them from Manchester on several occasions, they are not my airline of choice.
I do however acknowledge the benefits that Jet2 have brought for millions of passengers by providing good affordable air services from their local airport.
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Originally Posted by TSR2
I do however acknowledge the benefits that Jet2 have brought for millions of passengers by providing good affordable air services from their local airport.
I have read some earlier posts on one line check in and seats:-
Originally Posted by apaul
It's still a mad system that gives the worst seats to those that check-in online earliest.
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I'll say it again, because some of the gossip in here defies logic...
Why would Jet2 run from LBA - their main base - and focus their efforts elsewhere? FR has 34 bases and that figure will grow. If Jet2 focus their efforts elsewhere, Ryanair will just go there in bigger numbers too.
Jet2 will fight Ryanair hand-to-hand at Leeds, some things will change, routes will be cut and both airlines will bend and wriggle etc etc, but ultimately they will just co-exist.
If Jet2 don't have an appetite for fighting Ryanair in their established stronghold, then they can't hope to compete with the likes of Ryanair or others elsewhere. It's this reason why Jet2 aren't about to crumble and retreat from running services out of LBA. Yes, they may strengthen their offering from elsewhere, but they know full well that Ryanair are omni-present wherever they go in the UK, so the two airlines just have to fight it out and carve their own markets, which will probably see Jet2 expanding further into holidays and charters while maintaining a strong lo-co offering too.
The two airlines will simply have a hostile-ish co-existence at LBA. That's for sure.
Why would Jet2 run from LBA - their main base - and focus their efforts elsewhere? FR has 34 bases and that figure will grow. If Jet2 focus their efforts elsewhere, Ryanair will just go there in bigger numbers too.
Jet2 will fight Ryanair hand-to-hand at Leeds, some things will change, routes will be cut and both airlines will bend and wriggle etc etc, but ultimately they will just co-exist.
If Jet2 don't have an appetite for fighting Ryanair in their established stronghold, then they can't hope to compete with the likes of Ryanair or others elsewhere. It's this reason why Jet2 aren't about to crumble and retreat from running services out of LBA. Yes, they may strengthen their offering from elsewhere, but they know full well that Ryanair are omni-present wherever they go in the UK, so the two airlines just have to fight it out and carve their own markets, which will probably see Jet2 expanding further into holidays and charters while maintaining a strong lo-co offering too.
The two airlines will simply have a hostile-ish co-existence at LBA. That's for sure.
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Seems to me that if the number of Jet2 bedwetters on here is mirrored in the travelling public as a whole they'll be all right. Plenty of the "more money than sense" brigade even with the financial situation as it is. But I suspect that market forces will prevail, and the Ryanair tidal wave will be hard for them turn back. Either way consumers at LBA will benefit, as long as the competition is there.
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Frankfurt_Cowboy.
And when Ryanair have cornered the market and have a monopoly. Given their track record of high hidden charges, then won't they become another BA?.
Best bring back Canute to try and sort FR out before it's to late
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And when Ryanair have cornered the market and have a monopoly. Given their track record of high hidden charges, then won't they become another BA?.
Best bring back Canute to try and sort FR out before it's to late
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Frankfurt_Cowboy. - I fail to see the logic in your 'more money than sense' comment. Having flown with most of the UK locos I have found RYR to be no cheaper and, in many cases, more expensive when all factors are taken into account. We very rarely travel with less than 15kg baggage so cost is up, I pay with card, more expensive, if I lose my pre printed boarding card or printer decides to run out of ink, more cash please. This is before you start hitting problems such as cancellation, service - £1 a minute please.
If you want to go to AMS for a couple of nights with hand luggage only, fair enough, but dont think of bringing back any bottles of alcohol that are not available here.
I would never use them again.
If you want to go to AMS for a couple of nights with hand luggage only, fair enough, but dont think of bringing back any bottles of alcohol that are not available here.
I would never use them again.
