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getting back to fuel burn. the 757s have been fitted with the new light weight seats which are about 500kg lighter, off set that against the 500kg weight of the winglets and jet2 could get some good results on fuel saving.
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May be a daft question, but just returned from TFS last night on LSAD, noticed this on the outbound as well (same a/c), but is there a reason for no row 3? I could understand row 13 being missing, but row 3 seems to be an odd one.
New interior looks absolutely smashing, loads of room in the front rows
New interior looks absolutely smashing, loads of room in the front rows
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Graham, i think you answered the question in your question. i believe that it's because they offer extra legroom seats in the first couple of rows that one row had to be eliminates. considering the configuration of the back of the aircraft remained the same, it seem sensible to take a row number from the front.
of course, i stand to be corrected...........
of course, i stand to be corrected...........
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I've thought the same about Glasgow as Jet2 is kinda the more look a like airline to what Globespan was, plus the chance to offer flights to Paris, Amsterdam, Prague, etc, like they do from other bases. Really don't know why, either because there's no interest or they're talking and considering it but no negociations yet or there are no aircrafts available at the moment to start up a new base now.
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Has Jet2 ever looked at serving Glasgow? I Find It strange they have not attempted to serve Glasgow - especially since the collapse of GlobeSpan.
Whatever the reason, IMO Jet2 are missing out on an opportunely to make an absolute mint. You just need to look at the fares Globespan charged from Glasgow and their load factor on their Glasgow routes.
If Jet2 did offer flights from Glasgow it would instantly be the airlines second biggest market in the UK.
However the longer Jet2 stay way from Glasgow the harder it will be for them to enter this market as I believe both easyJet and Ryanair have plans to expand from Glasgow in 2011.
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Globespan & Jet2 'shared' assets for a couple of years. I believe Globespan wet leased a B737 to Jet2.com for Ops from EDI.
I also believe that while Globespan was alive there was a 'gentleman's agreement' between TD & PM that Jet2.com wouldn't launch or expand existing services from Globespan's established Scottish bases & Globespan wouldn't launch Short haul services from Jet2.com's Northern England stations.
I guess it's open season now on routes ex-Scotland. Egypt, Canada, Orlando, The Canaries , Turkey & Cyprus ALL need servicing now from Scottish cities.
Interesting times ahead....
I also believe that while Globespan was alive there was a 'gentleman's agreement' between TD & PM that Jet2.com wouldn't launch or expand existing services from Globespan's established Scottish bases & Globespan wouldn't launch Short haul services from Jet2.com's Northern England stations.
I guess it's open season now on routes ex-Scotland. Egypt, Canada, Orlando, The Canaries , Turkey & Cyprus ALL need servicing now from Scottish cities.
Interesting times ahead....
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I guess it's open season now on routes ex-Scotland. Egypt, Canada, Orlando, The Canaries , Turkey & Cyprus ALL need servicing now from Scottish cities.
Is there really a great demand for some of these services?
Did scots support Globespan because it was Scottish?.
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They have added a few limited routes/frequencies at EDI since GSMs demise and the article mentioned did say there was "no reason they wouldn't fly from GLA" but they were focussed on EDI for the moment. It then quoted Jet2 management as saying this was because there was more inbound demand to EDI, but this seemed a bit odd imo given that most of their routes from EDI are med/sun routes - I doubt any of them really carry that many inbound pax. Even if they did, I would've thought competing directly with FR would've wiped out any gains.
Irresepctive of this, GLA is still a big market with a large gap in service at the moment. Even though the charter carriers have improved service, people still want scheduled flights to the med/canaries for flexibility and FR are not everyone's cup of tea. There are significant openings in city type routes as well. There is significant demand undoubtedly to the Canaries at the very least, given GSM flew pretty much daily year-round to TFS and had very good loads (fares were not cheap either). Even if for some reason Jet2 are not interested in serving other routes from GLA, I'm surprised they've not at least got a 757 in there operating to TFS.
Irresepctive of this, GLA is still a big market with a large gap in service at the moment. Even though the charter carriers have improved service, people still want scheduled flights to the med/canaries for flexibility and FR are not everyone's cup of tea. There are significant openings in city type routes as well. There is significant demand undoubtedly to the Canaries at the very least, given GSM flew pretty much daily year-round to TFS and had very good loads (fares were not cheap either). Even if for some reason Jet2 are not interested in serving other routes from GLA, I'm surprised they've not at least got a 757 in there operating to TFS.
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Ok, there was an agreement that Jet2 wouldn't launch or expand existing services from Globespan's established bases, but as GSM's not operating anymore that should be over. Glasgow has a big market, and even with Easyjet and charters around there is definetly room for Jet2. If there is for EMA, there is for GLA, even if only one 757 (like EMA) to SSH, TFS, LPA, ALC, AGP, FAO, PMI, PFO... Surely would be sucessful, let's see if anything happens. But of course if they take too long, other airlines will take over sooner or later.. Jet2's EDI base isn't really an alternative as just a few 733 and not that many routes on offer. No Canaries or Egypt whatsoever.
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I guess it's open season now on routes ex-Scotland. Egypt, Canada, Orlando, The Canaries , Turkey & Cyprus ALL need servicing now from Scottish cities.
The fact that nobody appears to be in a great rush to service most of these routes could tell its own story.
Is there really a great demand for some of these services?
Did scots support Globespan because it was Scottish?.
Is there really a great demand for some of these services?
Did scots support Globespan because it was Scottish?.
Virgin Atlantic have added extra flights from Glasgow to Orlando and they will add even more flight on this route next year.
Ryanair have based a 6th aircraft at Glasgow Prestwick and a 7th will follow next April.
Thomas Cook are basing 7 aircraft at Glasgow this summer, compared to 5 last summer.
Thomas Cook have also added extra flights from Glasgow to Orlando, Florida.
Thomson Airways have added extra flights from Glasgow to Orlando, Florida.
Air Transat and Thomas Cook have added extra flights from Glasgow to Toronto.
Kiss Flights are launching 14 routes from Glasgow this year.
Barrhead Travel are operating their own charter flights from Glasgow this year.
To top it all off, easyJet will be expanding in the "near future" from Glasgow.
I cant actually believe you are questioning whether there is demand for these flights from Glasgow! Like I said above, Globespan had competition on every route it operated to/from Glasgow and Glasgow still has direct flights to every destination Globespan offered.
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DADDY-OH!
Jet2 never wet leased an aircraft from GSM is was actually GSM that wet leased from Channel Express (Jet2) for ops from EDI and GLA. GSM started the airine with 2x wet leased Channel express 737-300s in April 2003.
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Thomas Cook are basing 7 aircraft at Glasgow this summer, compared to 5 last summer
higher in school holiday weeks on certain days but thats about it....
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I can only see it as 5 or sometimes 6 on the odd day.....
higher in school holiday weeks on certain days but thats about it....
higher in school holiday weeks on certain days but thats about it....
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Possible reason for getting rid could be the projected cost of the next heavy check rumour has it there going to need some pretty serious very costly structural repairs come the next C check due to the usual ageing aircraft corrosion issues