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I am no expert on fuel consumption etc.
However, I would expect that on an SSH run, a 757 would be more economic during the high summer months would it not? It would breeze down that runway with no problems what soever and the climb would be p*ss for that aircraft. Am I wrong?
However, I would expect that on an SSH run, a 757 would be more economic during the high summer months would it not? It would breeze down that runway with no problems what soever and the climb would be p*ss for that aircraft. Am I wrong?
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PH...
guys' just wondered if these fuel burn figures for the 757 are with or without the winglets fitted?
You can find lots of data on the winglets here: AERO - Blended Winglets Improve Performance
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winglets
thanks dw.
i read somewhere that on average it can take 2to3 years to recoup the money spent on having winglets fitted against the cost of fuel, with the cost of fuel rising all the time and the age of the fleet is it benifical to have the whole fleet (wingleted)or just a few that are used on the longer routes.
ph.
i read somewhere that on average it can take 2to3 years to recoup the money spent on having winglets fitted against the cost of fuel, with the cost of fuel rising all the time and the age of the fleet is it benifical to have the whole fleet (wingleted)or just a few that are used on the longer routes.
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Don't know!
Anecdotally I've heard the cost of winglets for a B752 anywhere between $1m and $1.8m - apparently it involves a wing spar mod, so it is serious engineering.
I guess the effectiveness would be a complex formula of average sector lengths, payload, annual hours flown, and number of years you expect to keep the airframe, at a bare minimum. In reality, it's probably far more complex.
DW.
Anecdotally I've heard the cost of winglets for a B752 anywhere between $1m and $1.8m - apparently it involves a wing spar mod, so it is serious engineering.
I guess the effectiveness would be a complex formula of average sector lengths, payload, annual hours flown, and number of years you expect to keep the airframe, at a bare minimum. In reality, it's probably far more complex.
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agreed its far more complexed than it first appears, apparently its quite major surgery and not just a case of bolting them on the end of the wings as some people might think. it must give the bean counters a few headaches trying to work out if its going to be cost effective in the long run especially if the a/c gets used a lot on shorter routes.
ph.
agreed its far more complexed than it first appears, apparently its quite major surgery and not just a case of bolting them on the end of the wings as some people might think. it must give the bean counters a few headaches trying to work out if its going to be cost effective in the long run especially if the a/c gets used a lot on shorter routes.
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It is indeed a major modification, which is why you get extra inspections added and some of your existing structural inspections intervals are reduced.
So your fuel savings have to be weighed up against your extra maintenance costs.
So your fuel savings have to be weighed up against your extra maintenance costs.
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Kevlarkarl, do you know something we don't all know about the Jet2 fleet being grounded or staff being on strike?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Travelled through LBA this morning and the Jet2 fleet was rather busy. The summer schedule for Jet2 is well under way now so most of the fleet is rather busy.
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Know what you mean carl they do seem to be sat about doing not a lot at present but im sure there not grounded or on strike, things will pick up for them soon i reckon
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Why do certain members always have nothing else to do than drag Jet2 down. We all know why a lot of the Jet2 fleet sit around during the Winter months and there is no way that any staff have been on strike or for that matter are Jet2 in trouble.
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Wouldnt have thought fuel burn must be much of a problem for jet 2 at present most of their fleet appear to be grounded, are you guys on strike or something?
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Cherrylock - Jet2 are not in trouble and there is definately NOT a strike!
Jet2 are well and truly ramping up for a busy summer season.
As regards the retrofit of winglets to an aircraft, it's not just the cost of materials and fitting VS the fuel savings that need to be considered. Also remember the ferry costs to/from the relevant maintenance site and the costs to have an aircraft out of action for a few weeks. Granted, that some money can be saved by haveing other checks performed on the aircraft at the same time.
As regards the retrofit of winglets to an aircraft, it's not just the cost of materials and fitting VS the fuel savings that need to be considered. Also remember the ferry costs to/from the relevant maintenance site and the costs to have an aircraft out of action for a few weeks. Granted, that some money can be saved by haveing other checks performed on the aircraft at the same time.
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unbelivable. someone makes a stupid comment and it gets blown out of all proportion
jet2 are not in trouble and not on strike,and by all accounts are in line for a very busy summer,they have spent a vast amount of money on advertising on tv etc,buying new aircraft and refurbishing most of the fleet, and hiring new staff,now does that sound like their in trouble?
jet2 are not in trouble and not on strike,and by all accounts are in line for a very busy summer,they have spent a vast amount of money on advertising on tv etc,buying new aircraft and refurbishing most of the fleet, and hiring new staff,now does that sound like their in trouble?