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Old 1st Feb 2010, 21:18
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so are you saying there are safety issues depending on who maintains the aircraft?
if no then i agree with wanna be there post 2999.
p.s. welcome to pprune m8
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 22:06
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Nods in agreement purplehelmat: If it gets you there safely: Who cares who did the maintenance?.

I have flown plenty with JET2, and trust them to make sure their a/c are maintained.

simonchowder: I wonder which high lown cost airline operates from "Luton"
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 22:52
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As regard to Jet2 maintenance I have flown with them now for 2 years, very rare are there carried over defects, there are engineers at every base maintaining the aircraft EVERY night. Previously i flew for a well know flag carrier airline, the maintenance there was nowhere near the standards at Jet2, there were often yellow stickers everywhere with defects often deferred to the next hangar input etc (perfectly legal). The problem there was most of the aircraft nightstopped away from base and so there was no overnight maintenance cover, as a result the aircraft were in a very poor state. Jet2 currently does not night fly its 757 fleet and as so the aircraft are pampered. I cannot remember the last time i saw a yellow sticker with a deferred defect!
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Old 1st Feb 2010, 23:29
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Smudge'

By "validity" I meant if an ADD was still 'open' or if the defect had been rectified, & signed off, thereby 'closed'. I don't think I ever saw an 'open' ADD at GSM since March 2008. The GSM/BCT cover was THAT good.

There's a shocker for you, Smudge, it was GSM that I worked for & yes their serviceability rates left a fair bit to be desired for a period & yes their reputation suffered.

After November 2007 when a new DFO was appointed & we had CAA audit after CAA audit, eventually, GSM Maintrol & Engineering eventually got it's sh*t together. When GSM finally met it's demise, the standard of Line support was 1st rate.

Like I stated earlier, I know a couple of GSM's 'own' B767 engineers were ex-MON & the 'connies' were ex- just about every UK major B757/767 operator. And as a result, BCT provided GSM with the same thoroughly professional service for a fraction of MON's price.

MON are excellent but there are more affordable options of an equal standard.

Top Drawer doesn't always have to be Top Dollar.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 00:05
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Thats quite amazing daddy , the GSM 767,s i worked on hangar checks must have two tech logs then, as we rectified no end of carried forward defects ,you must have had the other one
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 01:04
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What are you inferring, Smudge'?

If you're getting specific, I operated mainly on the Air India contract (KLM support) & the MoD ACMI's & Falkland's run (BCT). I take it you work for Monarch, Smudge'. Well done on a cracking job with the pinning the spar on 'FG & re-config'ing its Air Evac fit. I don't doubt MON are very good but they aren't exceptional.

The MoD ACMI & Falkland's aircraft had period of 17 hours, another of 36 hours downtime at Brize' & 20 hours twice every week in Mount Pleasant which is where most of the sched' (& occasional unsched') maintenance was completed. It helps when the aircraft is accompanied on every sector by a BCT engineer, fly away kit & they always looked ahead in the OOPs & carried components that would need replacing while the aircraft was away from base. But if it was approaching a major check, sure, leave some niggly ADD's open!! For what MON charge, old TD was going to get his money's worth & pound of flesh!

I take it you have 'issues' with competing maint. providers & deem that anybody but Monarch isn't worthy? Well get your head from up your arse, Laddie! From what I've seen in operating B757/767's for 10 years when it comes to Line support for B757's & B767's MON Eng. AREN'T elite by any means. They are comparable to FCA, TOM, KLM & BCT but no better than these & more expensive than most others.

To get back on track, I travel with Jet2 frequently to TFS, BFS & AGP & have for the last 3 years. I admit there have been a couple of tech issues of the B733 fleet but I've never been delayed due tech. problems while travelling on their B757's. I have no doubt the forthcoming B767 will enjoy the same dispatch success, as it's the same team looking after the B767 as the B757 fleet.

And for the umpteenth time... Top Drawer doesn't mean Top Dollar.

If you want to squabble about it, start your own thread. This thread is about Jet2 & their tech. support set up & from what I've seen, they're doing fine & will continue to do so. Get over it & move on!!!

Good night, Smudge'
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 08:53
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well said daddy-oh! a few people would do well to remember this is the jet2 thread not monarch..
cant be far off now before jet2 get a 767 or two,i think theres plenty of scope for them on new routes and on some of
the existing ones.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 09:00
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Exactamundo, Purplehelmet!
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 10:19
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Just out of interest Daddy Oh who were looking after your aircraft when you got into dreadfull trouble with the CAA over shoddy maintenance which resulted in the CAA taking the very unusual step of banning you from operating EROPS?
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 11:56
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can we get back to a jet2 thread please? wtf has this got to do with flyglobespan or monarch maintenance?
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 15:55
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Are jet2 planning on buying any new aeroplanes? surely the fact they seem to break down more often than say monarchs do is because their very old, you cannot blame the people looking after them, im sure they do their best you could liken it to having a twenty year old car things go wrong all the time.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 16:03
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cherrylock, where do you get your information and comparisons on aircraft technical breakdowns? This constant comparison to monarch is boring and irrelivant now, Jet2 fleet is well maintained and i very much doubt have any more technical issues than any other airline, in fact if there were published figures i would place money on J2 being higher in reliability, simply because ZB has a higher utilisation of airframes in the summer than LS.

Now can the monarch and globespan posters please go to their respective threads.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 16:15
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Sorry i dont have any technical information its just what everyone seems to say about jet 2,that their aeroplanes are very old and they break down a lot, ive only flown with them once and we were unlucky enough to break down which caused a long delay, monarch however seem to be very reliable and their planes seem to be very new, however if ive got my facts wrong forgive me, finally i must say the jet 2 staff were wonderfull
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 16:54
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Grrr

Not all Monarch airframes are new, just look up how old the A300 fleet is.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 17:45
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cherrylock..... you've been spending too much time around Simon chunder.... or what ever his name is! Cherry..... lets play a little game! What year do you think Monarch's 757's were built? And then the same for Jet2?? what do you recon? Answers on a post card please.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 17:49
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OK. Back to Jet2.....

If, as expected, the B763s arrive within the next 12 months, would Jet2:

A) Sell B763 seats all year round
B) Have them sit on the ground for the winter (As per the other fleets)
C) Enter the winter ACMI market.

Wild speculation welcome.....

LJ
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 18:08
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Serious question have jet 2 grounded their fleet? i was up at MAN T2 this afternoon and place is full of jet 2 old smokers doing nothing, whats going on?
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 18:13
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Simon.... when will you give it up??? They are sat on the ramp taking a rest! Better there than flying random unprofitable routes in this quiet time of year. You would be the first to complain if they were operating to CFU with a 20% load factor!
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 18:32
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Jet2 aircraft

Most of the Jet2 aircraft are always going tech, last summer there was always something wrong with a 75. Their all old sheds that are only fit for the scrap man. Monarch have a nice up to date fleet of aeroplanes.
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Old 2nd Feb 2010, 18:39
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Most of the Jet2 aircraft are always going tech
On what evidence do you base this statement?
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