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Correct me people if i am wrong but i am sure that i read somewhere that BA are to take over the LGW-GIB route when Easyjet officially takes over the GB routes. Would be good though to have the MAN-GIB route reinstated.
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,,,must confess far from expanding I would be more worried about the loss of more BMI long haul routes Ex Manchester.
I understand they are losing a shedload of money although quite why with a a good product and excellent domestic feed remains a mystery. Not sure how fares compare so is this the reason ..?
Like many others I thought they had fully embraced MAN when they started not realising it was just simply a proving ground for services from the great God LHR.
I understand they are losing a shedload of money although quite why with a a good product and excellent domestic feed remains a mystery. Not sure how fares compare so is this the reason ..?
Like many others I thought they had fully embraced MAN when they started not realising it was just simply a proving ground for services from the great God LHR.
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I`m sure a lot of airlines have put a contingency plan in place but as to whether it involves Manchester? but I`m sure that the BAA will try and avoid the strike because it will be so costly to them in the short and long term future
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Dont get too excited, going off recent responses to problems ie weather, I suspect that the airlines will just cancel all flights as the logistics of operating any sort of transfer of services will just be too great to manage, eayjet and Ryanair will probably shut up shop for the day as will BA European and Domestic. With notice I think the long haul airlines will either cancel or delay flights. The only way other airports would benefit is if there were wildcat strikes and flights were already airborne.
Just my opinion
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One of the key factors to remember is that MAN itself has frequent scheduled services to all seven BAA Airports in the UK: LHR / LGW / STN / SOU / GLA / EDI / ABZ. Services to all of these would be lost.
Whilst there is always a possibility of picking up *some* extras - with the provisos mentioned by previous posters above - MAN would actually need a substantial haul to avoid showing a deficit on the whole sorry affair.
But we can still hope for the occasional gem for enthusiasts!
SHED.
Whilst there is always a possibility of picking up *some* extras - with the provisos mentioned by previous posters above - MAN would actually need a substantial haul to avoid showing a deficit on the whole sorry affair.
But we can still hope for the occasional gem for enthusiasts!
SHED.
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Dont think BAA will be liable, they will have to sue the union !!, I think a joint multi million law suit from all the airlines effected would just about see off the union for good.
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I dont think its shortage of slots, its the lack of logistical ability to handle excessive extra movements, Manchester Airport can handle an impressive number of movements and has many spare stands, an example being the Champions league final a number of years ago, but at this time of the year staffing levels in all areas are chopped to the bone, with not much flexibility to increase at short notice. I think you will find it is the handling agents that are declining handling requests.
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The difference between the possible strikes and the guaranteed Champions League final is just that. The strikes may happen. Around 12 months of planning went into the Champions League Final when at Manchester. Best case Manchester has had 3 weeks notice of iminent strikes. On CL day runway 2 was used as a extended ramp with countless exec jets and MD's parked over there. There is simply no time to set this up in time logistically.
I believe however tech problem is partly correct. It is not a case of no slots being available any more it is just the fact all slot applications are being handled manually for these particular dates.
If the strikes go ahead, the traditional handlers of Ad-Hoc flights, Ocean Sky and Flight Support are no doubt going to be busy as well as Servisair in particular who have a hell of alot of 'diversion' contracts on their books. Lets just hope BAA sort out this mess and the 7th, 14th, 17th & 18th are just normal days at the office.
I believe however tech problem is partly correct. It is not a case of no slots being available any more it is just the fact all slot applications are being handled manually for these particular dates.
If the strikes go ahead, the traditional handlers of Ad-Hoc flights, Ocean Sky and Flight Support are no doubt going to be busy as well as Servisair in particular who have a hell of alot of 'diversion' contracts on their books. Lets just hope BAA sort out this mess and the 7th, 14th, 17th & 18th are just normal days at the office.
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TUIFly summer 2008
Have revised their schedule for 2008 and now all 3 routes Koln,Stutgart and Hanover will be daily ex.Sat.
Morning flights on Mon & Tues, evenings on Sun,Wed,Thu & Fri.
Playamar2
Morning flights on Mon & Tues, evenings on Sun,Wed,Thu & Fri.
Playamar2
TUI to HAJ S08
Playamar, this was brought to our attention in post #1572 last week by Viscount.
The morning departures would enable some possible connections with X3 further afield ( albeit on a point to point basis)
Its a shame we haven't got a lo co on the TXL or MUC (yet)
The morning departures would enable some possible connections with X3 further afield ( albeit on a point to point basis)
Its a shame we haven't got a lo co on the TXL or MUC (yet)
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We had a lo-co to Berlin, albeit SXF, but we dropped it on account of it being under-utilised. What makes TXL so different
Bit like a lot of the routes we've started and subsequently dropped, for which we have been castigated
, but if people had supported these routes they'd still be served. We can't be expected to continue to operate services that don't get adequate load factors.
Bit like a lot of the routes we've started and subsequently dropped, for which we have been castigated
, but if people had supported these routes they'd still be served. We can't be expected to continue to operate services that don't get adequate load factors.
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ls jet2...
Agreed. However if Jet2 had put more thought and effort into their new routes and maybe given them a bit of time to flourish, then they may have been more successful. Another PRG service on a saturated route, a 1 x daily to CDG in the middle of the day (surprisingly still operating), a 1900 departure to TLS & a 1925 departure to BCN are not attractive!
Unusually I agree with ZB.
The bucket & spade flights leave at times when the city flights should be going.
The BCN times were hopeless.
WAW was dropped in favour of the saturated PRG, leaving it now for Central Wings to mop up.
TXL is much closer to the city than SXF, & at the time BACON flew to TXL, for many business people TXL was prefered.
The LS route strategy appears to be ill thought out & erratic as far as MAN is concerned.
The bucket & spade flights leave at times when the city flights should be going.
The BCN times were hopeless.
WAW was dropped in favour of the saturated PRG, leaving it now for Central Wings to mop up.
TXL is much closer to the city than SXF, & at the time BACON flew to TXL, for many business people TXL was prefered.
The LS route strategy appears to be ill thought out & erratic as far as MAN is concerned.
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Another example of a bad timing route is the Volareweb to Milan Malpensa (soon to be dropped) That arrives MXP just before midnight, so by the time you get transport to the city its 1 AM, what good is that to business and short break pax. I flew on it recently 30 pax outbound, 30 pax inbound.