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Manchester Airport Website
The above has received a well deserved update and imho a very much easier and more friendly lay-out
By doing a search on a particular destination you can check up to 3 days in advance
The time table info is nice as well
Ian
By doing a search on a particular destination you can check up to 3 days in advance
The time table info is nice as well
Ian
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DWLPL, so that means EZY will operate from MAN, to at least the GB destinations, until Oct 08 ? So, if I wanted to book a GB route ex MAN, for say next September, then I would book on the EZY website (eventually) ?
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Thats what I thought ! i.e. MAN GB flights would be honoured until EZY took over early next year, but this is the first I have heard that flights will continue through the summer until October. Flights are bookable until that date on BA.com - showing operated by GB Airways with a BA flight number !!
Is this confirmation, albiet unofficial, of EZY staying at MAN, that everyone seems to want ?
Surely they wouldnt keep things going for just one summer season, would they ?
Is this confirmation, albiet unofficial, of EZY staying at MAN, that everyone seems to want ?
Surely they wouldnt keep things going for just one summer season, would they ?
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Easyjet
Did the purchase of GB Airways involve the aircraft?
If so it could be a FlyBe situation using the ex aircraft
until the end of summer 08 - or transferring the ops
to another departure airport (Gatwick) via a BA shuttle
or can you cram a 320/321 load onto a 319 (I know its
Easy but!!!).
MM
Did the purchase of GB Airways involve the aircraft?
If so it could be a FlyBe situation using the ex aircraft
until the end of summer 08 - or transferring the ops
to another departure airport (Gatwick) via a BA shuttle
or can you cram a 320/321 load onto a 319 (I know its
Easy but!!!).
MM
Perhaps the revelation that the GCX's salary had gone down not up that year was too much.
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DWLPL, so that means EZY will operate from MAN, to at least the GB destinations, until Oct 08 ? So, if I wanted to book a GB route ex MAN, for say next September, then I would book on the EZY website (eventually) ?
But the EZY website quotes "easyJet will co-operate with British Airways to ensure a smooth and orderly transition for customers. To this end GB Airways will continue to operate all routes under the British Airways brand until March 29th, 2008 after which flights will operate under the easyJet brand."
On the other hand EZY does not mention MAN anywhere other than GB operates exMAN now. They only ever mention Gatwick, slots and aircraft.
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The GB Airways/easyJet MAN saga was one of the queries in one of last week's Sunday tabloid travel Q+A. I think the answer was any firm decision is to be made in January, but flights definitely running up to the end of the winter season.
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Ringway Handling
Baggage handlers face redundancy
30/11/2007
MORE than 180 baggage handlers face being made redundant in a pre-Christmas jobs shock at Manchester Airport.
Bosses say they need to make cuts at Ringway Handling Services because it is making a loss in a `fiercely competitive' market.
But union leaders have slammed the `appalling management' of the firm and say the proposal to cut 188 posts is `a disgrace'.
They say the 139 workers set to remain with the company under the proposals would have to take up inferior contracts, seeing them lose between £50 and £80 a week in wages.
Steve Grieves, of the union Unite, said: "Our members are committed to Manchester Airport. We intend to fight to reduce the redundancies to a bare minimum, and to protect the terms and conditions of our already lowly-paid members."
Ringway Handling Services is an independent subsidiary of the Manchester Airports Group (MAG) and serves a number of airlines and handling agents. It is one of several baggage handling firms operating in the terminals, but is having difficulty competing against big global operators.
No alternative
The group says several key contracts have been lost and it has `no alternative' but to reduce the size of the business.
A 90-day consultation is now underway with workers and union leaders.
Mr Grieves said: "You have to ask why Ringway Handling is not making a profit. It's always had enough business. The workforce is always fully employed and they win awards for the service they provide.
"But Ringway Handling has had 10 managers in nine years and, every time there is a problem with the business, they decide to restructure or cut the wages of the employees." An aiport spokesman said: "The baggage handling market is fiercely competitive with many airlines having multi-site deals across the world with global handling agents making it difficult for smaller companies like Ringway's baggage handling business to compete.
"For this reason, the Ringway Handling has been making a loss for some time. Although we have been working hard to secure its long term future, several significant contracts have been lost. We are therefore left with no alternative but to reduce the size of the business."
rampman
30/11/2007
MORE than 180 baggage handlers face being made redundant in a pre-Christmas jobs shock at Manchester Airport.
Bosses say they need to make cuts at Ringway Handling Services because it is making a loss in a `fiercely competitive' market.
But union leaders have slammed the `appalling management' of the firm and say the proposal to cut 188 posts is `a disgrace'.
They say the 139 workers set to remain with the company under the proposals would have to take up inferior contracts, seeing them lose between £50 and £80 a week in wages.
Steve Grieves, of the union Unite, said: "Our members are committed to Manchester Airport. We intend to fight to reduce the redundancies to a bare minimum, and to protect the terms and conditions of our already lowly-paid members."
Ringway Handling Services is an independent subsidiary of the Manchester Airports Group (MAG) and serves a number of airlines and handling agents. It is one of several baggage handling firms operating in the terminals, but is having difficulty competing against big global operators.
No alternative
The group says several key contracts have been lost and it has `no alternative' but to reduce the size of the business.
A 90-day consultation is now underway with workers and union leaders.
Mr Grieves said: "You have to ask why Ringway Handling is not making a profit. It's always had enough business. The workforce is always fully employed and they win awards for the service they provide.
"But Ringway Handling has had 10 managers in nine years and, every time there is a problem with the business, they decide to restructure or cut the wages of the employees." An aiport spokesman said: "The baggage handling market is fiercely competitive with many airlines having multi-site deals across the world with global handling agents making it difficult for smaller companies like Ringway's baggage handling business to compete.
"For this reason, the Ringway Handling has been making a loss for some time. Although we have been working hard to secure its long term future, several significant contracts have been lost. We are therefore left with no alternative but to reduce the size of the business."
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In defence of Ringway, Flight Support provide a full handling package unlike Ringway who sub contract all over wing handling out to both SAS and Flight Support at Manchester. This makes Flight Support a more attractive prospect as its better for an airline to deal with one point of contact for everything rather than two.
In defence of Ringway, Flight Support provide a full handling package unlike Ringway who sub contract all over wing handling out to both SAS and Flight Support at Manchester. This makes Flight Support a more attractive prospect as its better for an airline to deal with one point of contact for everything rather than two.
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And the over wing bit is more glamorous and a higher profile than the under wing bit, if by that you mean passenger handling rather than baggage etc.
Sadly, competing against global companies with global economies of scale will always be hard. RHSL is a corner shop (service but higher price) versus Tesco (global domination, cheaper, but without the personal service).
Setting aside the personal suffering of those poor guys n gals who've worked their socks off to keep delivering a good service for so long, MA shouldn't be in this sort of market. It diverts attention from their core business of growing their airport (which they need to give plenty of attention to at the moment).
Sadly, competing against global companies with global economies of scale will always be hard. RHSL is a corner shop (service but higher price) versus Tesco (global domination, cheaper, but without the personal service).
Setting aside the personal suffering of those poor guys n gals who've worked their socks off to keep delivering a good service for so long, MA shouldn't be in this sort of market. It diverts attention from their core business of growing their airport (which they need to give plenty of attention to at the moment).
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with respects RHS are the Union not a major shareholder?? Heard from a friend, but not sure if true?
.....if so is this not a slight conflict in interests, leading to the workers, well getting screwed?
.....if so is this not a slight conflict in interests, leading to the workers, well getting screwed?
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Ideologically, why would a union own shares in a company? Not to mention the conflict of interest at pay review time.
I believe RHSL and RHL are wholly-owned by MAG, who these days are mostly owned by the banks anyway, since they mortgaged the shop to buy EMA and BOH at market value (based on profit multiplier and mortgaged on EMA and BOH) plus hefty premium (to block any other bids, mortgaged on MAN, which until then was debt-free).
I believe RHSL and RHL are wholly-owned by MAG, who these days are mostly owned by the banks anyway, since they mortgaged the shop to buy EMA and BOH at market value (based on profit multiplier and mortgaged on EMA and BOH) plus hefty premium (to block any other bids, mortgaged on MAN, which until then was debt-free).
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MAG ownership
A cursory glance at the revamped website would tell you:
"MAG is publicly owned by the ten local authorities of Greater Manchester and is privately managed on their behalf, gives us a unique insight into the value our business brings to the regions of the UK.
Our shareholders are:
The Council of the City of Manchester - 55%
The Borough Council of Bolton - 5%
The Borough Council of Bury - 5%
The Oldham Borough Council - 5%
The Rochdale Borough Council - 5%
The Council of the City of Salford - 5%
The Metropolitan Borough Council of Stockport - 5%
The Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council - 5%
The Trafford Borough Council - 5%
The Wigan Borough Council - 5%"
"MAG is publicly owned by the ten local authorities of Greater Manchester and is privately managed on their behalf, gives us a unique insight into the value our business brings to the regions of the UK.
Our shareholders are:
The Council of the City of Manchester - 55%
The Borough Council of Bolton - 5%
The Borough Council of Bury - 5%
The Oldham Borough Council - 5%
The Rochdale Borough Council - 5%
The Council of the City of Salford - 5%
The Metropolitan Borough Council of Stockport - 5%
The Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council - 5%
The Trafford Borough Council - 5%
The Wigan Borough Council - 5%"