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Old 19th Nov 2007, 22:31
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Had to help an elderley man and woman haul their bags up the escalator in T2? They shouldn't have been using the escalator even if it was working. There's a useful invention called lifts! Unfortunately passengers don't like to use them very often choosing instead to attempt to place 25kg bags on the escalator, ignoring all the signs telling them not to do so and subsequently falling down it, cutting their legs open and then trying to claim compensation!

Sorry EC-ILS not having a go at you, it just winds me up something rotten when I have to waste my valuable time dealing with an accident that could have easily been prevented if people used their common sense!
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 22:45
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Easymanager is nothing to do with me.

Presume a mod can zap the IP address of me and easymanager that will confirm it.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 06:07
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This thread is about MANCHESTER. That is the topic. Please stay on it or face deletion.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 06:27
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Sorry to upset all you hopefull guys but Easyjet is to sell all the Manchester slots from the take over


Of course they are !!! do they plan to do the same with the 10 + other slots that they have applied for at the recent slot confrence.

No less than 4 based with W pattern is the figure i am hearing being banded round.

But all heresay till it happens ****thinks back two years****
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 09:51
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FlyZB, I'm a T1 person normally. The fact T2 has been like that for a while, is no reason to say that it is OK. It isn't.
Remove some of those retails outlets & build some decent toilet facilities. I have to say it IS third world what is provided. Blocking egress with shops is bordering on criminal.
Re escalators-often people have to use them with bags, because the lifts are inadequate -even when they are working ! The railway station ones are always u/s & one of the T2 multi storey lifts has been u/s for over 4 months.
The lifts in T1 landside terminal block -call lights dont work & the floor indicator lights dont work in any of them-so you dont know where you have stopped-been like that for over 12 months.
Get real & stop trying to defend the indefensible, its third world.
Try a visit to Dusseldorf,Munich or Hamburg.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 14:47
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Why on earth would anyone buy slots at MAN??? Slots are quite easy to come by, even at peak times. Take it from someone who deals with slots EVERY DAY!

Easy may hand back the slots they inherited from GB but there is no way anyone would want to buy them as there is simply no need.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 15:14
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You know it's not my habit defending Mr Muirhead or the other controllers, fat or otherwise, but I see from MAG's accounts, recently published on the website, that the directors took less pay last year than the year before. That's not to defend the RHSL decision, about which I know little. I offer my sympathies to the workers though, and I hope it comes right for you.

On another subject, has anyone asked EasyJet's customers whether they'd like to fly from MAN rather than LPL in future? If they wanted to fly from MAN, they already would be doing so. I suspect they support EZY at LPL because the two together (airline and airport) combine to make a better product.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 16:50
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As one of those (reluctant) easyJet passengers who flies LPL-SXF often, I’d sooner fly from MAN. LPL has poor public transport & motorway links. I live in North Wales and it’s still easier to get to MAN than LPL.

The only reason I use LPL and easyJet is that there is no longer a direct MAN-Berlin service, not because the product is good. The state of the airport toilets doesn’t even come into it. For the record, "Loo of the year" goes to AMS!

easyJet have a monopoly to Berlin from the north and that’s started to be reflected in the prices they charge. The easyJet fares out of LTN and LGW are much lower (OK, they’re slightly nearer as the crow flies) but the lower fares are mainly down to competition.

So my perfect product would be MAN-Berlin with AirBerlin into TXL, but I'm guess I'm stuck with the "orange one" for some time.

There you go - you asked, I replied. Just don't shout me down for my reply folks!
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 18:11
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SkinHeadFlyer you might just get your wish of AB back on MAN-TXL if current rumours come to fruition. Rumours suggest they are re-assessing the UK market and eying potential point-to-point Germany-UK routes.

Sticking with Germany, a big article in MEN suggests Lufthansa are very pleased with their MAN operation and looking at possible expansion by using slots vacated by the worlds favorite.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 19:20
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Mr A Tis, I was simply curious to exactly what you were talking about. My duties haven't taken me airside in T2 for several months and was just wondering if you were referring to any newly constucted outlets that I wasn't aware of. Hence the reason for asking you when the last time you travelled through T2. Regarding the retail units and toilets, I agree with much of what you are saying and at no point did I offer an excuse for either of those problems. Anyway, you answered my query. Thank you.

Momentary Lapse, I think that many a passenger would choose MAN over LPL if EZY served Manchester. The convenience factor would come into play and the only reason a lot of people travel to LPL instead of MAN at the minute is because EZY offer routes currently not available from MAN and are often cheaper than the likes of WW, LS & ZB on competing routes.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 20:03
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I first used Manchester Airport in the early 60's and on a regular basis over the next 40 years for business and leisure, probably averaging twice a week for at least 25 years. For the past couple of years my travels from the airport have been strictly related to leisure and in recent months have passed through both T1 and T2 on quite a few occasions at peak times.

Whilst I would fully agree that the general condition of both terminals is nowhere near the standard of say 10 years ago, I cannot honestly say that it was an unpleasant experience in either terminal, in fact, far from it. They are what they are, just terminals from which to start a journey, not a 5 star hotel. If an escalator is not working, inconvenient may be, just use a lift. If there is a queue 10 deep waiting for pee, read a book, crack a few jokes or whistle a tune whilst waiting. It's not the end of the world. Perhaps if I toured the entire airport with a notepad and carefully recorded any defects or layouts not to my satisfaction, I probably could find cause for complaint. but believe me life is too short for that. There are far more important issues in the world.
Of course there are many airports far better than Manchester in my opinion but there are a hell of a lot more that are far worse, again, in my opinion.

Chill out chaps, keep life in perspective or you may just join the 'grumpy old men (or women)' before your time.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 20:13
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Terminal 1 CDG to name 1 terminal 2 CDG( or at least half of it) to name another, terminal CDG to name another all in my opinion not as nice as Manchester

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 21:25
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MAN teminals

I have recently travelled to SOU through T3 with Mrs Fuelboy, who is a wheelchair user, I can't believe what I saw.

Crammed seating and a section of the lounge sectioned off for yet MORE retail......

Do we really want/need the new Boots outlet or would seating/layout be a better use of the space and light. I can't understand the logic at all.

With all the PAX waiting in the morning we found it utter madness getting around with all the people herded in like sheep

I truly believe that any new building will probably be sponsored by Tesco just to cover all the shopping requirements and that you will only access the lounges by passing through the tills which will also double as check-in
Rant over .................................for now
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 02:53
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British Jet & Air Malta

OK folks - back to flights news!

Prepare to say your farewells to 'British Jet' (ie. the FlyHello MD90 operated on behalf of Maltabargains). With the imminent end of the current lease on the MD90, Maltabargains has concluded an agreement to appoint Air Malta as its new transport provider. Air Malta expects to significantly increase its carryings to the UK as a result of this deal and is set to announce additional frequencies to Britain in afew weeks time. The effect on services to MAN in particular are not yet known; however, as MAN enjoys at least daily Air Malta service anyway in peak season we may see only adjustments to aircraft type (more A320, fewer A319 for example). No doubt all will be revealed over the next few weeks. Sorry to see the last of our only regular MD90 though.
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 08:06
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What a great idea , a Tesco terminal, just think if you had more than one infront at check-in , they'd have to open another desk, all the bogofs in the duty free, and clubcard points, think of all the points you would get filling a 73 up!!
Plus being tesco, they would no doubt have the runways in full use 24hours apart from on a sunday that would a be 10-4,maybe a 11-5 in summer!!!haha

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Old 21st Nov 2007, 08:12
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Plus being tesco, they would no doubt have the runways in full use 24hours apart from on a sunday !!!haha
That would be in England only as some Tesco stores in Scotland open H24 seven days a week.

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Old 21st Nov 2007, 08:41
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Ah but if it is like our it`s the cars that have to go into the hold lol

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Old 21st Nov 2007, 09:07
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Do we really want/need the new Boots outlet or would seating/layout be a better use of the space and light. I can't understand the logic at all.
Yes T3 does need a Boots airside for one very good reason. People can now repurchase the liquids such as shampoo, etc that were confiscated at security. Also it means the staff can afford to eat and drink without having to spend 20 mins of their breaks going back landside and clearing security, again. Boots is long over due. That being said, we were told it was going where the customer service desk is and the customer service desk was moving next to the lift for the BA lounge.
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 10:02
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Toilets at T2

For anyone who doesn't know, there are some relatively nice loos upstairs in T2 (in the airline lounge area). There are supposed to be shared by the lounges, but they are open to anyone. There's never been a queue there when I've been there, and they don't smell
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 17:15
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some good news for MAN

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...._eyes_ba_slots

GERMANY'S national carrier Lufthansa is targeting Manchester and other regional airports for major growth after British Airways' near withdrawal.

The sale of BA Connect this year to Flybe and more recently GB Airways to easyJet leaves BA with just three destinations from Manchester - Heathrow, Gatwick and New York.

Marianne Sammann, Lufthansa's general manager for the UK, said: "We are seeing strong growth out of Manchester, business travel is going well. Manchester became a big opportunity for us when BA decided to abandon the regions."

Lufthansa carried almost 576,000 passengers to and from Manchester in 2006 - a 13.5 per cent increase on 2005 and setting a new airline record for the second year running...

..."Manchester is our second-largest operation outside London and we are very pleased to be in Manchester.

"More people are using us and our hubs in Frankfurt and Munich as an alternative to Heathrow.

"We are seeing enormous growth here - customers tell us that we offer a better use of their time."

Lufthansa, is the second-largest scheduled airline after bmi in Manchester. It operates 85 flights a week to four destinations - Frankfurt, Munich, Dusseldorf and Hamburg..

More than half of passengers flying out of Manchester transfer to onward connections in the airline's global network. The most popular inward destinations being India and China.

"India is a very big market for us. More than half our UK sales to Mumbai come from Manchester, while we have also seen growth in our routes to Pakistan."

Very interesting and no doubt this will certainly add fuel to the fire that is the debate about BA and Manchester.


i think this should be good.
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