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We're given the reason that BA needs the regional feed to make the LHR routes viable, so by cutting down 1 flight a day means less feed equals more unviable LHR routes equals less profits? If 75% of passengers going to LHR/LGW are connecting, where will a lessening in frequency take that number?
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Lets be honst, the routes have been cut and will never come back and for the foreseeable future no airline will be taking up the slots into man as most airlines are making cut backs, ba this week, bmi next, then virgin....
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I agree with TSR2 one less grequency on a day with 9 daily flights and with competition from BMI will have little or no effect on other LHR routes.
I bet the dropped flight isnt during the busy early/late long haul departure banks?
I bet the dropped flight isnt during the busy early/late long haul departure banks?
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There was a little problem today (2/8) with a PIA flight.
The flight was already 40 min late before he was told bye MAN delivery to hold due to "they put the wrong cargo an the flight".
Flight left at 17:30 ish.
Who got told off for this????
The flight was already 40 min late before he was told bye MAN delivery to hold due to "they put the wrong cargo an the flight".
Flight left at 17:30 ish.
Who got told off for this????
To be honest who cares whether BA run any shuttles, let alone drop one? There are plenty of better options for the majority.
Bermuda
Its well documentated on here that MA can't get a lift or escaltor to work on two consecutive days. Its all about fleecing the punters for as much as possible, rather than comfort & efficiency.
Bermuda
Its well documentated on here that MA can't get a lift or escaltor to work on two consecutive days. Its all about fleecing the punters for as much as possible, rather than comfort & efficiency.
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Ludicrous in what respect? Highly seasonal routes with not enough winter traffic to justify services or only at a level that would have everyone bleating about how high the prices are. Airlines aren't charities much to everyone's amazement 
You want services through the winter but aren't prepared to pay a fare that at least covers the operating cost of flying the aircraft.
As a broad rule of thumb, you're probably looking at £8000 a sector to cover the operating cost at a winter load factor of 70%. 150 seater aircraft = 105 pax a sector = £76 a sector before taxes charges.
Now do you see why it's actually quite a good decision and why other airlines are cutting capacity (and why 2 or 3 are going to go bust)?
You want services through the winter but aren't prepared to pay a fare that at least covers the operating cost of flying the aircraft.
As a broad rule of thumb, you're probably looking at £8000 a sector to cover the operating cost at a winter load factor of 70%. 150 seater aircraft = 105 pax a sector = £76 a sector before taxes charges.
Now do you see why it's actually quite a good decision and why other airlines are cutting capacity (and why 2 or 3 are going to go bust)?
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To be honest, I would be very happy for WW to cut MAD and LIS this winter and whatever else they are cutting just to see that they are still here next summer.
Same goes for all airlines. During the winter let them cut what they want, it is during the summer months when airlines plow the passengers through the airport.
Look at MAN-PMI, doesn't look like a slow down in passengers heading there! FCA have many flights heading out there daily, mainly on the 757. Not to mention TOMs 763s etc.
Are we seeing any massive reductions in Charter traffic this winter. ie) reductions because of the high costs, not consolidation, or is it hard to tell? I suppose we can look at XL and MON to get a bit of an idea.
Same goes for all airlines. During the winter let them cut what they want, it is during the summer months when airlines plow the passengers through the airport.
Look at MAN-PMI, doesn't look like a slow down in passengers heading there! FCA have many flights heading out there daily, mainly on the 757. Not to mention TOMs 763s etc.
Are we seeing any massive reductions in Charter traffic this winter. ie) reductions because of the high costs, not consolidation, or is it hard to tell? I suppose we can look at XL and MON to get a bit of an idea.
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Two planes in airport collision
Just found this on the BBC website
Two aircraft have been involved in what has been described as a "minor wingtip collision" at Manchester Airport.
The planes, carrying a combined 287 passengers and crew, touched wings while they were taxiing out to the runway from Terminal One.
A spokesman for Manchester Airport said no-one onboard the aircraft was hurt in the collision.
The airport remained fully operational and there were no delays as a result of the incident, he added.
One of the planes involved was a Futura flight bound for Tenerife - a Boeing 737-800 - which was carrying 180 passengers.
The other, an Airbus A320, was a Lufthansa flight carrying 107 passengers to Frankfurt, Germany.
The flights were due to take off five minutes apart at 1315 BST and 1320 BST respectively.
Both aircraft are currently being checked over by the fire service as a safety precaution and will be examined by experts in due course to assess any damage.
"Passengers are currently being taken back to the terminal and are likely to complete their onward journeys later today," the spokesman added.
Two aircraft have been involved in what has been described as a "minor wingtip collision" at Manchester Airport.
The planes, carrying a combined 287 passengers and crew, touched wings while they were taxiing out to the runway from Terminal One.
A spokesman for Manchester Airport said no-one onboard the aircraft was hurt in the collision.
The airport remained fully operational and there were no delays as a result of the incident, he added.
One of the planes involved was a Futura flight bound for Tenerife - a Boeing 737-800 - which was carrying 180 passengers.
The other, an Airbus A320, was a Lufthansa flight carrying 107 passengers to Frankfurt, Germany.
The flights were due to take off five minutes apart at 1315 BST and 1320 BST respectively.
Both aircraft are currently being checked over by the fire service as a safety precaution and will be examined by experts in due course to assess any damage.
"Passengers are currently being taken back to the terminal and are likely to complete their onward journeys later today," the spokesman added.
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LS
Looks like LS will be retreating further from MAN next year.
Some ? summer 09 flights now on sale.
Unless you are intending to fly between mid July and Mid September then there are all but no flights on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Viscount
Some ? summer 09 flights now on sale.
Unless you are intending to fly between mid July and Mid September then there are all but no flights on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Viscount
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Computer Program/ application / aircraft movements
Hi, I was at Manchester today burger bar at the aviation viewing stand and i noticed a monitor displaying real time info of aircraft as they approached the airport - height, code, type air speed. Does anyone know the name of this application?
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I love the BBC report where the Lufthansa passenger being interviewed calls the Futura 737 the "Futurama aircraft."
strid,
It is an SBS system (google search). Cost quite a lot but absolutely fantastic!
strid,
It is an SBS system (google search). Cost quite a lot but absolutely fantastic!