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Returning to the topic of service standards I would suggest some of these problems come about as businesses try to retain business.
As customers we love low fares but we still expect high standards.
Airports, airlines & businesses in general are trying to keep costs down so they try to pay the minimum possible to their suppliers. These suppliers want to retain the business and in many cases appear to do so at any cost. However, something will suffer and it's often the service level.
I get the impression that suppliers are starting to realise that they can't remain in business if their balance sheet permanently bleeds red ink and perhaps the desire to survive will see realistic rates being agreed and better service levels attained.
Ultimately however what is viewed as "realistic" depends on which side of the fence you are sitting!!
As customers we love low fares but we still expect high standards.
Airports, airlines & businesses in general are trying to keep costs down so they try to pay the minimum possible to their suppliers. These suppliers want to retain the business and in many cases appear to do so at any cost. However, something will suffer and it's often the service level.
I get the impression that suppliers are starting to realise that they can't remain in business if their balance sheet permanently bleeds red ink and perhaps the desire to survive will see realistic rates being agreed and better service levels attained.
Ultimately however what is viewed as "realistic" depends on which side of the fence you are sitting!!
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A330ETOPS
Its a shame it was a sham from a unreliable
source - but then again this being a rumour
site I suppose we couldnt expect any REAL
imput!
All your posts are now null and void and who
ya'gonna blame big boy?
MM
Its a shame it was a sham from a unreliable
source - but then again this being a rumour
site I suppose we couldnt expect any REAL
imput!
All your posts are now null and void and who
ya'gonna blame big boy?
MM
I didn''t say that he never knew more than i did. I guess we all no more about different aspects of the aviation industry! Moving on now, Yeh i noticed the large number of delays aswel today. Certainly Monarch haven't had the best of days, with a number of their Airbus fleet either tech downroute or in the hangar
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Cheers Scottie for noticing that a.net post. Can't understand why they now feel the urge for codesharing though, unless other airlines are seeing some throughput to Japan via their hub? If it's Finnair creaming off the traffic, it makes me wonder why JL don't codeshare with them?
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ps - with apologies to G-STAW for any previous comments made!!
Must say SQ service is absolutely superb! Would advise anybody travelling that way that SQ is DEFINATELY the carrier to fly with. 13 hours goes so quickly on their a/c! 5*.
Don't get me wrong, I love the A330! Second favourite after the 757 but I just prefer the service on the 77Ws. EK service is very good (from my experiences) and I would have to say I look forward to the flights with them, more so than most.
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777 versus A330
Re previous posts extolling the virtues of these aircraft it surely depends on the airline seating config.Whilst I think the 777 is a nice aircraft I would not fly EK again(I have many times in the past) as they have 10 abreast (3-4-3) instead of the 9 abreast which other airlines fly.The A330 meanwhile is a 2-4-2 config and is operated by QR out of MAN and has more preferable seating to EK,s.The service on board is also far better !!
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Third Runway ??. Fourth Terminal ????....
ha ha ha.....
...pity we can't have sound on here, we could have had a burst of
"The laughing Policemen", in the background to accompany this.
ha ha ha........pity we can't have sound on here, we could have had a burst of
"The laughing Policemen", in the background to accompany this.
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MAN has got alot of work to before a fourth terminal is even considered,
MAN owns alot of land, its can expand its existing terminals (work commencing) before it even considers T4!
RANT BEGINNING
on the subject of terminals, does anyone think that T2 has got to be the worsed terminal exterior ever designed!, outdated or what! concrete galore.......built in 93', more like 73'!
and then there's the T1 short stay car park.......
RANT ENDING
G-STAW
MAN owns alot of land, its can expand its existing terminals (work commencing) before it even considers T4!
RANT BEGINNING
on the subject of terminals, does anyone think that T2 has got to be the worsed terminal exterior ever designed!, outdated or what! concrete galore.......built in 93', more like 73'!
and then there's the T1 short stay car park.......
RANT ENDING
G-STAW
Man-jfk
Here's a good rumour.
Lufthansa to start a JFK from MAN.
Apparently they are a bit p!55ed off at BA for some reason.
Lufthansa to start a JFK from MAN.
Apparently they are a bit p!55ed off at BA for some reason.
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I am a die hard patriot but if LH were to set up base at MAN on a long haul basis and shove it up BA's a*se then please...be my guest.
Can't see it happening any time soon though.
Can't see it happening any time soon though.
any source?
It was a bit sketchy.......
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I personally think that is the key to a regional UK to major hub which is where Flyglobespan failed on the LPL-JFK route, there wasnt enough demand for just NYC from the Mersey.
Look at CO and EK for example. They are providing flights into major hubs but I would love to know the figure for the number of passengers who actually make this their final destination as I can probably assume not many! CO offers services from smaller airports such as BHX, BFS, BRS, EDI, GLA etc. where there may not be enough demand for just EWR. They do however have connections to various destinations across North and South America from the airport which makes the route viable! Same with EK and DXB - do you really think MAN has that high a demand for DXB - over 900 seats per day?!
By LH signing a contract with Jetblue it gives them the more destinations across the States which will also increase demand for their own flights to reach these destinations! I know it is very simple and has been happening for many years but I still believe it is the best way to fill aircraft and with the current economic climate, will be for some time to come!
Look at CO and EK for example. They are providing flights into major hubs but I would love to know the figure for the number of passengers who actually make this their final destination as I can probably assume not many! CO offers services from smaller airports such as BHX, BFS, BRS, EDI, GLA etc. where there may not be enough demand for just EWR. They do however have connections to various destinations across North and South America from the airport which makes the route viable! Same with EK and DXB - do you really think MAN has that high a demand for DXB - over 900 seats per day?!
By LH signing a contract with Jetblue it gives them the more destinations across the States which will also increase demand for their own flights to reach these destinations! I know it is very simple and has been happening for many years but I still believe it is the best way to fill aircraft and with the current economic climate, will be for some time to come!