MANCHESTER - 5

[roverman]

Rumours and Truth

G-STAW, I think you need to be more wary of your sources. Firstly, MAN is not yet declared as available to take the A380 even as a diversion alternate, work continues to that end and is expected to be completed very soon. There have been no discussions with SQ about any planned visit by the A380, only as a diversion in the event of a problem at LHR. Probably someone getting carried away with excitement about that.

MAN did not 'nearly lose its licence last year due to the state of the taxiways'. Taxiway condition was a major concern three years ago but unless you have been living on the moon since then you'll will have noticed that a huge amount of taxiway rebuilding and improvement has been taking place, and this will continue. The CAA are very satisfied with the programme and the way in which the work is being managed.

[G-STAW]

Hello Roverman,

A380;I was told different, maybe these people are talking utter rubbish? personally i wouldnt of though they'd make this kind of stuff up.....

with regards to the CAA, i was shown a copy of a document a few weeks ago regarding this very thing, maybe that was made up aswell......

Mind boggling.....

G-STAW

[red5111]

AA Flights.

The news that AA are reducing to five a week! Where can I confirm this.
This is bad news.

[JDNMANUK]

It's already in Amadeus I'm afraid - no ops Tue/Thu

[roverman]

Rumours and Truth 2

G-STAW, I would be interested to see the document that was shown to you. CAA Audit reports are confidential and held only by the CAA and the Aerodrome Licensee, so I would be surprised if you saw anything official. The CAA only withdraws an aerodrome licence in very grave circumstances where there has been a systematic failure of safety management across a range of issues, such as happened at LDY a while back. The condition of Taxiway Delta at MAN was the subject of a CAA audit report in 2005 which (in part) lead to the acceleration of a taxiway repair programme. There was never any question of the aerodrome licence being withdrawn, that would be a ridiculous course of action when a sub-standard taxiway can simply be closed to alleviate any safety concerns.

[roy2711]

well thats nine trans atl flts a week from end of oct that maplc have lost
hopefully no more

[G-STAW]

Roverman,

i think someone may of told me wrong?cant mention who he was put he said the airport license was "nearly" taken off MAN, someones eggagerating...

regarding the document it was an AIP style document which shown the repaving schedule, which the airport had to carry out within 12 months, i believe this was available on the net (ill try and find it).

they're still working on repaving, the west side of alpha is still being repaved, they finished work on November a few weeks ago.

G-STAW

[MUFC_fan]

Another reason why MAN need a long haul carrier commited to the region.

BA cancel and now AA reduce frequency. BA don't want MAN and when BA/AA get married within the next 12 months I would be very surprised if the shiny tin cans will be flying to ORD by the time the honeymoon is over.

Come on BD - get your arse into gear!

[G-STAW]

I completely agree, now Lufthansa has said its going to up its stake in BD, hopefully they'll get their act together and build its portfolio at MAN,

i remember a couple of months ago (in airliner world) LH said it was thinking of launching more routes from MAN, to USA? due to the openskies agreement...

time will tell......

[MUFC_fan]

For LH I would say ZRH is above MAN but I wouldn't count it out. I wouldn't count anything out.

The problem is, if LH were to launch MAN-US flights which at the moment is VERY unlikely, BA wouldn't respond by expanding at MAN, they would probably go for DUS or MUC!

BD or VS are the airport's best options at the moment with maybe a couple of routes from Z4.

[RAPC]

BD can't get their arse into gear. The small matter of no long haul planes knocking about or on the horizon puts paid to that, much is the pity.

[DeltaIndiaSierraPapa]

BD can't get their arse into gear. The small matter of no long haul planes knocking about or on the horizon puts paid to that, much is the pity.

For how many years has BD been giving that lame excuse. Surely they could whack together 3 or 4 A330's or 767's... How many woul dthey need to pick up more lonhaul flights out of MAN? Not like they would instantly need 20 or something. Hell they have been managing their current portfolio ex MAN with 3 very hard worked A330's.... I just dont think they really want to. I reckon that LH has done a deal with Turner to keep the status quo until such time as the old man decides he has had enough of the airline business. Keeps the price down and Turner would then be rewarded handsomely by his new masters at LH.

[Scottie Dog]

G-STAW versus Roverman

From a point of perceived reliability I think that I would prefer to trust the information from Roverman over that being put out second-hand by G-STAW.

Nothing personal but I have a strong feeling that I know who Roverman is, and his posts have always been completely accurate and factual.

Regards

Scottie Dog

[G-STAW]

From a point of perceived reliability I think that I would prefer to trust the information from Roverman over that being put out second-hand by G-STAW.

Nothing personal but I have a strong feeling that I know who Roverman is, and his posts have always been completely accurate and factual.

Regards

Scottie Dog

Im only stating what people in the know are telling me, whether its fact or fiction,

anyway....

anyone know why AA has cancelled their winter ORD schedule?

is it pure a poor load decision?or something else?

G-STAW

[Suzeman]

From a point of perceived reliability I think that I would prefer to trust the information from Roverman over that being put out second-hand by G-STAW.

Well said Scottie Beat me to it.

Suzeman

[Adola69]

Dear Mr Man.

Hello mm - Ive taken the Micky out of you in the title of this reply.

Lesson 1. Grammar

It reads as though you are a complete idiot is that
how you intended it?

There should be a full-stop after idiot, followed by a capital I in Is.

Lesson 2
Never assume that I'm a Complete idiot, I'm still a growing lad.
I hope to eventually attain your level in that department but it'll take a lot of practice over quite a few years, by which time you'll have gone on to even higher levels of idiocy.

Lesson 3
Try to learn that not all postings are literary works of art and some try to inject a little humour at times into a point they are making.

Hope you get better soon.

[Ex Cargo Clown]

I've heard from a very, very good source, that AA cut the ORD service on BA's command.....

It's an absolute travesty.

[lexoncd]

I've heard from a very, very good source, that AA cut the ORD service on BA's command.....

Given the recent anti trust investigations the last thing AA or BA would do is discuss their operations at Manchester. It may be a simple case of commercial considerations.

[Skipness One Echo]

This is an established long running and succesful route, mainly because it was run daily for years. American are retrenching as they are losing cash, perhaps they feel that the yields up against so many other US carriers at Manchester are not worth the effort any more. I agree that it does appear a first step towards withdrawal alas....

[Bagso]

Re AA....the hand of BA has a long reach and sadly Muirhead and his cronies have no will to take them on......as I said previosly they should have caused a stink and thrown them out as soon as the decision to ditch JFK was made.......

They fixed QF CX and IB and now they are sorting out AA.

PS well said Adola...clearly our learned friend does not do irony.........