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(*whisper*) Good answer, just don't tell SQ, EK, QR, EY, US, AA, DL, CO and all the other business class carriers about it!
Nice wind up Bermuda & Skippy - but that one's been done to death before.
Anyone who uses EK, SIA & LH will know J class is often overbooked.
It has nothing to do with "demand" but only to do with channelling all available traffic via LHR to make up their numbers down there as they can't provide the yield they need for using that high cost airport.
My experience shows many BA long haul flights, with less than 150 pax, sometime less than 100 & J class almost empty. The regions are turning their backs on LHR & using other euro hubs.
I don't think anywhere is going to grow these next couple of years, in that respect MAN is no different to LHR. That goes for the lo co sector too, whether it be MAN or STN / LGW
Anyone who uses EK, SIA & LH will know J class is often overbooked.
It has nothing to do with "demand" but only to do with channelling all available traffic via LHR to make up their numbers down there as they can't provide the yield they need for using that high cost airport.
My experience shows many BA long haul flights, with less than 150 pax, sometime less than 100 & J class almost empty. The regions are turning their backs on LHR & using other euro hubs.
I don't think anywhere is going to grow these next couple of years, in that respect MAN is no different to LHR. That goes for the lo co sector too, whether it be MAN or STN / LGW
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the writing is on the wall...manchester as a major FR base...lo cost operation.just look at terminal 3,BA have almost gone,flybe,bmibaby,the terminal is just like blackpool pleasure beach.ryanair expanding on a monthly basis....will resemble a bigger version of john lennon airport before long.
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FR are looking commited. Not exactly the easiest route to start - aginst LH/BD!
It's in the online check-in system already but no frequency. I'm guessing it will be at least daily?
It's in the online check-in system already but no frequency. I'm guessing it will be at least daily?
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manchester as a major FR base...lo cost operation.just look at terminal 3,BA have almost gone,
FR are looking commited. Not exactly the easiest route to start - aginst LH/BD!
Both Flybee and DLH fly to FRA/Frankfurt am Main. British Midland don't.
I only hope that it isn't a "Late night addon" unlike their [FR] new "services"
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FR to Hahn
now bookable from 26 October, 4 per week (Mon,Wed,Fri,Sun) in the evening except Wed which is an afternoon departure.
obviously not going for the business market.
obviously not going for the business market.
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Well the new FR routes look like they are doing well. Will hopefully find out tomorrow how well they have officially done when the 1st set of Apr results are released by the CAA.
Just looking at flight prices for Scotland/N. Ireland/EIRE arriving today and tomorrow and departing Thursday - not very cheap! Most flights are booked up. On Thursday MAN-GLA only has 5 seats left on the entire days operation inc. BE/BD!
Could this be a record month for MAN? They not only have the UEFA cup final this week but the wave of 747s arriving next week for the Mancunian exodus to paint the Red Square redder than red.
Just looking at flight prices for Scotland/N. Ireland/EIRE arriving today and tomorrow and departing Thursday - not very cheap! Most flights are booked up. On Thursday MAN-GLA only has 5 seats left on the entire days operation inc. BE/BD!
Could this be a record month for MAN? They not only have the UEFA cup final this week but the wave of 747s arriving next week for the Mancunian exodus to paint the Red Square redder than red.
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FR @ Manchester
It seems that Ryanair are treating Manchester with a little
caution - as opposed to what has been their usual frenzied announcements.
Perhaps Birmingham was the last to receive the full Ryanair
treatment.
Maybe the days of this airline announcing 10 or 20 routes
from a new base have gone for good.
Economic reality hitting home.
MM
It seems that Ryanair are treating Manchester with a little
caution - as opposed to what has been their usual frenzied announcements.
Perhaps Birmingham was the last to receive the full Ryanair
treatment.
Maybe the days of this airline announcing 10 or 20 routes
from a new base have gone for good.
Economic reality hitting home.
MM
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Well I think that is the Plan to have all the low costs into T3, good move too in my opinion. Move all the higher cost airlines into T1 and T2 to improve the passenger food/shopping experience, which T3 is seriously lacking.
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Ryanair : Winter 2008
With the news of the new route to Hahn Bremen is the only other route available in the booking system so far for the Winter. Looks like a phased release of routes.
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Could this be a record month for MAN? They not only have the UEFA cup final this week but the wave of 747s arriving next week for the Mancunian exodus to paint the Red Square redder than red
.The Utd invasion of MOW next week will produce more pax but combined I don't think that it will come near to the May 2003 invasion for the Champions League Final. And all this is on an underlying lower base of traffic I think.
But it would be nice to be proved wrong
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Uefa Final
Anyone have a final list of what is actually gonna turn up tomorrow, Seems the viewing park maybe full but a damp squib in terms of russian movements. Any other expected movements other than the extra russian flights to look out for???
Thanks in advance
Barry
Thanks in advance
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Football
There is already a thread on this subject in Spectator's Balcony.
For lists try www.ringwayreports.co.uk
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For lists try www.ringwayreports.co.uk
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when will manchester realise that the only growth will be locost...ie ryanair/jet2 and in some cases flybe.just a bucket and spade gateway...orlando/tenerife and malaga..with the odd dubai in between.gill thomson would loose sleep over the current state of affairs.was in dubai last week,full of football shirts,tattoos and vulgar people...like tenerife but 3 hour further,enough said !
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Bermuda you have already been round all three sides of your triangle this last posting is just repeat of your last post
There are many business people who either live in Manchester or need to come to Manchester so there will always be a demand for business flights
I used to work in business travel and most people did not want to fly on Ryanair etc because they don`t offer what business people require
the exception is Easyjet because their schedules on city routes tend to lend themselves to business pax ( hopefully soon Manchester to fill the gaps left by Bacon/Flybe etc )
Ian
There are many business people who either live in Manchester or need to come to Manchester so there will always be a demand for business flights
I used to work in business travel and most people did not want to fly on Ryanair etc because they don`t offer what business people require
the exception is Easyjet because their schedules on city routes tend to lend themselves to business pax ( hopefully soon Manchester to fill the gaps left by Bacon/Flybe etc )
Ian
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