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Cork's best hope is to try and entice another Middle East Carrier to launch a route. If Emirates are talking of increasing frequency from Dublin and Ethiad are already on 11 per week from there, there's probably a market for 3-4 per week from Cork. However the above carriers won't want to dilute their Dublin traffic.
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Is the wizz air spokesperson not the former Ryanair mouthpiece? He's now complaining about Ryanair's hidden charges. I remember reading some of his press pieces in the past. Now he's contradicting all the propaganda he used to preach when he was working for his former employer. I had a laugh at it.
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Regarding Middle-Eastern routes, whatever about commercial demands it would seem to just be too far for the combination of Cork's runway and current aircraft types. The distance is further than Chicago, never mind New York. While there are a handful of aircraft that could serve US East Coast, I can't think of any that could fly 90-120 minutes further.
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The A310 took off from Cork Mark although it was very marginal. On another occasion an Aeroflot A310 was westbound and Shannon and Dublin's weather was marginal. The plan B was to land in Cork and transfer the new crew by road from Shannon.. However in this case the A310 would have refuelled in Keflavik as Cork's runway was deemed too short for a full transatlantic traffic. In any event landed in Shannon.
Of course anothr 1,000 ft would resolve all of these issues.
Of course anothr 1,000 ft would resolve all of these issues.
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>>Of course anothr 1,000 ft would resolve all of these issues.<<
Where?? on stilts?? If you were to enlarge 1k ft is bugger all. Unfortunately the site was chosen for political reasons. OTOH, where the hell would you find enough flat land for an airport near ORK??
Where?? on stilts?? If you were to enlarge 1k ft is bugger all. Unfortunately the site was chosen for political reasons. OTOH, where the hell would you find enough flat land for an airport near ORK??
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The main runway can be extended southwards for up to 750 feet without any great difficulty. A northwards extension would be a lot more challenging, but you could still find a couple of hundred feet if more than the 750 was deemed necessary.
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Extending runway length does not always accomodate like for like comparisons with other airports. The runway lenght or TORA does not allow for overuns into clearways or stopways, so without getting into the maths 'buliding up' an extension at the end of the runway at Cork may not be the simple answer when it comes to aircraft take off or and accelerate stop distance performance.
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The official line is that an 800ft extension will cater for Cork's needs far into the future though there is absolutely no indication that the DAA are going to extend 17/35 anytime soon. T'would take a definite commitment to start a transatlantic or Middle East service before any moves would be made in that regard.
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It's possible by extending it at both ends to get to around around 8,200 ft. However the intention is to go north by about 800 ft. Experts tell them that is sufficient toncater for anything that Cork is likely to have to deal with including East Coast transatlantic flights. The extra 500 ft to the South would not involve any major engineering feat but is only a very long term prospect.
The 1980's runway extension had a strong business case supporting it. Unfortunately this is not now the case
The 1980's runway extension had a strong business case supporting it. Unfortunately this is not now the case
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Cork passenger traffic
August showed a marginal decline in figures at Cork of less than 3%. To date 2012 has shown a decline of just over 1%. At least the double digit decreases of 2009 and 2010 have stopped. Looks as if it'll be broadly in line with 2011.
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Cork to Abu Dhabi
Cork Airports Aviation Business Development team which I presume is a euphimism for the airports' marketing Department are heading to Abu Dhabi to try and secure new airlines and routes for 2013/4 at the forthcoming ROUTES conference.
The airport has been represented at many of these routes conferences for the last decade. However if recent years are anything to go by the chances of securing new airlines in 2013/4 are slim and none.
Cork is one of the home grounds of Aerlingus and Ryanair and it'd be a brave airline or one with deep pockets that'd take them on.
Cork has secured some new routes in recent years such as Milan, Pisa and Brussells but these hardly came from Routes conferences but were more likely commercial decisions by Aerlingus and Ryanair. The only overseas carriers operating into Cork are Wizzair who are facing a major onslaught from Ryanair this winter and Jet 2 who operate a twice weekly service to Newcastle.
Best of luck in the Middle East lads but I won't be holding my breath!
The airport has been represented at many of these routes conferences for the last decade. However if recent years are anything to go by the chances of securing new airlines in 2013/4 are slim and none.
Cork is one of the home grounds of Aerlingus and Ryanair and it'd be a brave airline or one with deep pockets that'd take them on.
Cork has secured some new routes in recent years such as Milan, Pisa and Brussells but these hardly came from Routes conferences but were more likely commercial decisions by Aerlingus and Ryanair. The only overseas carriers operating into Cork are Wizzair who are facing a major onslaught from Ryanair this winter and Jet 2 who operate a twice weekly service to Newcastle.
Best of luck in the Middle East lads but I won't be holding my breath!
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