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Sorry PoP, It has to be done. How can 1 small charter cause so much animosity. Why does a small minority want to put 30 pilots and 150 cabin crew on the dole. It does not matter for the flight deck as there are lots of jobs out there for qualified people, but what about everyone else. Cabin Crew, Ops, Engineering, etc. Is it too much to ask that a hardworking coalface in any company be left alone to prove themselves. 95% of the people in this industry do it cos they luv the flying. certainly not the wages. So what is wrong in supporting each other. And I am sorry, bu if you dont agree you need to get the F#ck out of flying and follow another path, like nose picking or gonad scratching.
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Well it certainly took a while for another Flyjet post to be started, thought it would of happened a bit sooner.
All of us in flyjet, I fear, are part of a sinking ship! The new management are no better than the old and all they think is silverjet silverjet silverjet. No interest is shown in flyjet and they haven't even given it a chance to prove itself in the charter market. Come october next year, I fear flyjet will be gone!!
Afterall both 757's will have gone by then!
All of us in flyjet, I fear, are part of a sinking ship! The new management are no better than the old and all they think is silverjet silverjet silverjet. No interest is shown in flyjet and they haven't even given it a chance to prove itself in the charter market. Come october next year, I fear flyjet will be gone!!
Afterall both 757's will have gone by then!
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There seems to be a lot of negative talk regarding Flyjet, but what facts do those of you inside the company know. Has anything being said. If nothing has been said then how do you know that they are not going to invest in the fleet, get more aircraft, newer aircraft etc. I remember reading something that said that they have a chance to prove themselves and make money, is that not a fair chance to prove yourselves.
The SJ takeover has to be positive otherwise it appears Flyjet would not exist at this moment in time.
The only thing I would add is that if nothing has being said one way or another, then staff become uncertain, rumours become common place, a lot of negative talk occurs and staff can lose interest, thats what we are seeing at the moment. Therefore surely its in SJs interest to tell the staff its plans for this airline. Goodluck Flyjet.
The SJ takeover has to be positive otherwise it appears Flyjet would not exist at this moment in time.
The only thing I would add is that if nothing has being said one way or another, then staff become uncertain, rumours become common place, a lot of negative talk occurs and staff can lose interest, thats what we are seeing at the moment. Therefore surely its in SJs interest to tell the staff its plans for this airline. Goodluck Flyjet.
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Winter 2007/8
looking at the xl website flights are shown as XLA TBA from NCL.
nowhere does it have FJE?
looking at the xl website flights are shown as XLA TBA from NCL.
nowhere does it have FJE?
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I argee with lgwechobravo......all of us at LGW feel like this is the last few months of the base,the company havent told us anything about whats happening to LGW....but it doesnt look good as there isnt a flying programme and no aircraft from april....everyone is fed up and worried about their jobs!....most people are looking for other jobs...so good luck to everyone its been a pleasure to work with you all.
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Not blowing flyjets trumpet but we do have some of the best crews I have ever worked with at Flyjet, at LGW, NCL and MAN. Good luck to all, stinks what management are doing and I would have been proud to help create a decent niche charter airline at Flyjet - given the chance! There is potential at LGW, with MAN and NCL keeping the company going presently, shame that writing is on the wall after the summer. And NCL only been operational for a year! Waste of investment really???
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Do you feel that the management are deliberately keeping you in the dark, in order to create this unrest and hope that most people will leave on their own before they have to pay people off (if the company will cease)?
If so thats not a nice way of rewarding people!
...and by all means that that trumpet as loud as you can!
If so thats not a nice way of rewarding people!
...and by all means that that trumpet as loud as you can!
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Shame if Flyjet do cease operations, they have made quite a concious effort up in NCL, with average OTP, although they still did come last in the league tables overall, however they have very rarely suffered from major delays at NCL. Pax reactions seem positive and the airline has provided extra jobs in the region. They make a nice change to the based charter units, usually NCL gets third rate airlines such as Scandic, Hola, Islandsflug etc
Good luck all at flyjet, hope everything works out!
Good luck all at flyjet, hope everything works out!
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They seem to be doing prity well for themselves atm, im sure there making lots of cash doing flights out of cph on EA, and still doing NCL flights on EB.
Manchester has a summer program starting in June, which is a busy program.
Im guessing but i would have thought that NCL wil be the other base rather than LGW. One reason for this could be its alot cheper f0r slots out of NCL than it is out of LGW.
In November we shall see if the a/c get sold on or there lease is renewed, tbh I think they will get rid, but they might replace these a/c with 737-8/9 ER's, although this is just me hoping they do get rid of EA/EB, us outside Flyjet/Silverjet will have to wait and see.
Here's GL for 07 for FlyJet!
Manchester has a summer program starting in June, which is a busy program.
Im guessing but i would have thought that NCL wil be the other base rather than LGW. One reason for this could be its alot cheper f0r slots out of NCL than it is out of LGW.
In November we shall see if the a/c get sold on or there lease is renewed, tbh I think they will get rid, but they might replace these a/c with 737-8/9 ER's, although this is just me hoping they do get rid of EA/EB, us outside Flyjet/Silverjet will have to wait and see.
Here's GL for 07 for FlyJet!
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Slots at NCL may well be cheaper, but is it not the charterer that pays for the operation? Not really sure how the arrangement between XL aviation and Flyjet is organised. Staff were under impression it was for 3 years, not 18 months when 757's EA and EB will be returned!!!!
As much as we all want FJE to suceed and last, new a/c is highly unlikely!
As much as we all want FJE to suceed and last, new a/c is highly unlikely!
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New a/c might not be as far as you might think, with Silverjet money behind them, they may let the lease run out on the 75's but this maybe because there are planning to get some 'newer' a/c. This from me is heresay, I wouldnt mind someone from flyjet, (maybe fje1
) to hopefuly ask the question to someone and then hopefully shead some light. As this thread as usual is all abit down atm.
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well if they've told there staff EA and EB will return, thye must hav said whats going to be happening to fje in the future or else why wud anyone with the right mind stay with the company?
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NCL1 - It would be nice if we WERE told something, however communication seems to be seriously lacking at the moment.
The last official communication we had was in November, to inform us that the offices were relocating to Luton. Since then nothing, and, since we can no longer drop into LGW for a chat, cynics might say that this was quite an adroit move.
There has been a web site set up specifically for the purpose of keeping us informed, I would suggest to our new lords and masters (who confess to reading this site), that it is fast becoming a question of 'use it or lose it' - ie. 'use' the channels available to communicate with us, or 'lose' a significant number of pilots.
The last official communication we had was in November, to inform us that the offices were relocating to Luton. Since then nothing, and, since we can no longer drop into LGW for a chat, cynics might say that this was quite an adroit move.
There has been a web site set up specifically for the purpose of keeping us informed, I would suggest to our new lords and masters (who confess to reading this site), that it is fast becoming a question of 'use it or lose it' - ie. 'use' the channels available to communicate with us, or 'lose' a significant number of pilots.
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EA & EB upto now may return early and newer aircrafts will join a manchester hub of upto 4 757's. charter in the summer ski winters.
nothing official as of yet. will update when info becomes fiction.
Winter 2006/7 has seen long haul trips go well with EA now reconfigured and more legroom on the a/c and minimal a/c problems.
EB has been working with the charter out of newcastle again with minimal problems.
not much info at this stage...
ex EC has preformed its first flight today to New York with passengers...
nothing official as of yet. will update when info becomes fiction.
Winter 2006/7 has seen long haul trips go well with EA now reconfigured and more legroom on the a/c and minimal a/c problems.
EB has been working with the charter out of newcastle again with minimal problems.
not much info at this stage...
ex EC has preformed its first flight today to New York with passengers...
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You're not looking at those 2 ex-Atlas 757s that Jet2 seemed to be having then had a change of heart at the last minute are you? Anyone know what caused the change of mind there?
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so fje1 what your post has basically stated is that the company are going to dump both NCL and LGW, with minimal notice to loyal serving and hard working staff - NICE, thanks very much!
Who's to say 4 757 aircraft at MAN would be profitable. Surely enough charter units there as it is during winter, why not spread new aircraft (yet to be confirmed or seen) among 2 different bases, where work is available? i.e NCL and MAN. Lets be honest NCL has kept the flyjet part up and running for most of the year, along with summer programme in MAN!!!
Think most LGW folk have resigned themselves to the fact that the end is nigh - not of course that it is official!
Good luck Flyjet - you could be great, wherever the aircraft end up.
Who's to say 4 757 aircraft at MAN would be profitable. Surely enough charter units there as it is during winter, why not spread new aircraft (yet to be confirmed or seen) among 2 different bases, where work is available? i.e NCL and MAN. Lets be honest NCL has kept the flyjet part up and running for most of the year, along with summer programme in MAN!!!
Think most LGW folk have resigned themselves to the fact that the end is nigh - not of course that it is official!
Good luck Flyjet - you could be great, wherever the aircraft end up.
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A hub doesn't mean the a/c will only fly out of there, im guessing that is where they will base there a/c as Manchester has a good boeing maintaince hangar and cheapish parking fee's.
Ive also heard that EA and EB might be getting turned into DHL a/c at the end of the lease.So if Flyjet want 4, they will need another 2 on top of the ex-Atlas ones.
I dont think they will drop NCL they have done very well out of there over this winter, never mind last summer.
LGW seems to be abit lost on Flyjet.
The Mancehster summer program is supposed to start in June, but thats a bit of hear say to
Ive also heard that EA and EB might be getting turned into DHL a/c at the end of the lease.So if Flyjet want 4, they will need another 2 on top of the ex-Atlas ones.
I dont think they will drop NCL they have done very well out of there over this winter, never mind last summer.
LGW seems to be abit lost on Flyjet.
The Mancehster summer program is supposed to start in June, but thats a bit of hear say to