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Old 8th Apr 2007, 19:26
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EA & EB will leave the fleet.

EB is in good condition now as money is being spent on the aircraft.
When EA returns at the end of April this to will get the once over.

Up to now work is the for summer 2007 and thereafter has not yet been released.
Aircrafts have been looked at but no outcome so far.

A meeting with management and crews will be organised shortly.
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We have heard all this rubbish before that the crew will be kept informed and that meetings will be arranged etc, etc, etc and it has came to nothing at all.

The majority of the LGW crew have got jobs starting in May so do you really think that there will be anyone there to meet with? Now how convienient was that?????

SilverJet have treated the LGW crew so badly, we are wondering if they have planned it like this or are they just so incompetent? All they can see is Silver Jet, Silver Jet, Silver Jet and are just so up themselves.

I wonder do their investers know the mess they are making when it comes to Flyjet and how badly they have treated the crew?

The majority of the LGW crew can't wait to be gone and leave this sorry mess behind. It is such a shame because despite it's faults it was a fantastic company to work for once upon a time

One thing that concerns me is the fact that it appears Silver Jet managers think that they are so good and they are in the right.

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Does anybody really think that FJE will continue operations after october? The writing really does seem to be on the wall for them. No contract for MAN a/c next winter, the charter in NCL stopping all flights and the management were trying to get out of the long haul CPH programme.

To me, theres no point in finding replacement a/c if there is no work to operate.

FJE1 seems to be kidding themselves....
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1/Firstly I do think there will be flying for Flyjet - perhaps even with a larger fleet in due course.
2/ THE OTHERONE. Your English grammar is very poor - nay lamentable- in recent posts. It is tiring to read and constitutes a barely punctuated rambling rant that has very poor grammar.
Please try to come up for air.
It also seriously dents and ruins the credibility of anything you would like to be taken seriously.
It is axiomatic that you will enhance your 'street cred' with an accurate lexicon and correct sentence construction.
It really is is no good rambling along on one breath of some sort of enraged fit of peek.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
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Quote: Your English grammer is very poor

Now I am having a bit of a dull day here but tell me that you are taking the wee-wee in YOUR quote about grammar (amongst other boo-boos)?

If so I will go and stick my head back in the sand
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 08:23
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It is - Sentence.

Glass houses and stones spring to mind.
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Post Thanks & Unreserved Apology for typos

Thanks Abbeville & Brian

Thanks for your corrections & please accept my apologies for the typos.

I was too tired to spell check after 1 1/2 weeks down route on an out of kilter circadian rhythm. Normally I would spell check.

My mistake was to post after commanding a jet over several thousand miles and therefore feeling tired.

However I am sure most readers will understand my point.

The sort of things I am getting at - usually found in the most ranting posts - are a seeming inability at any sort of grammar or sentence construction.

For example:
How many times do ranting types say?
aircrafts
crafts
thier.
A poor side of PPrune occurs when a complete post appears in one long ramble with no full stops.

Take this quote from earlier in the post as an example:

errr right HO ,
leases can be easily got out of, i have inside knowledge of these leases being cancelled, thank you. Apperently silverjet have paid an early cancelation fee but that was cheaper than paying for rooms they dont need and they are activlatly seeking ways out of the summer work as the flyjet operation is a drain on their limited resources for their own business expansion. msg me if you need to know more as its not fair to the good crew who work there.
The odd typo is not so bad.

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We have heard all this rubbish before that the crew will be kept informed and that meetings will be arranged etc, etc, etc and it has came to nothing at all.
The majority of the LGW crew have got jobs starting in May so do you really think that there will be anyone there to meet with? Now how convienient was that?????


Meetings will be in place for NCL & MAN
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FJE1 looks like you to have turned your back on LGW!

WHAT IS HAPPENING AT LGW??????????

We have not had a word of thanks or any support during the winter it has not been easy doing the long haul there have been some very difficult situations and on top of everything we have all been worrying about our jobs. There has been no managment input or structure, I think the CAA would be very unhappy with what has been happening!

It makes us sick that recruitment has taken place for NCL and MAN and we are about to be pushed out.

It makes us sick that Silverjet have been given a wage increase but FJE have not.

It appears that you have been bought by SilverJet with their motto
"Use them, abuse them them, then S### on them" after all we are disposable and do not deserve to be treated like adults
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The problem is that we all know what they say and do are two very different things. Pity LGW was not mentioned!
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I think all those staff left at Flyjet are coming to face the fact that the end is near. No matter if the management do set up meetings at FJE's 2 existing bases, many staff see it as too late and do not trust their superiors.

I have said it before and will say it again, the Silverjet team could have something good with a little but of effort and investment. Independant charter companies seem to be in demand these days - look at AEU who seem to do very well. Although with the mergers of TCX/MYT and FCA/TOM will there be scope for more UK charter companies?

Good Luck - hope all works out, would love to see FJE continue and another season for the crew in Thailand!!!!!!
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QUOTE HAPPYCHAP
FJE1 looks like you to have turned your back on LGW!

WHAT IS HAPPENING AT LGW??????????

We have not had a word of thanks or any support during the winter it has not been easy doing the long haul there have been some very difficult situations and on top of everything we have all been worrying about our jobs. There has been no managment input or structure, I think the CAA would be very unhappy with what has been happening!

It makes us sick that recruitment has taken place for NCL and MAN and we are about to be pushed out.

It makes us sick that Silverjet have been given a wage increase but FJE have not.

It appears that you have been bought by SilverJet with their motto
"Use them, abuse them them, then S### on them" after all we are disposable and do not deserve to be treated like adults............

- As you know LGW will be closing from April 30th 2007 and all crew have had letters regarding this and been able to contact Flyjet about this.

I will say thank you for support over the winter with doing your job your paid to do.

Recruitment has happened in MAN & NCL but you where given the option to move bases or interview for Silverjet.

Yes Silverjet have given their crews a pay increase and I am looking into that regarding the Flyjet side. But as Silverjet do hold separate contracts then this may be allowed.

I have NOT been bought by the Silverjet motto they pay my wages and if Flyjet was to go I would probably have no job also.
It is a shame LGW has gone but my job is to now focus on NCL & MAN.

I come on hear with information I have and try to help people such as yourself.

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Old 15th Apr 2007, 17:46
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FJE1, yes, LGW crew were offered transfers to MAN & NCL - hundreds of miles away from where they live, many of the LGW crew own houses,have partners and families in the south to consider so MAN or NCL are not an option.

Many of the crew have gone for interviews at silverjet but it is obvious they do not want the majority of flyjet crew as hardly anyone has actually got a job there. Silverjet are missing out on some fantastic crew.

An email was sent with questions and answers from the one meeting held at LGW discusssing everything.this is the last that was heard.

MAN & NCL will no doubt be gone in a few months and I suggest all the crew get a job somewhere where you will be treated with respect before you end up in the same position as LGW crew and flight crew all get shafted to silverjet on a permanent basis.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 15:16
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If Flyjet did not become Silverjet when it did then Flyjet would not be here now and would have been bankrupt last year.

Yes its sad LGW has gone and MAN & NCL where an option or interviews with Silverjet.

Crews DID have interviews and crew HAVE moved bases.

Crews where not told they have to move basis therefore those who did not want to move have been made redundant.

These things happen and will continue to happen. Its not anyones fault its one of them things.

If Manchester or Newcastle went first they would be in the same situation as Gatwick. It just happened these 2 bases had contracted work to complete. Its all business and money to airlines and the bases that will bring the money in are obviously going to be kept open.
If Flyjet did have more aircraft then who knows what would have happened. But they dont the facts are obvious.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 16:58
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Do the other flyjet bases have contracted work past the winter of this year? are flyjet currently looking for new aircraft to replace the ones leaving in october? - just curious?,I am cabin crew for Thomas Cook, but flew with flyjet from newcastle to tenerife a few weeks ago, was a fantastic flight, ok the aircraft isn't the most modern, but gets you from A to B, crew were great, excellent customer service, happy etc. Really would be a shame to see the end of what could potentially be a basis of a good strong little charter company. Fingers crossed flyjet stick around! shame alot of people speak negatively of them, couldn't fault them myself. Keep us updated!! Good Luck!
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 20:13
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As far as crews were aware the following contracts were in place for Flyjet,

NCL - 3 year contract with XL Aviation. Started for Summer 2006, to continue through to end of Winter 08/09 (3 years). However with XL aviation no longer offering winter flights next winter from NCL then contract would appeat to no longer exist. Is NCL therefore the next to go at the end of this summer, IMHO I think it probably will??? Shame, NCL crew were some of the most customer service minded, enthusiatic people I have ever flown with - certainly customer reviews praise them.

MAN - Like NCL XL aviation contract. So summer work is available and then for winter a/c goes to CPH for longhaul programme, again a 3 year contract. The longhaul appeared to be a very heavy manpower user and exspensive so will the company try and bin it??

Hopefully the Silverjet board will continue the flyjet brand on and make it something successful and something to be proud of.

All depends on wether new a/c can be sourced at such good deals as EA and EB were signed on. Very unlikely as both a/c were acquired during the industry slump, where lease rates were alot cheaper than now.

I would of loved to stay at FJE, but t'was not to be!!!!
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Ah well, thats a shame if true. we need more airlines at NCL, there is definately the potential and demand for routes! only so many palma and alicante flights we can offer !! Some airlines/ tour operators don't release there flights until 6 months beofre though, lots can change between now and october, be optimistic any flyjeters out there! like i said i thought the service and crew were excellent on my flight, and you would be a credit to any other airline shoudl flyjet be no more, put others to shame im sure!!
Is there not then the possibility flyjet will operate winter at man and the ncl a/c (if replaced) do the longhaul?
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 09:40
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FlyJet Thailand

Are FlyJet still flying to Thailand and fo which charter company?
Are they based in Thailand or England
How is the situation in the company, no risk for canceled operations

Please update the situation anyone
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Old 20th Apr 2007, 14:54
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Long haul program finishes next week.

Busy summer programs

Probably no long haul this winter not to sure as of yet.

another couple of months of no infomation will probably be the key then more info realesed july/august.
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Old 19th Jul 2007, 09:45
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Flyjet

Flyjet seem to have hit the headlines up here in NCL a couple of times earlier in the summer, but most recently seem to be running a very smooth and punctual operation.

With the takeover by Silverjet (was this for FJE AOC?) what is to become of Flyjet. The last discussion on pprune a while ago said both their aircraft were to be returned to lessor at the end of the year, so obviously new aircraft will need to be sourced if there is a future for them. I personally think that Flyjet could become a small, niche charter company, much like AEU started off - given a bit of focus?
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