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Old 6th Sep 2013, 15:05
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WDL411 16:55 VAGAR (FAROE ISLAND/FAEROERNE on 07/09/2013

What is charter for?

Seen that July had a increase in pax numbers how is the overall on pax through the airport year on todate
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 20:12
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I know that WDL brought in the German under-21 squad for tonight's match against the Faroes on Thursday or Wednesday. I guess the flights goes to Vagar to collect them tomorrow. Not sure why it positioned out to NOC in the first place, though.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 22:47
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BHX

Having looked closely at flybe's booking engine over the last few days BHX-NOC was available as a route for a few days but no flights showing as bookable. It has now dissappeared altogether. There are numerous connections through EDI which could and have previously been bookable. The same scenario happened with BHX-WAT with the booking engine showing it in the drop down menu, only for it to dissappear then reappear when announced. It looked at one point like EIR would run 3x weekly in winter. I would hazard a guess flybe are to take over the route. It would make a lot of sense. EIR came in on a daily basis and really haven't done any favours for it having had over 90% load factor last summer to not even bookable past October. Flybe have good brand recognition in the BHX market and seem able to hold their own against low fare operators such as EZY.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 23:01
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As NOC-EDI is being dropped for winter in October, any connections to BHX are gone. I don't think that BE will open the route this winter, at least 2014 before anything happens.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 23:03
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Yeah but quite a few weeks left of EDI and its bookable in 2014 with connections via EDI to other places but not BHX despite high frequency on EDI-BHX
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 23:06
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Possibly but a bit late for a winter start.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 23:11
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This is true. EIR ammended BHX-SNN times on 3 days and it looked like they were going to keep going over winter. They may of course still have something up their sleeves.......
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There might be something in that BHX thing alright. It would be welcome - I'd choose BE over EIR on the same route every day of the week, they are much more reliable and comfortable in my experience.

In other news, August was the second busiest month in the airport's history with 85,000+ travellers using the airport. You can spin this either way of course, while the numbers are very strong in what has been a relatively difficult year for the airport (compared to the last few of steady growth) August 2012 was the busiest ever month so there will have been a year on year drop for August of about four or five percent.

I'd imagine they are still well on target to break 650k passengers this year though which, considering they lost those two Ryanair Euro routes which were artificially increasing the figures somewhat, wouldn't be a bad result.
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 22:33
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It's all a bit strange the way ei pulled the route even had they gone 4 wkly for winter it would have made more sense. Anyway here's hoping for an e175 service if be take on the route.

It's a pity that jet 2 don't have a base at bhx a low cost jet service besides fr is what would bring inthe numbers fr would drop ema if they done bhx.

I think ei mainline 4 wkly would work after all my travel done a daily a320 granted back in boom time but really successful .

Anyway it said on their facebook page that they are hopeful of confirming their bhx winter schedule next wk.
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 18:05
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Anymore news on the BHX front?
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According to airports social media they expect to have their bhx schedule confirmed early in the coming week.According to flybe thread there is definitely capacity in the bhx base to run a route to noc so fingers crossed.
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According to airports social media they expect to have their bhx schedule confirmed early in the coming week.According to flybe thread there is definitely capacity in the bhx base to run a route to noc so fingers crossed[QUOTE]

Hi All

I think it will a waste of time putting a dash Q400 on the route it wants a E175/E195 to make a succees of the BHX/NOC route like it was before with BMIBABY or Mytravellite.
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 21:13
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Totally agree but with flybe cost cutting and trying to stem their losses they stated that ejets would be used on business routes and longer med routes.I'm sure a q400 would be cheaper to run to noc than an embraer. But here's hoping would love to see a daily e175.
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 21:15
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Without saying never but I think the chances of a flybe jet on BHX-NOC is very unlikely.

The 175 only holds ten more seats than the Q400 and the schedule is maxed out during the winter for the three based aircraft.

As for the 195, it appears the BHX base is going down to one operational on the Air France code-share Paris. There will be still plenty visiting from EDI & GLA but they are on straight turnarounds.

This means either one of the four new 175's or more than likely if it happens the same Q400 that sits on the ground the Waterford doesn't operate (Tue, Thu, Sat) or a major revamp of the schedule, which is only weeks away making it unlikely.

Monarch - well..........it would be well outside their comfort zone with the likes of Munich, Milan gone (fingers burnt), Bordeaux (with no competition) operating barely half full, it would take some arm-twisting especially when thus far they have ignored easier city targets from BHX such as Prague and Lisbon.

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Old 15th Sep 2013, 21:43
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BHX to Knock

Perhaps bmi Regional ...they are stopping Lyon soon from BHX so could do NOC instead ?
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 21:50
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If it were to be started again it would probably be Flybe though definitely not with a jet. BMI Regional a very unlikely runner.
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Old 15th Sep 2013, 22:22
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The shame of it all is MON possibly could make a tidy killing on NOC but persuading them may be another story. I would agree BE is most likely candidate if EIR do bow out....its late for them to launch a schedule now. BM a very, very long shot.....but who knows.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 13:45
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With Monarch's cost base? Doubt it, I believe thats why they ignore Domestic routes and the likes of routes to Amsterdam/Paris. The airport's best bet is most definitely Flybe.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 12:55
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Agreed Jack - no question, everything points to flybe and a dash 8. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 13:01
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It would be an increase in capacity. Still no announcement, end of week keeps being mentioned. Love to know what's happened with EIR and why they seem to have chopped and changed plans.
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