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Stelios did a good job when hands on.
Perfect timing for him to be hands on.
Everybody is tightening their belts. Those that can squeze the tightest will still be here on the other side.
Low cost appear to have a problem. Their customer base is low paid? However, if you need to fly you need to fly. The low costs have great networks and businessmen still need to fly. If they keep service good and costs low there is nothing left to do. They also have some cracking good managers and a very lean structure.
The 25 strong stag parties might wain, but EZY will be there on the other side IMHO.
Perfect timing for him to be hands on.
Everybody is tightening their belts. Those that can squeze the tightest will still be here on the other side.
Low cost appear to have a problem. Their customer base is low paid? However, if you need to fly you need to fly. The low costs have great networks and businessmen still need to fly. If they keep service good and costs low there is nothing left to do. They also have some cracking good managers and a very lean structure.
The 25 strong stag parties might wain, but EZY will be there on the other side IMHO.
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greuzi the lo-cos have a wide variety of pax. You'll find some very rich people fly with them and a lot of celebs do too, purely cos they are flying to european destinations whereby a meal isn't necessary so there is not always a reason to fly with a more expensive airline if the ticket price is hugely different. At the end of the day, economy differs little betwene airlines except with those that offer IFE and meals. A lot of pax are actually leaving the likes of BA because of the economic downturn and moving to lo-cos. The pax loads at EZY have been up quite a fair amount of the past few months whereas BA's have started to dip so bizarrely, the credit crunch is actually good for the lo-cos as like you said, people still need to fly, they just now want to pay less for the privelege :P
There is only one thing stopping EZY being an outstanding airline - seat allocation.
It beggars belief that the numpties in charge haven't cottoned onto this and the fact it could be an additional source of revenue.
It beggars belief that the numpties in charge haven't cottoned onto this and the fact it could be an additional source of revenue.
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Cornish.....that's my exact point so no dispute required.
DtA.....200% agree. Just this one thing would stop there being a difference between EZY and a flag / legacy carrier. It would definitely benefit business particularly as Cornish agrees that all sorts of people fly EZY.
Hope they listen.
DtA.....200% agree. Just this one thing would stop there being a difference between EZY and a flag / legacy carrier. It would definitely benefit business particularly as Cornish agrees that all sorts of people fly EZY.
Hope they listen.
Is Stelios the right person ?
The person who starts a business and grows it quickly is not necessarily the best person to keep running it. Entrepreneurs make poor professional managers.
The message to management here seems to be I want to run it again as I can run it better than you which undermines the existing management.
Given the track record of running "Easy startups" then I think there is a real danger here for the company and brand in the long term.
Stelios's EGO is now dictating how Easyjet must be run.
The person who starts a business and grows it quickly is not necessarily the best person to keep running it. Entrepreneurs make poor professional managers.
The message to management here seems to be I want to run it again as I can run it better than you which undermines the existing management.
Given the track record of running "Easy startups" then I think there is a real danger here for the company and brand in the long term.
Stelios's EGO is now dictating how Easyjet must be run.
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Seat allocation would hurt Easy. The reason everyone gets to check-in and the gate early is to get the seat they want. It works well, and should be kept the way it is.
"Seat allocation would hurt Easy. The reason everyone gets to check-in and the gate early is to get the seat they want. It works well, and should be kept the way it is."
But it does not work. I flew recently EMA- VCE and back with EZY, and it was a real bunfight when boarding. I felt sorry for those who paid for so-called "Priority Boarding" on the way back - at VCE everyone goes on the same coaches to the remote stand, and the only "priority" given is that you are first on the bus. Big deal. That is taking money under false pretences.
And at EMA people are put in groups for boarding sequence, so getting to the check-in desk or gate early guarantees nothing.
Seat allocation would mean introducing systems that EZY does not have at present, so there would be a cost.
But it does not work. I flew recently EMA- VCE and back with EZY, and it was a real bunfight when boarding. I felt sorry for those who paid for so-called "Priority Boarding" on the way back - at VCE everyone goes on the same coaches to the remote stand, and the only "priority" given is that you are first on the bus. Big deal. That is taking money under false pretences.
And at EMA people are put in groups for boarding sequence, so getting to the check-in desk or gate early guarantees nothing.
Seat allocation would mean introducing systems that EZY does not have at present, so there would be a cost.
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The thing with "Priority boarding" is you do get what you pay for!
The price depends on airport facilities, Higher price is for jet bridge and means first to board plane, lower price means first on the bus (Being first on the bus means that you will be on the 'first bus' and therefore sitting with the people you are travelling with), medium price is where airports mix the two! This is explained when you book it, don't see what all the fuss is about, lol
Maybe its all more to do with what the customer is expecting not what they actually bought! I myself would like allocated seats, can't see that happening any time soon on the major lo-co's.
Stelio's, hmm not sure on that one but i'll keep watching
The price depends on airport facilities, Higher price is for jet bridge and means first to board plane, lower price means first on the bus (Being first on the bus means that you will be on the 'first bus' and therefore sitting with the people you are travelling with), medium price is where airports mix the two! This is explained when you book it, don't see what all the fuss is about, lol
Maybe its all more to do with what the customer is expecting not what they actually bought! I myself would like allocated seats, can't see that happening any time soon on the major lo-co's.
Stelio's, hmm not sure on that one but i'll keep watching
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Seat allocation would hurt Easy. The reason everyone gets to check-in and the gate early is to get the seat they want. It works well, and should be kept the way it is.
In the old days those who turned up early got group A.
These days those who pay for speedy can smooch in late.
The majority who check in online all get A regardless of when they turn up.
And a few lost souls wander about with traditional boarding passes and looking a bit confused as to how they turned up early and ended up last in the queue.
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How will EZY finance 350 aircraft
in the current credit market conditions ? Apparently the rumour is that even very large Middle Eastern airlines have none or very little finance in place for their extraordinary buying programme and have very little chance of getting any.
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Essex I,
Jet2.com do allocated seating... on-line pay for the seat you want or turn up at check in and its free...saves the bun fight, family and friends can sit together...works well and is a source of extra revenue, there is a cost to the company...happy pax who aren't stressed out at the gate !
Jet2.com do allocated seating... on-line pay for the seat you want or turn up at check in and its free...saves the bun fight, family and friends can sit together...works well and is a source of extra revenue, there is a cost to the company...happy pax who aren't stressed out at the gate !
"But it does not work. I flew recently EMA- VCE and back with EZY, and it was a real bunfight when boarding. I felt sorry for those who paid for so-called "Priority Boarding" on the way back - at VCE everyone goes on the same coaches to the remote stand, and the only "priority" given is that you are first on the bus. Big deal. That is taking money under false pretences."
It does work but depends on the Airport.
I've done it on a BCN-LGW flight and key thing was getting to the front of the bus, driver clearly directed speedy boarders there. When bus came to plane he opened door first and ensured everyone who was a speedy boarder got off first before opening the rest of the doors.
Normally not an issue as most flight I have taken from BCN have used the jetbridge but this was a delayed flight.
It does work but depends on the Airport.
I've done it on a BCN-LGW flight and key thing was getting to the front of the bus, driver clearly directed speedy boarders there. When bus came to plane he opened door first and ensured everyone who was a speedy boarder got off first before opening the rest of the doors.
Normally not an issue as most flight I have taken from BCN have used the jetbridge but this was a delayed flight.
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SLF here. Easyjet flights seem to consist primarily of queuing, whatever priority you think you've paid to be. You pay for priority boarding and still end up in a queue, even though it's apparently a queue to get on first.
I've given up flying lo-co, because the savings usually evaporate once you factor in luggage, check-in and transport from a secondary airport. In the febrile atmosphere of some lo-co departure lounges, the rudeness of staff (and I do understand how their patience has been eroded) often has tempers at boiling point before you even reach the plane. It's a draining experience. I'd rather pay what often turns out to be a low premium to check in online to a specific seat, get my G&T free, not have to find cash for my toasted sandwich, and not feel guilty about the case in the hold. It gives me confidence (although that confidence may be irrational), that the company won't resent deploying the oxygen masks for me, or replacing the l/g tyres if the tread looks less than optimal.
I know that many of you work for lo-cos, so I hope I'm not offending you by wishing that this is not the future of passenger flying. It makes 'SLF' a horribly un-humourous acronym.
I've given up flying lo-co, because the savings usually evaporate once you factor in luggage, check-in and transport from a secondary airport. In the febrile atmosphere of some lo-co departure lounges, the rudeness of staff (and I do understand how their patience has been eroded) often has tempers at boiling point before you even reach the plane. It's a draining experience. I'd rather pay what often turns out to be a low premium to check in online to a specific seat, get my G&T free, not have to find cash for my toasted sandwich, and not feel guilty about the case in the hold. It gives me confidence (although that confidence may be irrational), that the company won't resent deploying the oxygen masks for me, or replacing the l/g tyres if the tread looks less than optimal.
I know that many of you work for lo-cos, so I hope I'm not offending you by wishing that this is not the future of passenger flying. It makes 'SLF' a horribly un-humourous acronym.
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Seat allocation would hurt Easy. The reason everyone gets to check-in and the gate early is to get the seat they want. It works well, and should be kept the way it is.
Although people might not turn up early, we have 45min cutoff down over here, and if you miss this, you are put on the next flight plus a fee. What I also like is that on Jetstar International/Air Asia flights, you also have the option to chose your seat. It really does put the stress out of some people, and you can change your seat online anytime up to departure.
Certianly am suprised that Ryanair, Easyjet have not implemented such a thing. Certianly would boost revenue's
A lot of pax are actually leaving the likes of BA because of the economic downturn and moving to lo-cos. The pax loads at EZY have been up quite a fair amount of the past few months whereas BA's have started to dip
It wouldn't surprise me if Easy earn more revenue during this recession than Ryanair.
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Having open conflict between board members and the executive is a recipe for disaster. Happened at Hewlett-Packard in 2003 and it took the company a couple of years to recover. Too many chefs....
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