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Old 13th Feb 2017, 17:35
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Are you sure? My understanding was that the bags are scanned in LCY and are not removed at SNN unless required.
Have never used the BA service but would be pretty confident they must be removed.
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Old 13th Feb 2017, 18:38
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Originally Posted by Jamie2k9
Have never used the BA service but would be pretty confident they must be removed.
I imagine they are removed at SNN but we were just shown a picture and asked if it was ours. it would be odd to take a picture in LCY and then send picture to SNN. A lot higher chance of something going wrong that way I guess.

Customs is in SNN with the bag check. I didnt look in the shop at SNN so maybe we couldnt buy anything there anyway.
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Old 13th Feb 2017, 23:51
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So can somebody please confirm (not assume/imagine/confident/etc.): what happens to the bags on BA1 at SNN - ARE they offloaded/inspected/reloaded, or do they remain in the hold? Whare are those pictures of the bags taken (just outside picture, or picture of the HBS at LCY which would give clues of the bag's contents)?
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:27
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When BA cancelled BA3/4, was that owed more to a general decine in pax numbers on this route pair, or was this a long-term effect of BA3 losing the US pre-clearance at SNN in 2012 (actually cancelling this facility for BA3's pax, making BA3 less attractive for travellers)?
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:35
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I believe the cancellation of BA3&4 was due to the withdrawal of support for the route by a large corporate client.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 11:47
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What was the Jan pax figure for Jan vly?
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Old 11th Mar 2017, 14:10
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As reported in the Cityjet thread, RTM is not bookable beyond April 30, so LCY will be down to four year round WX-routes: AMS, DUB, FLR and ANR. Roughly a dozen daily flights left. With AMS, DUB and FLR all BACF destinations and ANR operated on a wet-lease basis by another airline, one has to wonder how long Cityjet will soldier on at LCY before throwing in the towel.

Particularly sad as RTM-LCY was the second route VLM opened and for many years it was the airline's busiest with up to 10 daily flights-
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 19:18
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BBA502 C-GWYD CS100 FTV2 just left Wichita on its way via overnight in YMX to complete its validation for LCY
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Old 20th Mar 2017, 22:12
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Just read in Airport magazine that because of the now more complicated immigration procedures several EU countries think about scrapping pre-clearance. SNN was explicitly mentioned - I suppose this would be the kiss of death for LCY-JFK?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 10:13
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Originally Posted by virginblue
Just read in Airport magazine that because of the now more complicated immigration procedures several EU countries think about scrapping pre-clearance. SNN was explicitly mentioned - I suppose this would be the kiss of death for LCY-JFK?
I'm not seeing it in the latest Airport magazine - is there an online link? There was an Irish review of preclearance in the last few weeks on foot of the proposed US immigration rules but the conclusion was that there would be no change to preclearance in Ireland, so it will continue in DUB and SNN. However the Dutch government announced they would not proceed with negotiations to set up preclearance in AMS - this may be one of the "several European countries"?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 14:48
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It was in the other Airport magazine (the one for the public) from Key. It had a longish feature on LCY and indeed the Netherlands and Ireland were mentioned as reviewing preclearance. Given that the article was probably written a couple of months ago, things re SNN look more positive by now, apparently.

The article also included an interview with the CEO in which he talked about developing LCY into a transfer-friendly airport to allow more connections (I was surprised to hear that he mentioned that currently transfers were sometimes done by staff escorting transfer passengers from the airplane - is that true? Has never happened to me when I connected on BA). And he also talked about having a Crossrail station added at relatively reasonable cost to connect LCY and LHR and allow transfers between the two.

One other piece of interesting information was how many LCY employees live very near the airport (he was congratulating himself how important LCY is for the local community).
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 16:45
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If the CEO thinks that a Crossrail station at LCY can be added at low cost he's in la-la land. That planning and construction opportunity sailed years ago. It would have been very easy (and relatively low cost) to add a station during construction, but the airport wasn't willing to pay for it. For context, the new stations at Canary Wharf and Woolwich have been financed by the relevant property developers - indeed Canary Wharf actually built their Crossrail station as well as paying for it.
It would be far more difficult / disruptive / expensive to add a new sub surface station once the rail service is operating - and tfl have zero interest in having anyone disrupt their new train set which is (in transport planning terms) almost ready to open.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 17:17
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Following Br8fmr's post - BBA502 C-GWYD CS100 FTV2 will shortly be arriving at Stansted before starting LCY approval flights this week - just in case anyone is interested!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 18:25
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Never ever seen a passenger escorted to another plane. Escorted to the front of immigration and front of security, yeah very rarely if that's what he means. Only domestic arrivals would be authorised to bypass security reclearance in any case.

Not sure why London Pax thinks LCY would build an underground station when Crossrail is above ground level at LCY but in any case, land has been set aside next to the tracks for future development when someone is prepared to pay for it. Original site of station could not be used because the track is curved and I understand new station platforms must be built straight. Will it be cheap, no nothing is these days. Biggest problem is getting them from the station to the airport without walking through the local residential area. That could be underground sure, but a low cost way might involve some sort of shuttle bus, at least initially until you can assess the uptake.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 12:49
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CSeries now flight testing at LCY
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 15:36
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CS100 at LCY about to take off!
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 17:55
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Originally Posted by virginblue
I was surprised to hear that he mentioned that currently transfers were sometimes done by staff escorting transfer passengers from the airplane - is that true? ... And he also talked about having a Crossrail station added at relatively reasonable cost ...One other piece of interesting information was how many LCY employees live very near the airport (he was congratulating himself how important LCY is for the local community).
I can recall back in VLM days a passenger being so escorted between two VLM flights, I was on board the second for Manchester (shows how long ago it was) and we waited for them. The handling agent picked out their bag from the incoming on the next stand and carried it for them.

Not often realised but Crossrail passes physically under the aircraft ramp near the Jet Centre in a tunnel. However inserting a station there would not really be practical, nor even would one at the old Silvertown station site used years ago, as the railway is on a long continuous curve there, and new stations with curved platforms are no longer allowed due to the disability access regulations.

LCY as part of the Section 106 planning permission agreement has a fixed target percentage for employees to live in the defined local area, which assuaged politicians at the time. Unfortunately the issue is that if you have a good employee who does well, they buy a better house further out and you have to keep recruiting locally again just to maintain the status quo.
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 12:55
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TAP to open a route to Lisbon
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 14:17
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
TAP to open a route to Lisbon
Really?
When?
Aircraft?
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Old 18th Apr 2017, 14:19
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Tap Express I'd have thought on the E-Jet
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