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I wonder though what other airlines they could really want to move into the new terminal. flybe will have a fairly large combined operation in the terminal next year also bearing in mind any future expansion. Perhaps Lufthansa and SAS could join Star Alliance partner Swiss in T2, otherwise I can't really think of any suitable suggestions. Is there a major cost difference for airlines in using one terminal over the other? I certainly doubt we'd see bmibaby there anyway, despite us having a large poster in T2 saying something along the lines of us "now playing with the big boys" 
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Nightstopping
According to this http://www.nextgenerationairline.com...e_jan_mar2.pdf
there will be 6 BAcon a/c nightstopping plus whatever Flybe currently have assumably
And according to this
http://www.nextgenerationairline.com...me_apr07_2.pdf
there will be 10 of the new combined fleet
there will be 6 BAcon a/c nightstopping plus whatever Flybe currently have assumably
And according to this
http://www.nextgenerationairline.com...me_apr07_2.pdf
there will be 10 of the new combined fleet
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With a potential ten based flybe aircraft, as well as their aircraft that fly in from other bases, bmibaby's eight based aircraft with a potential of ten by the end of the year, and Monarch's four A321s, hopefully 2007 will be a good year for BHX.
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Chrism20
Cheers for the link - absolutely stunned at the number of 145's at Oct 07.
If as stated before there is this 6 or 12 million sweetener then it sure is going to be needed if the fare structure is going to be that of flybe's.
I trust the five based will be Stuttgart, Dusseldorf, Paris, Frankfurt and Paris?
bmibaby
Jury is still out on 2007, but all the ZB and baby gains could be wiped by the bacon/flybe merger plus some IT reductions (one Sanford etc etc)
Also it might depend on this other rumour of Budapest, Venice for baby, do you know if this is likely?
I had a good comparison yesterday between Baby and flybe on a day trip to Edinburgh.
Aircraft wise a draw, the Dash 8 was nice and smooth even as we went through a rain shower on finals at EDI. G-BVZG on the way home was great as well but a little bit less legroom.
However everything else baby trounced flybe. Web online check-in on baby was great, I could choose my seat and no in your face threats of £10 penalty if crumpled my boarding pass.
Flybe allocated my seat with no option to change and although second to check-in we got 11A/B over the wheels, which meant one of us could not put there feet out straight and there was no window. I trust this rim does not run along the whole of the aircraft for window seats?
G-JECO also went tech on arrival, it was already 25 late on
stand with no explanation. The Glasgow out at the same time
was cancelled!!!!!
We left an hour late (BE282) but the flight was good but
the landing extremely hard.
Baby closed the doors 5 late, airborne 10 minutes later
from EDI and arrived BHX 10 early. The bags were on
the belt at scheduled time of arrival
22.40
Well done baby and BHX for having the bus ready as
we arrived on an International stand - 54!!!!
Pete
Cheers for the link - absolutely stunned at the number of 145's at Oct 07.
If as stated before there is this 6 or 12 million sweetener then it sure is going to be needed if the fare structure is going to be that of flybe's.
I trust the five based will be Stuttgart, Dusseldorf, Paris, Frankfurt and Paris?
bmibaby
Jury is still out on 2007, but all the ZB and baby gains could be wiped by the bacon/flybe merger plus some IT reductions (one Sanford etc etc)
Also it might depend on this other rumour of Budapest, Venice for baby, do you know if this is likely?
I had a good comparison yesterday between Baby and flybe on a day trip to Edinburgh.
Aircraft wise a draw, the Dash 8 was nice and smooth even as we went through a rain shower on finals at EDI. G-BVZG on the way home was great as well but a little bit less legroom.
However everything else baby trounced flybe. Web online check-in on baby was great, I could choose my seat and no in your face threats of £10 penalty if crumpled my boarding pass.
Flybe allocated my seat with no option to change and although second to check-in we got 11A/B over the wheels, which meant one of us could not put there feet out straight and there was no window. I trust this rim does not run along the whole of the aircraft for window seats?
G-JECO also went tech on arrival, it was already 25 late on
stand with no explanation. The Glasgow out at the same time
was cancelled!!!!!
We left an hour late (BE282) but the flight was good but
the landing extremely hard.
Baby closed the doors 5 late, airborne 10 minutes later
from EDI and arrived BHX 10 early. The bags were on
the belt at scheduled time of arrival
22.40Well done baby and BHX for having the bus ready as
we arrived on an International stand - 54!!!!
Pete
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The Sunair/BA Billund flight was again cancelled tonight. Is this down to crew/aircraft shortages or lack of pax? If it was the latter, maybe introducing a morning flight (similar to Manchester) would be benficial.
Well done to baby tonight. The evening Belfast flight was running late outbound so BMI5605, the East Mids - Aldergrove flight has tonight operated EMA-BHX-BFS to pick up the Brum passengers. However, unless some pax got transferred to FlyBE, there must be quite a few empty seats on the aircraft to accomadate the additional pax.
Fried Chicken
Well done to baby tonight. The evening Belfast flight was running late outbound so BMI5605, the East Mids - Aldergrove flight has tonight operated EMA-BHX-BFS to pick up the Brum passengers. However, unless some pax got transferred to FlyBE, there must be quite a few empty seats on the aircraft to accomadate the additional pax.
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I do not want to sound too grim but I wouldn't be too surprised if
both flights got on to one on a Tuesday night.
I also was wondering what happened to flybe GLA pax yesterday
morning. Non seemed to be on our flights and if there were there
was certainly no offer of onward transportation from EDI to GLA.
Pete
I do not want to sound too grim but I wouldn't be too surprised if
both flights got on to one on a Tuesday night.
I also was wondering what happened to flybe GLA pax yesterday
morning. Non seemed to be on our flights and if there were there
was certainly no offer of onward transportation from EDI to GLA.
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November Pax up - just
Birmingham Airport have reported: -
"Birmingham International Airport (BIA) handled 596,721 passengers during November, including 499,805 scheduled passengers and 96,916 charter passengers spread across the two passenger terminals, resulting in an increase of 2% over the previous year.
For further details, and to read the press release, please click the link to the right of this page."
So much for my 620000, I remain in the dunces corner for another
month. I used to quite good at this but I seem to now
be far too optimistic.
Here's to December, it should be up as well but I might have to
downgrade my estimate when I have found what I have done with it!
Pete
"Birmingham International Airport (BIA) handled 596,721 passengers during November, including 499,805 scheduled passengers and 96,916 charter passengers spread across the two passenger terminals, resulting in an increase of 2% over the previous year.
For further details, and to read the press release, please click the link to the right of this page."
So much for my 620000, I remain in the dunces corner for another
month
. I used to quite good at this but I seem to now be far too optimistic.
Here's to December, it should be up as well but I might have to
downgrade my estimate when I have found what I have done with it!
Pete
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Flybe allocated my seat with no option to change and although second to check-in we got 11A/B over the wheels, which meant one of us could not put there feet out straight and there was no window. I trust this rim does not run along the whole of the aircraft for window seats?
Flybe allocated my seat with no option to change and although second to check-in we got 11A/B over the wheels, which meant one of us could not put there feet out straight and there was no window. I trust this rim does not run along the whole of the aircraft for window seats?
On the Q400 the wheels are not retracted into the fuselage so not reaaly seated over the wheels. The rim does run down the length of the cabin but I am confused about what other aircraft you are able to fully put your feet out on when in a window seat?
I will agree with the landings though!
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Dunces corner again for me re the undercarriage
- sorry
It was my friend who first mentioned this as he was sitting in the
window seat and it looked far more noticeable than any other
airliner we have been on (30 plus types).
I sat by the window on the 735 on the way home and it was fine
and certainly not as noticeable as the DASH 8.
As for flybe/baby, it certainly was good to fly both on the
same day and as I say aircraft wise there was little to choose
and don't ask me why but I always feel safer on a turboprop!
The girls worked hard on the flybe but I suppose the tech delay
on a new aircraft probably just highlighted the differences on the day.
Personally can't wait to fly on the Dash 8 again just wish
they could get over these tech problems.
I was on the 08.45 and it was 85-90% business and
although some were annoyed, the aircraft seemed to be
well received and non of the usual "did this fly in war"
comments - people seemed more concerned at missing
meetings etc.
Pete
Dunces corner again for me re the undercarriage
- sorryIt was my friend who first mentioned this as he was sitting in the
window seat and it looked far more noticeable than any other
airliner we have been on (30 plus types).
I sat by the window on the 735 on the way home and it was fine
and certainly not as noticeable as the DASH 8.
As for flybe/baby, it certainly was good to fly both on the
same day and as I say aircraft wise there was little to choose
and don't ask me why but I always feel safer on a turboprop!
The girls worked hard on the flybe but I suppose the tech delay
on a new aircraft probably just highlighted the differences on the day.
Personally can't wait to fly on the Dash 8 again just wish
they could get over these tech problems.
I was on the 08.45 and it was 85-90% business and
although some were annoyed, the aircraft seemed to be
well received and non of the usual "did this fly in war"
comments - people seemed more concerned at missing
meetings etc.
Pete
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Hi All
just thought id say hello from the maldives (on honeymoon - yes bmibabyfc is allowed time off work!!)
flew with emirates to DXB and would just like to say how impressed i was with them! Was kind of hoping that the flight was overbooked as the rams were playing and having not missed a match yet this season was desperate to listen to it on radio! My wish came true, offered flight next day and 2 free return tickets to DXB for trav with in a year which we took - even mrs bmibabyfc was okay - i said we should do it because she felt rough from wedding day before but really i was smirking that i could listen to the rams!!
the flight was very good and with it being my first time with EK was expecting high standards from prev travellers experiences! Rather than bore you with the details EK have something to be proud of ........
couple of questions i would like to know though, the boarding was very slow and we pushed late, do they have a kind of 'on the dot' performance ?? would like to know as the flight to Male was delayed too ......... with baby we have to put any delay down and the reason, just wondered if EK have the same policy ?
also i hate BHX to a degree as you cant smoke, when i travel on the football charters i always have to leave it late before going through security and this occasion was no different!! what do the BHX guys think of this ?
anyway back to the sun lounger in the ocean .....
regards as ever
bmibabyfc
just thought id say hello from the maldives (on honeymoon - yes bmibabyfc is allowed time off work!!)
flew with emirates to DXB and would just like to say how impressed i was with them! Was kind of hoping that the flight was overbooked as the rams were playing and having not missed a match yet this season was desperate to listen to it on radio! My wish came true, offered flight next day and 2 free return tickets to DXB for trav with in a year which we took - even mrs bmibabyfc was okay - i said we should do it because she felt rough from wedding day before but really i was smirking that i could listen to the rams!!
the flight was very good and with it being my first time with EK was expecting high standards from prev travellers experiences! Rather than bore you with the details EK have something to be proud of ........
couple of questions i would like to know though, the boarding was very slow and we pushed late, do they have a kind of 'on the dot' performance ?? would like to know as the flight to Male was delayed too ......... with baby we have to put any delay down and the reason, just wondered if EK have the same policy ?
also i hate BHX to a degree as you cant smoke, when i travel on the football charters i always have to leave it late before going through security and this occasion was no different!! what do the BHX guys think of this ?
anyway back to the sun lounger in the ocean .....
regards as ever
bmibabyfc
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From next year there'll be no smoking in any airport in the UK anyway, will there?
At Dublin there are always loads of pax hanging outside having their cigarettes before going through boarding - quite sheltered too.
There was a bit of a kick up over here a while ago about some sort of smoking area they have put on the airside. It was in the paper that it was put in for the American soldiers going through Shannon to/from Iraq and elsewhere! Presume it's still there.
I remember being in Washington airport just over 3 years ago and waiting for another flight. Eventhough the airport was non-smoking there was a big smoking room beside one of the bars and you could have a cigarette there eventhough I was too young to drink over there.
At Dublin there are always loads of pax hanging outside having their cigarettes before going through boarding - quite sheltered too.
There was a bit of a kick up over here a while ago about some sort of smoking area they have put on the airside. It was in the paper that it was put in for the American soldiers going through Shannon to/from Iraq and elsewhere! Presume it's still there.
I remember being in Washington airport just over 3 years ago and waiting for another flight. Eventhough the airport was non-smoking there was a big smoking room beside one of the bars and you could have a cigarette there eventhough I was too young to drink over there.
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KTHY Turkish Airlines
According to another site, KTHY are to start a weekly scheduled service from BHX to Ercan in N Cyprus via Dalaman from May 07 - nothing on their website about it and can't find any other info - anybody got any hard facts or is it a rumour gone mad??!!
Good news about Nov pax figures
2007 just has to be better for BHX (although the BE/BACON situation no doubt will leave us holding our breath for a while longer yet!)
Good news about Nov pax figures
2007 just has to be better for BHX (although the BE/BACON situation no doubt will leave us holding our breath for a while longer yet!)
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Yes, going in the right direction and December should be the same, January would have been up as well but flybe might wipe that out.
Also 1.8% up was quite mediocre, with far too many empty seats but
at least long-haul was decent with Conti averaging 156 a flight, EK
206 a flight, PK over 170 per flight and I think Cancun and GOA was
up as well.
There were also some shockers such as Paris (nearly 4000 down) &
Copenhagen 2000. Both routes suffered equipment downgrades
from last winter (BA Paris now only one RJ100 compared to three
and one SAS DH8/MD compared to two MD's)
There were also a lot of small decreases between 0-500 pax.
Not heard the one about KTHY.
Pete
Yes, going in the right direction and December should be the same, January would have been up as well but flybe might wipe that out.
Also 1.8% up was quite mediocre, with far too many empty seats but
at least long-haul was decent with Conti averaging 156 a flight, EK
206 a flight, PK over 170 per flight and I think Cancun and GOA was
up as well.
There were also some shockers such as Paris (nearly 4000 down) &
Copenhagen 2000. Both routes suffered equipment downgrades
from last winter (BA Paris now only one RJ100 compared to three
and one SAS DH8/MD compared to two MD's)
There were also a lot of small decreases between 0-500 pax.
Not heard the one about KTHY.
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I see a couple of Wizz flights diverted into Brum this morning despite them shortly opening routes to Coventry. A shame Brum couldn't have got these routes, I presume Wizz did approach Brum but at the end of the day, Coventry tabled a better deal?
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I'm not sure that BHX were probably even aware that Wizz were looking to start flights from the Midlands given the minimal interest (until VERY recently) of the BHX Marketing teams interest in lo-co - and thats only cos they have to be now, given that their hallowed BA/BACON are about to vacate the premises. Sorry to be cynical but I just don't think BHX is anywhere near its potential route development wise, there have been some major opportunities missed. If BHX were approached by Wizz and couldn't offer them a deal based on the fact that they have the future potential to develop an East European network so badly needed at BHX (look at the routes they offer from LPL, BFS and DSA) then that really says it all Good luck to them at CVT!
Good luck to them at CVT!
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Transatlantic Flights
I have just posted on the Shannon thread that AA are showing a
Chicago - Shannon 757 route for next summer and does anybody
think that this is potential route for BHX with a 757.
I know they have dropped it once but both the airport and local
council have tried to persuade AA to come back on the route.
I trust that any problems would be westbound due to the
prevailing winds.
Any 757 drivers out there, is this logistically possible from BHX?
I think AA have the 757 in 189 all coach layout.
Pete
Chicago - Shannon 757 route for next summer and does anybody
think that this is potential route for BHX with a 757.
I know they have dropped it once but both the airport and local
council have tried to persuade AA to come back on the route.
I trust that any problems would be westbound due to the
prevailing winds.
Any 757 drivers out there, is this logistically possible from BHX?
I think AA have the 757 in 189 all coach layout.
Pete
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I think AA uses the same aircraft - albeit ET models - as on domestic routes; these have F Class seats, which are assigned to AA's frequent flyer pax.
Incidentally, I'm flying to BHX on Saturday and the weather forecast doesn't look good; does BHX have Cat II/III and if so, are the Flybe Dash 8s equipped for Cat II/III? Visibility forecast is showing as "very poor".
Incidentally, I'm flying to BHX on Saturday and the weather forecast doesn't look good; does BHX have Cat II/III and if so, are the Flybe Dash 8s equipped for Cat II/III? Visibility forecast is showing as "very poor".