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Airport, Aircraft and BOTH Flightcrew need to be CATIII compliant and trained to enable a CATIII landing.
Turkish Cyprus Airways are supposed to be operating flights to northern Cyprus next summer. Also Aer Arran starting a BHX - Waterford service too according to sneak look at a BHX newsletter.
Planning application for runway extension expected early next year. at last!!
Turkish Cyprus Airways are supposed to be operating flights to northern Cyprus next summer. Also Aer Arran starting a BHX - Waterford service too according to sneak look at a BHX newsletter.
Planning application for runway extension expected early next year. at last!!
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Flybe to scrap Spanish flights from Birmingham Airport
21.12.06
Regional budget airline Flybe is set to axe all its flights from Birmingham Airport to Spain in early January, flightmapping.com reports. The airline will cancel its flights Alicante and Malaga on January 7 and 8 respectively.
The airline is pulling out of a heavily saturated market, where they face competition from airlines including BmiBaby, Monarch Scheduled and Thomsonfly, as well as traditional charter operators. There has been no comment from Flybe over the future of flights from Birmingham to Madrid and Barcelona currently operated by BA Connect. Flybe is due to take over BA Connect early next year.
21.12.06
Regional budget airline Flybe is set to axe all its flights from Birmingham Airport to Spain in early January, flightmapping.com reports. The airline will cancel its flights Alicante and Malaga on January 7 and 8 respectively.
The airline is pulling out of a heavily saturated market, where they face competition from airlines including BmiBaby, Monarch Scheduled and Thomsonfly, as well as traditional charter operators. There has been no comment from Flybe over the future of flights from Birmingham to Madrid and Barcelona currently operated by BA Connect. Flybe is due to take over BA Connect early next year.
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Whether this would have happened if the Bacon takeover was not
proposed I do not know but it all seems logical if aircraft are going
to be tight during 2007.
BCN and MAD are both RJ100's and if the takeover goes ahead they
will not have any (only there own 146's). This leaves them with a
choice of the 195 (by pulling it off the AGP/ALC), dropping the
routes, use the 145 or find a 146 (non planned for BHX April+).
Although it is unlikely that they will get any more sectors out of the
195 initially they will go with it on the Madrid or a mix MAD or BCN
(BCN only ops 4 days a week in winter). Possibly they will then
drop BCN in April (Baby start) and perhaps run the Madrid daily
as a 195 in between the morning & evening Glasgow's.
Much as it is frustrating to lose any flight this actually seems
to a good way of juggling the BHX fleet.
The only problem with January is that Monarch have (the last
time I looked) cut the BHX - AGP to 3 a week from 5 and
Alicante to 2. They both revert to the original timetable for
the February school holidays.
I actually e-mailed Monarch to ask them if they intend to re-instate
the axed frequencies and I just got a stock reply "we have passed
your comments to the appropriate team".
Pete
Whether this would have happened if the Bacon takeover was not
proposed I do not know but it all seems logical if aircraft are going
to be tight during 2007.
BCN and MAD are both RJ100's and if the takeover goes ahead they
will not have any (only there own 146's). This leaves them with a
choice of the 195 (by pulling it off the AGP/ALC), dropping the
routes, use the 145 or find a 146 (non planned for BHX April+).
Although it is unlikely that they will get any more sectors out of the
195 initially they will go with it on the Madrid or a mix MAD or BCN
(BCN only ops 4 days a week in winter). Possibly they will then
drop BCN in April (Baby start) and perhaps run the Madrid daily
as a 195 in between the morning & evening Glasgow's.
Much as it is frustrating to lose any flight this actually seems
to a good way of juggling the BHX fleet.
The only problem with January is that Monarch have (the last
time I looked) cut the BHX - AGP to 3 a week from 5 and
Alicante to 2. They both revert to the original timetable for
the February school holidays.
I actually e-mailed Monarch to ask them if they intend to re-instate
the axed frequencies and I just got a stock reply "we have passed
your comments to the appropriate team".
Pete
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Closed today???
From the aer Arran thread;
''As of 10:00am Dec 22, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham and London City airports are closed. ''
Please can I qualify - At no point today has BHX been closed completely to inbound traffic. Aircraft have landed throughout the day however some aircraft unfortunately may have diverted due to their own low visibility capabilities; an issue with the aircraft operated, not the airfield infrastucture. BHX has infact taken many diversions from both Cardiff and Bristol.
-BHXboy-
''As of 10:00am Dec 22, Cardiff, Bristol, Birmingham and London City airports are closed. ''
Please can I qualify - At no point today has BHX been closed completely to inbound traffic. Aircraft have landed throughout the day however some aircraft unfortunately may have diverted due to their own low visibility capabilities; an issue with the aircraft operated, not the airfield infrastucture. BHX has infact taken many diversions from both Cardiff and Bristol.
-BHXboy-
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Does anyone know if flybe managed to off load their pax on to
other operators?
They managed to get none of their flights out last night from BHX despite RVR's in excess of 1500, stating I believe crew duty hours.
The most annoying was BE411 which was late but the crew
were ready to give return figures to Belfast and they were
told to stand-down. It could well be that the pax for the
BE414 and 416 were transferred to Baby but this would be
a surprise if there were many spare seats on a Friday evening.
I trust the aircraft was required in BHX this morning and did
not want to get it stranded in BHD overnight? Still very harsh
on the pax if they were sent home when there was an operating
crew for the flight.
Pete
other operators?
They managed to get none of their flights out last night from BHX despite RVR's in excess of 1500, stating I believe crew duty hours.
The most annoying was BE411 which was late but the crew
were ready to give return figures to Belfast and they were
told to stand-down. It could well be that the pax for the
BE414 and 416 were transferred to Baby but this would be
a surprise if there were many spare seats on a Friday evening.
I trust the aircraft was required in BHX this morning and did
not want to get it stranded in BHD overnight? Still very harsh
on the pax if they were sent home when there was an operating
crew for the flight.
Pete
And here's what it looked like from up front going into BHX on Thursday night with an RVR of 300m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B5v8UOKAso
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B5v8UOKAso
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FlyboyUK
Fantastic!
Also a good timely reminder why you (some of you) get paid so much!
I heard the approaching decision height at around 200 ft, what is it on a 145? The time elapse between that warning and seeing the lights was
so short
.
A good few days for BA at BHX with so few diverts, is it the same minima's
for Dash 8's carrying out CAT 2's?
I assume the 195's are CAT 3?
Pete
Fantastic!
Also a good timely reminder why you (some of you) get paid so much!
I heard the approaching decision height at around 200 ft, what is it on a 145? The time elapse between that warning and seeing the lights was
so short
.A good few days for BA at BHX with so few diverts, is it the same minima's
for Dash 8's carrying out CAT 2's?
I assume the 195's are CAT 3?
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I see the dead passenger shoved in the air india b777 bulk cargo bay the other day has now made it into the local evening mail.Nice little story from AI,near to the truth but lacking they wanted the next crew to fly it to yyz with no paperwork because no one wanted to take the body off at bhx.
Dead man gives airport staff a shock Dec 24 2006
By Leda Reynolds, Birmingham Mail
Dead man gives airport staff a shock Dec 24 2006
By Leda Reynolds, Birmingham Mail
A PILOT at Birmingham International Airport was brought down to earth with a bump - after forgetting there was a dead man on board his plane.
Baggage handlers at Birmingham Airport got more than they bargained for when they unloaded suitcases and boxes from the plane - and found the body of an elderly man.
The man died of a suspected heart attack while on a flight from Delhi to Birmingham.
The Air India Boeing 777 made an emergency landing at Bucharest where the man was pronounced dead and, rather than leave him sitting among the hundreds of passengers, the pilot ordered his body be stashed in the hold before the plane took off again.
However, the Russian pilot forgot about the man and once the passengers had filed off the plane in Birmingham, he and his crew followed, travelling to a nearby hotel.
As passengers waited in the airport's lounge for their luggage, baggage handlers were shocked to see a plastic casket, containing the dead man, who is from Bradford, nestling in the hold together with hundreds of suitcases.
Now the 56-year-old pilot from Moscow has been temporarily grounded after being quizzed by police following the incident on Thursday.
Officers arrived to arrest the pilot on suspicion of causing a public nuisance by forgetting about the body.
A West Midlands Police spokeswoman said the pilot was arrested at around 9.30pm.
"He was arrested and questioned but later released without charge and no further action will be taken," she said.
Kurapati Row, regional manager for Air India, said the dead man was in his 80s.
"There was some surprise among the baggage handlers as there was not enough time to inform everyone about the body, but we had spoken to their supervisors who were aware of what had happened," said Mr Row. "The pilot did get off the aircraft. There were some language difficulties and he was not aware he would be needed.
"There were some difficulties contacting him and the police later spoke to him also. He will be speaking to our staff in Bombay but will not be reprimanded."
Baggage handlers at Birmingham Airport got more than they bargained for when they unloaded suitcases and boxes from the plane - and found the body of an elderly man.
The man died of a suspected heart attack while on a flight from Delhi to Birmingham.
The Air India Boeing 777 made an emergency landing at Bucharest where the man was pronounced dead and, rather than leave him sitting among the hundreds of passengers, the pilot ordered his body be stashed in the hold before the plane took off again.
However, the Russian pilot forgot about the man and once the passengers had filed off the plane in Birmingham, he and his crew followed, travelling to a nearby hotel.
As passengers waited in the airport's lounge for their luggage, baggage handlers were shocked to see a plastic casket, containing the dead man, who is from Bradford, nestling in the hold together with hundreds of suitcases.
Now the 56-year-old pilot from Moscow has been temporarily grounded after being quizzed by police following the incident on Thursday.
Officers arrived to arrest the pilot on suspicion of causing a public nuisance by forgetting about the body.
A West Midlands Police spokeswoman said the pilot was arrested at around 9.30pm.
"He was arrested and questioned but later released without charge and no further action will be taken," she said.
Kurapati Row, regional manager for Air India, said the dead man was in his 80s.
"There was some surprise among the baggage handlers as there was not enough time to inform everyone about the body, but we had spoken to their supervisors who were aware of what had happened," said Mr Row. "The pilot did get off the aircraft. There were some language difficulties and he was not aware he would be needed.
"There were some difficulties contacting him and the police later spoke to him also. He will be speaking to our staff in Bombay but will not be reprimanded."
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Olton Pete
Glad you enjoyed the clip, thought you ground based guys might like to see that we do have to work sometimes!
The CAT II decision height on both ends at BHX is 100 feet radio altitude (when you hear the minimums call), so yes it was pretty close when we got the lights. Once the decision to land is made, I take control from the f/o (monitored approach procedure) the autopilot is taken out at 80 feet and a manual landing carried out as there is no autoland on the 145. I think I've been very lucky over the last few days, having got in on every approach.
Not sure about the Dash 8's but I would have thought they would also be CATII. But it does depend on the company approval, aircraft serviceability and crew training.
As for the 195 I would expect that until it has been in service for a while it won't be approved for CATIII (presuming it has been designed as CATIII capable) as it will need to prove itself as reliable for those conditions as well as the crew getting experience on it. I remember when we first started operating the RJ's we could only do CATIIIA approaches until the company and crews had a certain level of experience on the type. Later on the company was approved for CATIIIB on the RJ.
Merry Christmas
Glad you enjoyed the clip, thought you ground based guys might like to see that we do have to work sometimes!
The CAT II decision height on both ends at BHX is 100 feet radio altitude (when you hear the minimums call), so yes it was pretty close when we got the lights. Once the decision to land is made, I take control from the f/o (monitored approach procedure) the autopilot is taken out at 80 feet and a manual landing carried out as there is no autoland on the 145. I think I've been very lucky over the last few days, having got in on every approach.
Not sure about the Dash 8's but I would have thought they would also be CATII. But it does depend on the company approval, aircraft serviceability and crew training.
As for the 195 I would expect that until it has been in service for a while it won't be approved for CATIII (presuming it has been designed as CATIII capable) as it will need to prove itself as reliable for those conditions as well as the crew getting experience on it. I remember when we first started operating the RJ's we could only do CATIIIA approaches until the company and crews had a certain level of experience on the type. Later on the company was approved for CATIIIB on the RJ.
Merry Christmas
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BHX Ownership
Anyone know any more about the possible sale of shareholding by one or more of the BHX shareholders? Apparently there were quite a few bean counters carrying out a due diligence in Diamond House before Xmas? I suspect 2007 is going to be as eventful and interesting as 2006 for BHX, hopefully in a more positive light!
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AirAsia
The new low cost airline will be called Airasia Express.
AirAsia X plans to launch in July with services from Kuala Lumpur to
Tianjin and Hangzhou in China and from Kuala Lumpur to the UK, says
Fernandes.
He says the Malaysian government has granted AirAsia X traffic rights
to Birmingham and Manchester, and that it was looking at granting
rights to London. The government has ruled-out London Heathrow and
London Gatwick, but industry sources say AirAsia is likely to get
London Stansted.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
AirAsia X plans to launch in July with services from Kuala Lumpur to
Tianjin and Hangzhou in China and from Kuala Lumpur to the UK, says
Fernandes.
He says the Malaysian government has granted AirAsia X traffic rights
to Birmingham and Manchester, and that it was looking at granting
rights to London. The government has ruled-out London Heathrow and
London Gatwick, but industry sources say AirAsia is likely to get
London Stansted.
Source: Air Transport Intelligence news
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I see several airlines have moved their Bristol ops to Birmingham over the last couple of days. This should push Jan's passenger figure up although BHX haven't had the Saudi Hadj flights like last year (which obviously increased the Jan'06 pax figure).
Presumably with the extra flights due to the problems at Bristol, Jan 07 should see a (small) increase in passenger numbers to last year but it would be interesting to know if there would be an increase had these additional flights not happened
Fried Chicken
Presumably with the extra flights due to the problems at Bristol, Jan 07 should see a (small) increase in passenger numbers to last year but it would be interesting to know if there would be an increase had these additional flights not happened
Fried Chicken
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I think Jan 2006 was 564000 and my estimate for Jan 2007 was about
570000-575000.
Based on the flights that are expected to operate, 575000 is very
average. Again another guess but I believe that the Bristol flights
have added 3-5000 thus far.
It is pretty easy to estimate the TOM, FCA & TCK but I am not sure
how many BA have coached back and forth from consolidated BHX
flights such as EDI, GLA, MXP, DUS & FRA.
Still, it could make 600000 this month but again it would not be that
impressive compared to the number of flights. I have constantly
over-estimated for about a year now & I would be surprised to
see 600000 breached but fingers crossed.
Also from tomorrow, Monarch have chopped at least one flight from every route this month (except the weekly ACE) until the February half-term. Add in the fact that flybe are pulling off Malaga and Alicante from this week it will be a tough month but it still should be up with EK, GM, T5, AI (mainly transits) and even W5 pulling in some good pax figures this week.
OP
I think Jan 2006 was 564000 and my estimate for Jan 2007 was about
570000-575000.
Based on the flights that are expected to operate, 575000 is very
average. Again another guess but I believe that the Bristol flights
have added 3-5000 thus far.
It is pretty easy to estimate the TOM, FCA & TCK but I am not sure
how many BA have coached back and forth from consolidated BHX
flights such as EDI, GLA, MXP, DUS & FRA.
Still, it could make 600000 this month but again it would not be that
impressive compared to the number of flights. I have constantly
over-estimated for about a year now & I would be surprised to
see 600000 breached but fingers crossed.
Also from tomorrow, Monarch have chopped at least one flight from every route this month (except the weekly ACE) until the February half-term. Add in the fact that flybe are pulling off Malaga and Alicante from this week it will be a tough month but it still should be up with EK, GM, T5, AI (mainly transits) and even W5 pulling in some good pax figures this week.
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Sorry to be the bearer of "bad news" but I'm 99% certain that those coached passengers will still be counted as BRS passengers and not as BHX passengers as the CAA normally allocates passengers on diverted services back to the airport which they should have flown to/from.
Mind you, if they can combine BHX and BRS passengers on to a single BHX service, it does suggest that one airport or the other must have some quite low loads on BACon services?
Mind you, if they can combine BHX and BRS passengers on to a single BHX service, it does suggest that one airport or the other must have some quite low loads on BACon services?
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Pax Figures
Ringwayman
I think somebody posted a similar explanation after the BHX TNT incident.
It was stated that the pax would be added back to BHX!
Did you see BHX's June figures, if these included the the diverted pax
The only aspect I do not understand is why do the figures sometimes
appear in the individual route analysis? I know they have done,
as I have seen non-BHX destinations after Ryanair diverts.
I also said in my post that Monarch reduce their services from today
for a month but I was a week early, it is next Monday.
OP
I think somebody posted a similar explanation after the BHX TNT incident.
It was stated that the pax would be added back to BHX!
Did you see BHX's June figures, if these included the the diverted pax
The only aspect I do not understand is why do the figures sometimes
appear in the individual route analysis? I know they have done,
as I have seen non-BHX destinations after Ryanair diverts.
I also said in my post that Monarch reduce their services from today
for a month but I was a week early, it is next Monday.
OP
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December 2006 Passenger figures
Up a grand 1.7% to 574237.
This makes 2006 just under 9.15 million or 2.5% down
OP
This makes 2006 just under 9.15 million or 2.5% down
OP
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Anybody know anything about Alajnihah Airlines. On their website, it shows Birmingham (& Manchester) being linked to Tripoli with an A321 service. (possibly leased from a Turkish carrier, hence the Istanbul link?)
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No Qatar?
Although the rumour had long gone very quiet in respect of BHX, it has been reported on another site (translated from Arabic) that the new routes to be announced are likely to be: -
Washington
Stockholm
Warsaw
Geneva
Per another post, a 4th UK destination has been delayed (rumours that it
was GLA) although some believe that BHX was in the frame after ABTN's
little annoucement last year (or was it 2005?).
OP
Washington
Stockholm
Warsaw
Geneva
Per another post, a 4th UK destination has been delayed (rumours that it
was GLA) although some believe that BHX was in the frame after ABTN's
little annoucement last year (or was it 2005?).
OP