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I'm happy FR wont get EI!!! It means we can sit back and watch the battle; EI vs FR, and to a lesser degree FR vs RE!!!!
I want to see FR launch more domestic irish routes, like Dub to Snn, Cork to BFS, and Dub to knock!!!! Yield/loads on Dub to ORK might not be stellar, but a dublin to SNN/Knock might just fit in nicely to keep utilisation up. A fair few people already book Cork to Dublin, and book another flight with FR Dublin to X, Y or Z, so another domestic route might help loads out of Dublin!
I want to see FR launch more domestic irish routes, like Dub to Snn, Cork to BFS, and Dub to knock!!!! Yield/loads on Dub to ORK might not be stellar, but a dublin to SNN/Knock might just fit in nicely to keep utilisation up. A fair few people already book Cork to Dublin, and book another flight with FR Dublin to X, Y or Z, so another domestic route might help loads out of Dublin!
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(English, Irish, French, Dutch, then some Spanish and some German).
Ryanair have no immediate plans to set up a base at TFN. Their current deal with the airport is to start 5 routes to TFN in the first 18 months of operations there.
Would you like to go and work there?
I think TFN could make great year round base for FR, except for the fact that they couldn't have a lot of short-haul flights. Unless of course they were to start flights between the Canary Islands themselves. (Which are probably PSO routes right now, no?)
Conclusion: no immediate plans for a TFN base, but of course it is always possible in the future...
(English, Irish, French, Dutch, then some Spanish and some German).
Ryanair have no immediate plans to set up a base at TFN. Their current deal with the airport is to start 5 routes to TFN in the first 18 months of operations there.
Would you like to go and work there?
I think TFN could make great year round base for FR, except for the fact that they couldn't have a lot of short-haul flights. Unless of course they were to start flights between the Canary Islands themselves. (Which are probably PSO routes right now, no?)
Conclusion: no immediate plans for a TFN base, but of course it is always possible in the future...
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Charlie Roy, Ryanair are constantly monitoring this thread. Cork Prestwick is in my view a route that would work for them without diluting their SNN-PWK to any great extent. Lots of Celtic supporters in Cork and only competition is the double daily ORK-EDI service with RE.
Ryanair have been almost a year on Dublin Cork and have made well over 1,000 landings without one diversion. I wish I could say the same for some of their competitors. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT2 limits for very long.
If only pilots would take on sufficient fuel and hold they'd almost always get in.
Ryanair have been almost a year on Dublin Cork and have made well over 1,000 landings without one diversion. I wish I could say the same for some of their competitors. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT2 limits for very long.
If only pilots would take on sufficient fuel and hold they'd almost always get in.
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Seems like they are starting HHN-AGP instead of Morocco! As well as MRS-GSE and MRS-MMX plus something instead of MRS-OUD
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Ryanair have been almost a year on Dublin Cork and have made well over 1,000 landings without one diversion. I wish I could say the same for some of their competitors. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT2 limits for very long.
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Ryanair have been almost a year on Dublin Cork and have made well over 1,000 landings without one diversion. I wish I could say the same for some of their competitors. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT2 limits for very long.
If only pilots would take on sufficient fuel and hold they'd almost always get in.
If only pilots would take on sufficient fuel and hold they'd almost always get in.
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Bearcat ,
Ryanair crews and aircraft are CAT2 rated . Their diversion rate is almost negligble as a result. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT 2 for very long as poor visibility is caused by low cloudblowing through rather than fog. So if an aircraft has sufficient fuel then there's no problem getting in.
Operating to Cork with pilots and/or aircraft that are not CAT2 inevitably leads to a higher diversion rate ,cancellations and additional expense which is no longer acceptable in the low cost environment of today.
Two major carriers operating to Cork for the last 4 years seldom or never carry out CAT2 approaches and have a far worse diversion rate as a result.
I'm simply paying Ryanair a compliment for their common sense.
Ryanair crews and aircraft are CAT2 rated . Their diversion rate is almost negligble as a result. The Cork RVR rarely stays below CAT 2 for very long as poor visibility is caused by low cloudblowing through rather than fog. So if an aircraft has sufficient fuel then there's no problem getting in.
Operating to Cork with pilots and/or aircraft that are not CAT2 inevitably leads to a higher diversion rate ,cancellations and additional expense which is no longer acceptable in the low cost environment of today.
Two major carriers operating to Cork for the last 4 years seldom or never carry out CAT2 approaches and have a far worse diversion rate as a result.
I'm simply paying Ryanair a compliment for their common sense.
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Post deleted as I have had a look at some of Ryan2000's previous posts.
Ryan2000 thinks the reason Cork doesn't have Cat III is because FR and EI don't kick up a fuss, nothing about the terrain meaning there will never be automatic landings of course.
A quick look at Bearcats previous posts suggests that Ryan2000 should really avoid lecturing him on Cat II approaches, weather and whatever else he sees from inside his anorak.
Ryan2000 thinks the reason Cork doesn't have Cat III is because FR and EI don't kick up a fuss, nothing about the terrain meaning there will never be automatic landings of course.
A quick look at Bearcats previous posts suggests that Ryan2000 should really avoid lecturing him on Cat II approaches, weather and whatever else he sees from inside his anorak.
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Right, Faire D'Income, out with it then and enlighten us about the installation and operation of CATIII ILS equipment. If Cork is unable to have a CATIII ILS aid please outline in detail as to why so because. Who knows, your expert opinion may be more impartial than the DAA or IAA whose opinions on the subject I would be a little slow to take at face value.
Historically, Cork must have one of the highest diversion rates of any airport in Ireland and the UK and you would think that everything technically possible would be done to rectify the situation within reason of the cost.
Finally, how many times have you been on the receiving end of diversions from Cork either as a lofty aircrewmember or as a passenger?
And what about the Cork and FR 737 rumor? The sole Cork aircraft at the moment is paying full wallop for all those four daily landings from Dublin and the one from Gatwick. A tidy sum for the cash strapped Cork office of the DAA!
Historically, Cork must have one of the highest diversion rates of any airport in Ireland and the UK and you would think that everything technically possible would be done to rectify the situation within reason of the cost.
Finally, how many times have you been on the receiving end of diversions from Cork either as a lofty aircrewmember or as a passenger?
And what about the Cork and FR 737 rumor? The sole Cork aircraft at the moment is paying full wallop for all those four daily landings from Dublin and the one from Gatwick. A tidy sum for the cash strapped Cork office of the DAA!
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I can't see what all the fuss is about. I'm merely commenting on the fact that Ryanair has managed to avoid diverting any of their Dublin Cork flights and all but one of their Gatwick Cork flights for the last twelve months.
I accept that there's an element of luck in this but also it's down to the fact that they are willing and able to carry out CAT2 approches unlike some of their competitors.
Their record in SNN and DUB is also excellent yet no one makes any innuendos about that.
CAT 2 rvr limit at Cork is 300m. Neither Aer Rianta/CAA or IAA has ever said that CAT3 is impossible at Cork. The issue is whether it's worth the Capital cost. The amount of diversions it would prevent is quite small especially as some airlines can't get around to implementing CAT2 approaches.
I accept that there's an element of luck in this but also it's down to the fact that they are willing and able to carry out CAT2 approches unlike some of their competitors.
Their record in SNN and DUB is also excellent yet no one makes any innuendos about that.
CAT 2 rvr limit at Cork is 300m. Neither Aer Rianta/CAA or IAA has ever said that CAT3 is impossible at Cork. The issue is whether it's worth the Capital cost. The amount of diversions it would prevent is quite small especially as some airlines can't get around to implementing CAT2 approaches.