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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 19:49
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New Airline .. SAS/SK

Talk on the LTN thread that SK are to introduce STN-GOT is this true ?
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 19:55
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It is true, transferred from LHR.

SK2567 GOT0700 0750STN 736 x67
SK2567 GOT0725 0815STN 736 6
SK2569 GOT1750 1840STN 736 x6


SK2568 STN0830 1115GOT 736 x67
SK2568 STN0855 1140GOT 736 6
SK2570 STN1920 2205GOT 736


Taken from airlineroute
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 20:01
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Nice but guess Ryanair will want price war
Shame would have liked a total new route out of STN
say maybe Helsinki but hope it works out for SAS
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 20:14
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SAS are going into Stansted with their eyes open. Not everyone wants a 10 fare so good luck to SAS and I hope they make a go of it.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 20:49
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Rather than face the wrath of Ryanair, SAS should have gone for SEN where they would have no competition on the route and got fast transits through the terminal etc etc with slots and package to suit them.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 21:08
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Southend so far has a poor track record when it comes to keeping routes. SAS would be aware of that.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 21:18
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Legacy airlines rely on premium passengers.

MAG are very busy constructing two premium lounges in pier 1 in addition to the Aspire Lounge in ther terminal.

Premium passengers demand premium lounges. Not something Sou can currently provide
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 22:24
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Did SAS not historically have a fairly notable operation from STN? Norwegian also used to use it as their main focus point for London-Nordic routes so I guess there is a quite strong demand there, hopefully enough to sustain FR and SAS.
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Old 3rd Jun 2015, 22:30
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Interesting that they consider going up against Ryanair at STN to be preferable to going up against Norwegian at LGW, can't help thinking that it won't end well for them either way but time will tell. Didn't SAS operate at STN as part of the STAR Alliance "experiment" many years ago?.

Saying that the STN flights appear to be just placeholders in their booking website and not actually bookable as yet - but that could be just a work in progress.

Or maybe it's a typo and they meant LTN not STN..??!
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 05:57
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Did SAS not historically have a fairly notable operation from STN? Norwegian also used to use it as their main focus point for London-Nordic routes so I guess there is a quite strong demand there, hopefully enough to sustain FR and SAS.
Back in those days it was Nordic inbound charter flights where passengers would book a holiday to London and would let the airline pick the airport to get them there.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 07:07
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No LTNman, adfly is correct.

Between around 1997 and 9/11, SK had 3x daily CPH, 2x daily ARN and 2x daily OSL. Towards the end 2x daily LHR-SVG was also moved over. Additionally, BGO was also served daily through subsidiary Braathens, moving in from LGW. But, 9/11 happened and along with LH a hasty retreat was made with ops consolidated back at LHR.

Aside from the charters, STN had always been first choice for Scandinavian carriers until very recently. Norwegian as mentioned had a sizeable operation, but also just about every start-up has passed through (Color Air, Goodjet, Flying Finn and more besides). FR and EZY also had a Goidelic few routes between them, and CPH was of course an original Go destination.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 07:44
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OK I stand corrected but I was going back to the 70's, but much has changed since then.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 08:26
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AirportPlanner1, Braathens SAFE was not a subsidiary of SAS the period you mentioned. The merger with SAS started in June 2002 and BU ceased to operate under the BU/BRA AOC two year later. You can still find a number of the original BU routes and they are shown as SK4xxx in the SAS timetable.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 10:05
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LTNman - i think your negative comment on SEN poor track record on keeping routes is made with a tongue in cheek. You are well aware that EZY withdrew the 4 th aircraft which led to a reduction in destinations and frequencies as well as others being withdrawn for un-explained commercial reasons. Also that FLYBE completely decimated the DUB service when they took it over late last year. It carried 60000 + throughout 2014. The loss of these services can not in any way be due to poor service at SEN as you will know from reading this site for a few years

SAS considered SEN and were aware that for the last 2 years it has been voted the best UK airport by Which! readers.

Angels15 -you may not be aware that SEN has a First Class lounge which is due to be extended into the original Laker Bar following the opening of a larger Lakers Restaurant / Bar in the terminal. It has all of the facilities that most other lounges offer.

I have no particular interest in SEN but feel corrections should be made when necessary
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 17:18
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Maybe SAS brass read the Telegraph

I've landed where? Misleading airport names - Telegraph
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 17:56
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Well luton shows as 32 miles out, Stansted airport is 35 miles, and Southend is 42 miles out, so yes Southend is the furthest away from London
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 19:50
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Really depends where you are measuring from. From Canary Wharf for instance LGW is 10 miles further than SEN, and 13 further than STN. SEN is only 10 miles further than LHR
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 20:00
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The loss of these services can not in any way be due to poor service at SEN as you will know from reading this site for a few years
I never said it was due to poor service and acknowledge that SEN is the passengers favorite airport while STN and LTN sit at the other end of the table.

It would seem that this fact was not enough to sway SAS away from Stansted.
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Old 4th Jun 2015, 20:16
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Wethersfield is right they did consider SEN along with STN & LTN - and they made their choice, whether it is the right choice (or even if there is a right choice) only time will tell.

Nice to see the "post BAA" competition dynamic appears to be working with all these airports announcing new carriers over recent months.
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Old 15th Jun 2015, 17:39
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May Traffic

2,049,613 - 2015
1,819,622 - 2014
+12.6%

Can see the growth has declined from mid 20%'s to just over 10%'s guess as FR will not be up massively in summer it will continue lower as they will have nothing grounded!
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