A380 Issues
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From: big gay blackpool
i know this is going off the thread so appologies, but if i was a uk worker id start worrying bout my job, what with french/german majority control...you can just see where jobs will go in the end, may not be now, but what with the mess airbus seems to be in , give it a couple of years or so, you can see the wing building being transfer to spare factory capacity that there have in the continent.. again apoologies for doom mongering, but think anyone with a brain can see a lot of troubleshooting ahead for this company..
if posted in wrong thread then apoologies
if posted in wrong thread then apoologies
Last edited by take-off; 13th October 2006 at 18:10. Reason: spotted airbus thread further down ..opps
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From: NY
Buy Boeing
Buy Boeing Fly Safely 
And
this money belongs to the long suffering British Taxpayers !!!
And
"Amsterdam, 13 October 2006 – EADS today acquired from BAE Systems its 20 percent stake in Airbus for € 2.75 billion. This value was determined by an independent expert during the put option process which was launched by BAE Systems in June 2006. EADS paid in cash from the existing resources of the Group. EADS is therefore now the sole owner of Airbus."
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From: 17 Cherry Tree Lane
Airline choices:
On one hand buy airplanes from the French.
On the other buy airplanes from the Americans.
DUH! How tough is it? Airlines worldwide are going through an education process right now. You just can't trust the French.
On one hand buy airplanes from the French.
On the other buy airplanes from the Americans.
DUH! How tough is it? Airlines worldwide are going through an education process right now. You just can't trust the French.
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From: fairly close to the colonial capitol
I wonder to what extent Airbus could have limited the damage from all this by simply communicating effectively with its customers, rather than leaving them entirely in the dark over what's been going on.
Some of the issues facing the A380 are at least understandable. The way the company appears to deal, or indeed fail to deal, with its customers is not.
Anyway, I for one hope Airbus can dig itself out of this hole.
Some of the issues facing the A380 are at least understandable. The way the company appears to deal, or indeed fail to deal, with its customers is not.
Anyway, I for one hope Airbus can dig itself out of this hole.
secretive. This leaves them in a position of often having to deny rumours until the facts come to light and then they are forced to 'admit'. 
A more forthcoming approach would be refreshing.Takeoff, I would hope UK jobs will remain - your government gave up at least 1/2 billion pounds for Airbus, did they not ? That must count for something.
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From: USA
German torture chambers put Airbus on the rack
Airbus' German Workers Threaten Indus Action - Report
Associated Press Newswires 10/15/2006
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BERLIN (AP)--Employees at Airbus in Germany will stage strikes if the aircraft manufacturer imposes any "unilateral cuts," their chief representative was quoted as saying Sunday.
Airbus is preparing a restructuring drive amid fallout from a new delay to the flagship A380 superjumbo. German officials have pushed for anticipated cost and job cuts to be shared fairly among Airbus' European sites.
"If there are unilateral cuts even at a single plant, we will open the torture chambers in solidarity at all the German facilities - in other words, strike," chief employee representative Ruediger Luetjen was quoted as telling the weekly magazine Focus in a preview of a report to be published Monday.
During a visit Thursday to the Airbus plant in Hamburg, its largest in Germany, new Airbus Chief Executive Louis Gallois sought to reassure employees, stressing no decision on any job cuts had yet been made.
However, he added, "this doesn't mean we will not have to make tough decisions."
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From: Stuck in the middle...
That, mate would involve some logic. This is now what the French and Germans think of the Brits and they don't give une/ein hoot about the British taxpayer.
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From: California
My two cents, Airbus should have not rush the 380 out then they would not have this problem. Not to bash on airbus that much but really; almost a two year delay, they must have really screwed up over there. Also I don't think it is all wiring problems and yes I am aware of the people quiting and firing.
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From: Canada
Singapore Airlines could cancel A380 order
Singapore Air could cancel Airbus order-report
Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:58 AM ET
PARIS, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Singapore Airlines could cancel an order for nine Airbus A380 superjumbos if there are excessive delays to its delivery, French newspapers reported on Wednesday.
"If the deliveries are too far away and take place at a moment during which we do not need them, we could indeed cancel them," said Bey Soo Khiang, senior executive vice president of the airline, was quoted as saying in La Tribune.
Airbus, the aircraft maker controlled by aerospace group EADS has not given Singapore Airlines a precise schedule for all the deliveries, La Tribune said.
A Singapore Airlines spokesman told Reuters: "The comment quoted in the French media refers only to the option that exists in the Purchase Agreement to cancel deliveries that are delayed. There has been no decision to exercise any cancellation rights under the Agreement. We therefore can't rule any options in or out at this time, which is the position we have maintained since the delay was announced."
Airbus could not be reached for comment.
The order for nine A380s comes on top of a firm order of 10 aircraft signed last year by the airline, the world second largest by market capitalisation, La Tribune noted.
Airbus has revealed a string of internal problems which have led it to delay the first deliveries of its superjumbo A380 aircraft.
Singapore Airlines said on Tuesday it had spent $360 million on interior design for its new aircraft including first-class seats that are nearly 1 metre (40 inches) wide.
Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:58 AM ET
PARIS, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Singapore Airlines could cancel an order for nine Airbus A380 superjumbos if there are excessive delays to its delivery, French newspapers reported on Wednesday.
"If the deliveries are too far away and take place at a moment during which we do not need them, we could indeed cancel them," said Bey Soo Khiang, senior executive vice president of the airline, was quoted as saying in La Tribune.
Airbus, the aircraft maker controlled by aerospace group EADS has not given Singapore Airlines a precise schedule for all the deliveries, La Tribune said.
A Singapore Airlines spokesman told Reuters: "The comment quoted in the French media refers only to the option that exists in the Purchase Agreement to cancel deliveries that are delayed. There has been no decision to exercise any cancellation rights under the Agreement. We therefore can't rule any options in or out at this time, which is the position we have maintained since the delay was announced."
Airbus could not be reached for comment.
The order for nine A380s comes on top of a firm order of 10 aircraft signed last year by the airline, the world second largest by market capitalisation, La Tribune noted.
Airbus has revealed a string of internal problems which have led it to delay the first deliveries of its superjumbo A380 aircraft.
Singapore Airlines said on Tuesday it had spent $360 million on interior design for its new aircraft including first-class seats that are nearly 1 metre (40 inches) wide.
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From: Dublin, Ireland
NB - this possibility refers only to the nine recently ordered, NOT the ten originally ordered.
What interests me most is what will happen to the A350XWB order, if Airbus keeps delaying it. I guess they have A330s to bridge the time until delivery, but even still, it doesn't do to upset them on two consecutive major orders.
What interests me most is what will happen to the A350XWB order, if Airbus keeps delaying it. I guess they have A330s to bridge the time until delivery, but even still, it doesn't do to upset them on two consecutive major orders.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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Emirates have sent in a team of auditors to confirm what possibility there is of any further slippage. I presume the other customers won´t be far behind...
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If you think that T5 at Heathrow has been built without a whole group of BAA-employed engineers and construction professionals seeing that every step of what the construction contractors are doing is on plan and going right ...... think again !
So where have SQ's (and the other customers') teams been over the last years ?