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Old 28th Jun 2006, 10:44
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Smoking Airline

A Germen business man wants to run a smoking airline.

Is there not something in the EU directives that outlawed smoking to start with? I can imagine that wealthy Japanese travellers may pay for this but surely the popularity of smoking in Europe is declining? (not having a go at smokers at all, so don`t start)!!!!


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5121786.stm
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 12:43
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I am particularly struck by the website copy:
The only thing there's left to do for the classic SMINTAIR passenger is, to just sit back and relax. SMINTAIR's highly trained staff will be glad to service you.


There's also
Non-smokers will find the cabin air more refreshing than on any other flight with any other airline, as SMINTAIR adds fresh outside air to the conditioning system!
Given the choice of a non-smoking "conventional" flight, or a flight surrounded by smokers but with a little less recirculated air, I know which I'd choose, and it ain't these guys...
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Post Smintair new startup SMOKERS airline!

just saw the announcment on CNBC !

1 route DUS-NRT
2 747's
startup 26 th march 2007

I doubt if this will work

some interesting quotes from their website ( www.smintair.com)

"Ladies and Gentlemen, dear Guests,

Before I would like to share my next to 50 years of experience as an airline passenger with you, I'd like to take the opportunity to clear one of the biggest lies floating around everywhere in the World:
"Second Hand Smoke (SHS, a.k.a. ETS, Environmental Tobacco Smoke) damages your health".
The WHO (World Health Orgaisation) confirms in all of it's studies concerning the subject, that ETS has not even a statistcally relevant effect on the non-smoker's health! If you want to go deeper into the subject, without prejudice, please refer to following link: http://www.antibrains.com/shs.html. "


"Allowing our guests to smoke is one of the freedoms we are happily prepared to grant. Non-smokers will find the cabin air more refreshing than on any other flight with any other airline, as SMINTAIR adds fresh outside air to the conditioning system! This is more expensive, as it burns more fuel, but it is seen as an additional service to our guests.

As the World's first smoker's airline, SMINTAIR is entering many uncovered niches in aviation, designed to give the traveller maximum pleasure out of their flight experience. SMINTAIR spends more than three times the amount usually invested on passenger's nourishment. Signature recipes created by internationally renowned chefs will make each meal a feast. Charming and beautiful flight attendants in uniforms designed by famous couturiers are there to take the very best care of you. Every two years, a new designer will be elected to keep the uniform design á la mode. SMINTAIR is currently in motion to aquire sponsors offering luxurious merchandise. Everything from caviar to clothes and smoker's utensils to jewellery will be offered for free consumption or at special duty free prices during our flights. Main sponsors will also be able to host events aboard our aircraft, displaying their latest fashion or merchandise, thus taking SMINTAIR in-flight entertainment and service to new levels. "


"We are looking for:

- 4 Accountable Managers
- 4 Accountable Manager Assistants

- 12 Pilots
- 12 Co-Pilots

- 1 Assistant Of The Board

- 1 Controller
- 1 Controller Assistant

- 12 Pursers
- 120 Flight Attendants

- 8 Ground Crew

Accountable Managers will be employed as soon as financing is completed. Interviews with all other staff will begin when the flight license is granted by the LBA (German regulatory body for aviation). Relocation packages will be made available.
DISCLAIMER: Allergics against tabacco smoke or militant Anti-Smokers are asked to not apply."
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 21:19
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So, no recirc fans to change and pressurisation leaks will be easy to find again!!
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"Allergics against tabacco"

so the market is well understood then
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 21:56
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So, no recirc fans to change and pressurisation leaks will be easy to find again!!
On the negative side though, just think of all those sticky nicotine covered components that will have to be changed.
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 22:11
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Yep...this'll really work. Where can I invest my retirement savings ?

If the proposed airline with the topless FA's didn't work in the USA, this smoker thing is freakin' DOOMED.
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Will the cabin crew contracts include any interesting clauses I wonder?
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Is the "Governor" out of prison?
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 22:59
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Anyone who starts an airline to provide a niche this small is certifiable. This has to be a 'spam', website and all. Don't forget that 'SMINT' is the name of a breath freshner.

Here is the publically held data of the person who registered the domaim Smintair.co and is it's owner:
egistration Service Provided By: Beenanza, LLC

Domain name: smintair


Registrant Contact:
SMINTAIR LIMITED
Alexander Schoppmann ([email protected])
+1.2081799385
Fax: none
95 Wilton Road, Suite 3
London, SW1V 1BZ
GB

Administrative Contact:
SMINTAIR LIMITED
Alexander Schoppmann ([email protected])
+1.2081799385
Fax: none
95 Wilton Road, Suite 3
London, SW1V 1BZ
GB

Technical Contact:
CityHost
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+1.8772664678
Fax: +1.5084625802
PO Box 10162
Zephyr Cove, NV 89448
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns1.cityhost.com
ns2.cityhost.com

Creation date: 15 Sep 2005 15:37:33
Expiration date: 15 Sep 2006 15:37:33

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Old 7th Jul 2006, 23:10
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This has got to be a joke, just read the 'investors' section on the website.
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Old 7th Jul 2006, 23:22
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Well personally I hope it does work. I'm an ex-smoker but I still would like to see this work. Smoking is still legal, for the moment at least, no matter what the anti-smoking/health and safety nazis would have you believe. Some people still enjoy it. If you don't smoke, don't fly or work with with them but don't try to close them down just because you don't enjoy the same things they do.

It's another airline offering jobs to pilots. Wish them luck for God's sake and get on with your life.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 00:04
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The idea itself is not bad. There are smokers out there that won't last long without a drag. (I recall this crazy lady on the news who rather take the insane interest charges on her credit card than pay the new tax on tobaco). However, the way they disputed the effects of Second Hand Smoking made them look like idiots. If the goal is to attract employees and investors, I think they should of used a better arguement. Personally, that statement alone would be enough for me to question the creditbility of the organizer. At least say you are doing this to target the hardcore smokers market. While I don't understand how exactly the use of fresh air in the cabin increase fuel consumption, would there be enough passenagers who are willing to pay an increased ticket price?
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 00:15
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Ironic they have chosen a name normally associated with fresh breath that will now be associated in the air with yuk breath

Perhaps Smint mints will be v unhappy with this choice/sue
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Devil Wind-up Alert

I think a timely reminder is necessary for this topic :-

As these are anonymous forums the origins of the contributions may be opposite to what may be apparent. In fact the press may use it, or the unscrupulous, to elicit certain reactions.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 07:13
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If you were an investor, would you be prepared to part with millions to a man who cannot even spell correctly.
Anyone trying to attract this sort of business should at least have a presentable website.
Spoof methinks.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 10:22
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Originally Posted by slam_dunk
- 12 Pilots
- 12 Co-Pilots

- 12 Pursers
- 120 Flight Attendants
Why 120 Flight Attendants and only 12 pilots???? What are they going to do with all the flight attendants? 12 pilots = 3 crews maybe? That would then mean 40 flight attendants each flight?. I don't know, i'm not a flight planner, but it does seem like some strange quotes and figures.

What ever happened to the governor with his tristars or whatever he was trying to buy? I remember around 2002 him creating a lot of hassle for the moderators here.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 13:15
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"We are looking for:

- 4 Accountable Managers
- 4 Accountable Manager Assistants

- 12 Pilots
- 12 Co-Pilots

- 1 Assistant Of The Board

- 1 Controller
- 1 Controller Assistant

- 12 Pursers
- 120 Flight Attendants

- 8 Ground Crew
is that because the last lot died of lung cancer?
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 13:34
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Spoof. Gotta be. Whoever heard of accountable managers.
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Old 8th Jul 2006, 14:15
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
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Administrative Contact:
SMINTAIR LIMITED
Alexander Schoppmann ([email protected])
+1.2081799385
Fax: none
95 Wilton Road, Suite 3
London, SW1V 1BZ
GB

interestingly this company operates from the same address
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