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Old 12th Sep 2006, 22:18
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LS seem to be making NCL work really well for themselves at the moment. I hope it continues!

KRK seems to be working out quite well for LS - just looking on their low fare finder indicates that some flights are full and there seems to be strong bookings throughout the winter period. I think this will go year round and we may even see a slight capacity increase on this route for summer - perhaps a 3rd weekly flight?

I'd like to see LS possibly pick up other new routes.

RIX would probably also work with two flights per week, similiar to KRK to appeal to the weekend market but it is a little far.

LGW is prime for a loco, BA are reducing frequency, much to the annoyance of friends of myne who use the service a lot. I have a vague recollection of some deal between NCL and BA to not allow competitors on this route. Does anyone have anymore info on this?

I'd love LS to replace SAS on CPH but not sure if they would because of landing fees - the market is definitely there though!
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 12:54
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Originally Posted by mmeteesside
It'll be either STN-NCL-YHM-NCL-STN or STN-YHM-NCL-YHM-STN and probably the first one
How do you make this pay ?, are these positioning flights or with 'a proportion' of fare paying pax on the NCL-STN & back? Either way it does not make too much sense for 'loco ops.' & then you have the issue of a greater probability of inherrent delays due to the nature of such a service
An earlier posting on this forum suggested a second carrier may operate to YYZ ?, very little can be more efficient, reliable & cost effective than say a YYZ based operation, but then again Air Transat were comfortable with one weekly service.
Either way I see this service as becoming a nightmare to operate for GSM
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 13:59
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From GSM Canada web site the flight operates;

YHM ETD 2015 Saturday
NCL ETA 0815 Sunday
ETD 0910ish (don't publish these times)
STN ETA 1000
ETD 1200
NCL ETA 1250ish
ETD 1340
YHM ETA 1640
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Well at least that makes sense - a YHM 'based' operation. But what is this service really ... another STN service with a drop off at NCL in an attempt to maintain a max load factor over the pond, or is it a more formal split load effort? The question has to be asked... what 'Southerner' in their right mind would fly to Toronto via YHM & NCL unless offered a seriously highly discounted fare as oposed to BA, AC direct services & others?.
It is all very well offering low fares, but when the operation is outside the traditional 8 week holiday period, one can find serious discounts on scheduled flights in any event.
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 17:04
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Seen loads of new Easy adverts on bus stops around the area for Newcastle - Berlin!
Bit of a waste of money since it seems to be dropped this winter!
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 17:58
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toronto next summer

How much capacity are we loosing for Toronto next summer are we gaining?

How many seats are on the A310 ?

So far next year we have

GSM with 189 seats (split with STN)
TCX with 233 seats ?
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 18:09
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Flybe E195 @NCL

Just to let you know that Flybe are planning to use there new E195 on the last southampton from 1st Jan 2007
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 19:13
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First EMB-195 just departed NCL on a crew training sortie.
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Old 14th Sep 2006, 02:19
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Originally Posted by nclairportfan
LS seem to be making NCL work really well for themselves at the moment. I hope it continues!
KRK seems to be working out quite well for LS - just looking on their low fare finder indicates that some flights are full and there seems to be strong bookings throughout the winter period. I think this will go year round and we may even see a slight capacity increase on this route for summer - perhaps a 3rd weekly flight?
I'd like to see LS possibly pick up other new routes.
RIX would probably also work with two flights per week, similiar to KRK to appeal to the weekend market but it is a little far.
LGW is prime for a loco, BA are reducing frequency, much to the annoyance of friends of myne who use the service a lot. I have a vague recollection of some deal between NCL and BA to not allow competitors on this route. Does anyone have anymore info on this?
I'd love LS to replace SAS on CPH but not sure if they would because of landing fees - the market is definitely there though!
I'll be honest NCL fan I can't see any of those destinations coming off. What I have been informed however is if the Chambery goes okay this winter then come next we will see saltzburg, which has to be good news.
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Old 15th Sep 2006, 17:31
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I hesitate to make comment on the unfortunate developments at DVT but the loss of the NEWQUAY route, which seemed to be doing ok should open the way for AirSouthwest to either NCL or DVT.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 18:49
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Bad news about baby pulling out of mme.
This may also affect NCL next year.

If jet2 open a base at mme it will mean that ncl will suffer and keep to an 2 aircraft base for next summer, instead of 3 or 4 aircraft.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 18:50
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It's in tonights paper that newcastle airport mangers and MME managers together with one north east are out in dubai talking to world airlines about starting services to the north east.

Lets hope we get something out of this
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 19:14
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Jet2 wont open a base at MME in my opinion due to its proximity to the two other bases. 'W' flights into MME with aircraft based at LBA and NCL to the popular Spanish destinations would be prudent.
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 20:54
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Originally Posted by HH6702
It's in tonights paper that newcastle airport mangers and MME managers together with one north east are out in dubai talking to world airlines about starting services to the north east.
Lets hope we get something out of this
Sounds like the annual Routes confrence
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 21:38
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Thomas Cook 757s to Canada are set up with a 187 seat config. I don't think you'd actually be able to get a 235-seater airbourne at NCL with fuel to get to Toronto...
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 23:23
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Originally Posted by mbcxharm
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I don't think you'd actually be able to get a 235-seater airbourne at NCL with fuel to get to Toronto...
I don't think too many of 235 would actually survive such conditions on a trip to Toronto
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Old 16th Sep 2006, 23:41
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Originally Posted by HH6702
It's in tonights paper that newcastle airport mangers and MME managers together with one north east are out in dubai talking to world airlines about starting services to the north east.
Lets hope we get something out of this
The delegates will certainly get something out of this...
Many ways of looking at this other than the obvious 'corporate beano'. It has seemed fairly obvious to me for some time that there will in all likelihood be a service from the N.E. to the Gulf within a few years.
The variable as I see it is simply whether it be on an IT basis to service the demand for new holiday destintions for the punters, or whether it be as part of a larger marketing strategy of Emirates, Gulf Air or whoever.
Presumably it would have been politically incorrect with One NE representing the region as a whole including 'Durham' to have ignored the region's second airport. However from recent events I would have assumed that the only stregnth that MME currently have to offer is plenty of spare apron space.
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Old 17th Sep 2006, 09:11
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Any signs/suggestions/rumours of possible competition on NCL-ABZ or does T3 have the route all sewn up.

Could competition grow the route, or have T3 captured the market.

You could always fly up to ABZ to fly the CPH route!!
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Old 17th Sep 2006, 09:57
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Always thought BE would have stepped in on NCL-ABZ market!

Anyone know why AJY has been diverted? Seems that AJets flights are dogged by problems and delays!!
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Old 17th Sep 2006, 11:29
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Routes

Originally Posted by airhumberside
Sounds like the annual Routes confrence
Spot on. Every freeloadin,sunlovin,hard drinkin, expense account wieldin man from the industry who can justify a week out of the office is at Routes in Dubai I'm sure its 100\% all business and no fun at all You couldn't get a first/club class seat out there for love nor money as they've all been taken by in house freebies!
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