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How do you operate one & a half 757's, I thought we there were to be two, with two flight crews, two handing charges, twice as much to go wrong
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Found this on another forum and thought you might all be interested!
EUROPEAN FLIGHTS - SCHEDULED
The latest CAA stats for August show:
BRU - down by 16% to 3500 pax but not surprising as SN have dropped one flight per day. Still better than other UK regional airports.
CPH - up by 13% to 2750.
NCE - down by 6% to 7483 pax. Can't believe EZY may drop this for winter.
CDG - down by 9% to 15516.
SXF - down by 34% to 4994.
DUS - up by 8% to 1481.
HAJ - up by 2% to 3919.
ORK - 3918 pax but new route so no comparison to last year.
DUB - up by 20% to 13852.
BGY - down by 54% to 4668 mainly due to FR cutting frequency.
PSA - 3193 pax but new route so no comparison to last year.
CIA - down by 13% to 6604.
AMS - up by 44% to 33216 mainly due to Jet2 starting on the route.
FAO - 5686 Scheduled pax carried. No comparison.
BCN - up 1% to 7703.
MAH - 2269 scheduled pax. No comparison.
BGO - 2901 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
TRF - 4441 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
GVA - down 20% to 6434. Reduced frequency.
PRG - down 19% to 6635.
BUD - down 64% to 2487. Reduced frequency on route.
DOMESTIC FLIGHTS - SCHEDULED
LGW - down 10% to 17379.
LHR - down 13% to 33665.
LCY - 884 pax. No comparison data but a big drop!
STN - down 20% to 22131.
ABZ - up 63% to 2399.
BFS - up 26% to 19349.
BHX - up 4& to 1670.
BRS - down by 14% 19034.
EXT - up 24% to 5814.
INV - 263 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
IOM - down 15% to 676.
SOU - up 13% to 10196
EUROPEAN FLIGHTS - SCHEDULED
The latest CAA stats for August show:
BRU - down by 16% to 3500 pax but not surprising as SN have dropped one flight per day. Still better than other UK regional airports.
CPH - up by 13% to 2750.
NCE - down by 6% to 7483 pax. Can't believe EZY may drop this for winter.
CDG - down by 9% to 15516.
SXF - down by 34% to 4994.
DUS - up by 8% to 1481.
HAJ - up by 2% to 3919.
ORK - 3918 pax but new route so no comparison to last year.
DUB - up by 20% to 13852.
BGY - down by 54% to 4668 mainly due to FR cutting frequency.
PSA - 3193 pax but new route so no comparison to last year.
CIA - down by 13% to 6604.
AMS - up by 44% to 33216 mainly due to Jet2 starting on the route.
FAO - 5686 Scheduled pax carried. No comparison.
BCN - up 1% to 7703.
MAH - 2269 scheduled pax. No comparison.
BGO - 2901 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
TRF - 4441 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
GVA - down 20% to 6434. Reduced frequency.
PRG - down 19% to 6635.
BUD - down 64% to 2487. Reduced frequency on route.
DOMESTIC FLIGHTS - SCHEDULED
LGW - down 10% to 17379.
LHR - down 13% to 33665.
LCY - 884 pax. No comparison data but a big drop!
STN - down 20% to 22131.
ABZ - up 63% to 2399.
BFS - up 26% to 19349.
BHX - up 4& to 1670.
BRS - down by 14% 19034.
EXT - up 24% to 5814.
INV - 263 scheduled pax. No comparison data.
IOM - down 15% to 676.
SOU - up 13% to 10196
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nclairportfan pax figures
The terror alert in August will have a marked effect on the pax nos, especially the London routes with numerous cancellations. Easyjet cancellations were at there height in August and they will also be reflected in the figures. So its not in all cases a true like for like comparrison.
I understand the total passenger numbers for August through NCL were up by 6%. Not bad considering the circumstances.
By the way the Easyjet press ad stating they are operating a full service is in tonights Evening Chronicle again!!! so it must be true.
I understand the total passenger numbers for August through NCL were up by 6%. Not bad considering the circumstances.
By the way the Easyjet press ad stating they are operating a full service is in tonights Evening Chronicle again!!! so it must be true.
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Considering the cancellations during August, the figures are not too bad. The interesting ones for me are the huge increase in the market to AMS which nearly beats LHR for the first time and the 18% increase in the "now gone" CPN route.....a route to be taken up again by some airline surely.
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The sham performance that EZY have put on this season, and the heavy press attention they are starting to recieve from it suggests to me that the best thing they could do is move out of the airport. I honestly believe that Flybe, Jet2, Ryanair and Thomsonfly could more than fill the void on their routes. An interesting statistic out of the CAA stats? The only international airline that has suffered a drop in travelling passengers, besides FR and SN on the reduced frequency BGY and BRU routes, is easyJet. BFS aside every single route that they fly has been subject to a drop in pax numbers. (The PMI figures aren't listed btw.)
EZY are the single reason the airport's expansion has stalled. Airlines are cautious to dip their toes into an airport that has an established airline flying all the typical routes. Notice that Jet2 don't fly any of the 'typical' routes such as ALC, AGP, BCN, NCE, PRG. They are just filling the gaps around EZY.
If they did take these routes on, with substantial marketing / promotions, I think they would finish EZY off hands down, especially with the 'frequent fliers' to the Costas whose flights have probably been affected.
The best expansion NCL can hope for is Jet2 over the next few years taking on ALC (1p/d); LEI (2p/w); SXF (1p/d); BUD (4p/w); ACE (2p/w); LGW (2p/d); AGP (1p/d); NCE (1p/d); PMI (1p/d) VLC (4p/w); VCE (3p/w) in addition to AMS, BGO, ORK, KRK, MAH, MJV, PSA, TFS. Although it doesn't look likely that FR will open up a base, connecting NCL to their current bases could be a real winner for them maybe to BRE 4p/w for HAM) CRL (1p/d for BRU); HHN (1 or 2p/d for FRA); GRO (1p/d for BCN); LTN (2p/d); MRS (3p/w); SNN (1p/d); NYO (1p/d for ARN). Alongside DUB, BGY and TRF, these routes could work for FR, especially considering their fares are normally good to excellent.
Past that, its probably Eastern and South Eastern European destinations, (ATH, WAW?) and the elusive JFK/EWR service, maybe DXB.
Thomsonfly haven't finished releasing their scheduled for next year, can anyone see anything new from NCL coming off? Nothing new on the charter front, would all charters have been confirmed by now.
EZY are the single reason the airport's expansion has stalled. Airlines are cautious to dip their toes into an airport that has an established airline flying all the typical routes. Notice that Jet2 don't fly any of the 'typical' routes such as ALC, AGP, BCN, NCE, PRG. They are just filling the gaps around EZY.
If they did take these routes on, with substantial marketing / promotions, I think they would finish EZY off hands down, especially with the 'frequent fliers' to the Costas whose flights have probably been affected.
The best expansion NCL can hope for is Jet2 over the next few years taking on ALC (1p/d); LEI (2p/w); SXF (1p/d); BUD (4p/w); ACE (2p/w); LGW (2p/d); AGP (1p/d); NCE (1p/d); PMI (1p/d) VLC (4p/w); VCE (3p/w) in addition to AMS, BGO, ORK, KRK, MAH, MJV, PSA, TFS. Although it doesn't look likely that FR will open up a base, connecting NCL to their current bases could be a real winner for them maybe to BRE 4p/w for HAM) CRL (1p/d for BRU); HHN (1 or 2p/d for FRA); GRO (1p/d for BCN); LTN (2p/d); MRS (3p/w); SNN (1p/d); NYO (1p/d for ARN). Alongside DUB, BGY and TRF, these routes could work for FR, especially considering their fares are normally good to excellent.
Past that, its probably Eastern and South Eastern European destinations, (ATH, WAW?) and the elusive JFK/EWR service, maybe DXB.
Thomsonfly haven't finished releasing their scheduled for next year, can anyone see anything new from NCL coming off? Nothing new on the charter front, would all charters have been confirmed by now.
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Totally agree with your posting. Jet2 seem to be building a decent reputation at NCL, and their TV advertising is alerting more potential NE pax to their services. I'm guessing that next summer will bring more routes, possibly becoming a 4 aircraft base. Easyjet brought low cost to NCL and stimulated people into travelling more on new routes, but their performance recently, particularly at NCL has tarnished their reputation. They have created a void, which can easily be filled by Jet2. I can see LS operating some of the routes you've mentioned, i.e LEI, SXF, VCE, ACE and VLC but I don't think that they would go head to head with Easy at the moment.
As for Ryanair, they have always said they would expand their NCL operation, but nothing has ever materialised. Their hubs would be perfect routes for NCL, indeed NCL has always been crying out for links into Germany, so I'm sure HHN would work. Another place NCL has always lacked in flights is France, Ryanair have a heavy presence there. Alternatively BE have expressed interest in international services from NCL. Is the possibility of TLS, MRS or other smaller French destinations on the horizon, now that we only have CDG flights?
A sched to ATH is probably a long way off, given the distance. WAW a possibility now Jet2 have started flying there.
There was rumour around that the new airbridge being built at NCL on Stand 9 was earmarked for an undisclosed international carrier? Is is possible to be EK with A330s to DXB?
Not even going to mention NYC service!!!
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You are totally right. The 2 flights to YYZ will equal the number of seats this year.
1 TCX 757 - 189 seats.
1 GSM 757 - approx 200 seats, shared with STN.
Both roughly equal the TS A310.
P.S It is not necessarily too late for charters to add new routes, some of the smaller tour ops put their summer stuff on sale quite late. However, without the addition of a 4th based aircraft from TOM, don't expect anything new apart from SKG and LXR as their aircraft programmes are now fully scheduled (i.e no space left in flying schedule for new flights/destinations to be added.).
Totally agree with your posting. Jet2 seem to be building a decent reputation at NCL, and their TV advertising is alerting more potential NE pax to their services. I'm guessing that next summer will bring more routes, possibly becoming a 4 aircraft base. Easyjet brought low cost to NCL and stimulated people into travelling more on new routes, but their performance recently, particularly at NCL has tarnished their reputation. They have created a void, which can easily be filled by Jet2. I can see LS operating some of the routes you've mentioned, i.e LEI, SXF, VCE, ACE and VLC but I don't think that they would go head to head with Easy at the moment.
As for Ryanair, they have always said they would expand their NCL operation, but nothing has ever materialised. Their hubs would be perfect routes for NCL, indeed NCL has always been crying out for links into Germany, so I'm sure HHN would work. Another place NCL has always lacked in flights is France, Ryanair have a heavy presence there. Alternatively BE have expressed interest in international services from NCL. Is the possibility of TLS, MRS or other smaller French destinations on the horizon, now that we only have CDG flights?
A sched to ATH is probably a long way off, given the distance. WAW a possibility now Jet2 have started flying there.
There was rumour around that the new airbridge being built at NCL on Stand 9 was earmarked for an undisclosed international carrier? Is is possible to be EK with A330s to DXB?
Not even going to mention NYC service!!!
10 DME ARC
You are totally right. The 2 flights to YYZ will equal the number of seats this year.
1 TCX 757 - 189 seats.
1 GSM 757 - approx 200 seats, shared with STN.
Both roughly equal the TS A310.
P.S It is not necessarily too late for charters to add new routes, some of the smaller tour ops put their summer stuff on sale quite late. However, without the addition of a 4th based aircraft from TOM, don't expect anything new apart from SKG and LXR as their aircraft programmes are now fully scheduled (i.e no space left in flying schedule for new flights/destinations to be added.).
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More detail of Jet 2 summer programme for 2007
KRAKOW will continue at 2 x wkly 26/3 - 28/10
MAHON builds to 2 x wkly in period 21/5 - 2/9
PISA builds to 4 x wkly in period 21/5 - 28/10
MURCIA operates at 5 x wkly 26/3 -21/10
NEW ROUTES
ALMERIA builds to 2 x wkly max. in period 21/5 - 28/10
MALAGA builds to 4 x wkly max. in period 26/3 - 21/10
PALMA builds to DAILY frequency in period 21/5 - 2/9
VALENCIA operates at 3 x wkly 14/5 - 28/10
KRAKOW will continue at 2 x wkly 26/3 - 28/10
MAHON builds to 2 x wkly in period 21/5 - 2/9
PISA builds to 4 x wkly in period 21/5 - 28/10
MURCIA operates at 5 x wkly 26/3 -21/10
NEW ROUTES
ALMERIA builds to 2 x wkly max. in period 21/5 - 28/10
MALAGA builds to 4 x wkly max. in period 26/3 - 21/10
PALMA builds to DAILY frequency in period 21/5 - 2/9
VALENCIA operates at 3 x wkly 14/5 - 28/10
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Can't imagine EZY will like this one very much. I am surprised, albeit pleasantly that LS decided to go for jugular and take EZY on on 'their' territory, as well as the high frequency TOM services to PMI and AGP. In reality though, if an airline was going to go head to head, these are the routes that would be expected, rather than BCN, PRG which have smaller markets.
I can't see EZY being too threatened by this however, although I do think that LS will do well. LS has a good reputation in the North now, whilst EZY is just digging it's own grave. I would expect LS to go daily on AGP, MJV, ORK,and possibly VLC by summer 08. I can't see EZY expanding to any destinations at all in the next few seasons, although I do think it'll take a lot more to drive them out.
Wonder if WW's decision down the road had anything to do with this expansion?
I can't see EZY being too threatened by this however, although I do think that LS will do well. LS has a good reputation in the North now, whilst EZY is just digging it's own grave. I would expect LS to go daily on AGP, MJV, ORK,and possibly VLC by summer 08. I can't see EZY expanding to any destinations at all in the next few seasons, although I do think it'll take a lot more to drive them out.
Wonder if WW's decision down the road had anything to do with this expansion?
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NCL & JET2 will employ an extra 200 staff to operate 4 aircraft from the start of summer 2007.
i belive a 757 will be based but this will operate TFS,ACE and maybe a few more new routes. Heard maybe cyprus also. These routes will be on sale within the next few weeks.
Great news today. Looks like that jet2 will continue to base at NCL and not start routes out of mme
i belive a 757 will be based but this will operate TFS,ACE and maybe a few more new routes. Heard maybe cyprus also. These routes will be on sale within the next few weeks.
Great news today. Looks like that jet2 will continue to base at NCL and not start routes out of mme